U.S Election

He is a bit of an idiot. I give you that....but so smart in other respects...the way he won those elections despite having 90pc of the press against him! Though he had a great ally: Hilary.

Tenez wrote:He is a bit of an idiot. I give you that....but so smart in other respects...the way he won those elections despite having 90pc of the press against him! Though he had a great ally: Hilary.

i dont think the way he won was genius at all,he was up against an opponent who was hated even by many democrats because of bernie sanders,she linked herself too closely with obama so it seemed like it would be another 4 years of obama,she was everything many hate about politicians linked to wall street etc..then there was what the fbi did just a week before the actual election,the democatic party seemed to have moved from their usual stance of being the working mans party and she still got more votes
trump lost every debate,i dont believe the majority of people voted for him based on his actual political policies,most people who voted for him were the same type of people who vote for brexit,they were just fed up of not being heard and forgotton, then theres the evidence of russian hacking involvement

trump next please ... 
2016 has taken the best and left us with the worst I.E trump...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/30/charlie-sheen-tweets-trump-next-please-debbie-reynolds-death/

but on a serious note...i think that trump is too much of a loose cannon and just has to rant and rave on twitter...could end up seeing his head being blown off like JFK

its already started...that orange buffoon hasnt even been sworn in yet and he is already backtracking on what he promised
trumps great wall of chili con carne to be funded by the taxpayer but he insists that mexico will pay back the $25 billion it will cost to build it.not sure if that includes the $750 million per annum that it will cost just to maintain it 
not a smart business man after all cause buying something upfront and then expecting someone else to pay it back is how the market collapsed in 2008
not surprising coming from a man who lost $1 billion in the casino business and pays no taxes 
just further proof of what utterly stupid morons voted for this man...lets scrap healthcare instead of improving it and rather build a wall instead 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/taxpayers-face-funding-donald-trumps-9573293

Trump Rocks!!!

Mexico will pay after the wall is built, with half price drugs for americans.

trumps ego bruised as intelligence agencies prove russian hacking 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/06/opinions/intelligence-report-putin-helped-trump-win-ghitis/

Veejay wrote:trumps ego bruised as intelligence agencies prove russian hacking 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/06/opinions/intelligence-report-putin-helped-trump-win-ghitis/

Prove what? That Saddam had WMDs?

They are untrustable.

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:trumps ego bruised as intelligence agencies prove russian hacking 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/06/opinions/intelligence-report-putin-helped-trump-win-ghitis/

Prove what? That Saddam had WMDs?

They are untrustable.

sadam did have weapons but got rid of them so that u.n sanctions against iraq would be lifted and that he would be free to trade 
he wasnt prepared to trade in $ but euros instead,the ruling class didnt like that so they decided to send the troops in anyway
thats why the french werent in on the coup 
i didnt expect you to agree with the u,s intelligence agencies..but it doesnt really matter if you dont,it wont change what they are claiming

Oh dear......you still believe the neocons conspiracion.

No wonder we have guys like Bush in power...and a huge mess in teh middle east.

Again I am not saying Trump will be any better but that doesn't take away anything from this dreadful past.

lets hypothetically assume that the u.s intelligence agencies are correct
instead of blaming the russians (who committed the hacking crime) ,trump blames the democrates 
that to me speaks volumes,and is the reason why i believe that there was hacking involved to help trump win

Veejay wrote:lets hypothetically assume that the u.s intelligence agencies are correct
instead of blaming the russians (who committed the hacking crime) ,trump blames the democrates 
that to me speaks volumes,and is the reason why i believe that there was hacking involved to help trump win

What speaks volume to me is that some are ready to blame everybody else but the very reason why Clinton lost....it was the content of those emails....not her lack of security dilligence.

It's the fact she was exposed to supporting ISIS. But you, like most media, don't want to see that, do you?

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:lets hypothetically assume that the u.s intelligence agencies are correct
instead of blaming the russians (who committed the hacking crime) ,trump blames the democrates 
that to me speaks volumes,and is the reason why i believe that there was hacking involved to help trump win

What speaks volume to me is that some are ready to blame everybody else but the very reason why Clinton lost....it was the content of those emails....not her lack of security dilligence.

It's the fact she was exposed to supporting ISIS. But you, like most media, don't want to see that, do you?

you keep ignoring this

again youre  missing the point

i posted this a few days ago...

state of florida wants recount,voters believe that clinton won the state 

"[size=14]say the state’s official election results were off because of hacking, malfunctioning voting machines and other problems."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/12/05/florida-voters-sue-recount/95021946/[/size]

yes we are all ware of the content of those emails but pionting the finger solely at clinton and the democratic party when every single u.s administration has been behind similar activities is just hypocritical-they are all criminals and involved in criminal activity,selling weapons to terroists,instigating wars for profit etc
your argument is pointless cause people still voted for obama and bush for a second term in spite what they can be accused of

Veejay wrote:yes we are all ware of the content of those emails but pionting the finger solely at clinton and the democratic party when every single u.s administration has been behind similar activities is just hypocritical-they are all criminals and involved in criminal activity,selling weapons to terroists,instigating wars for profit etc
your argument is pointless cause people still voted for obama and bush for a second term in spite what they can be accused of

Again, it does not excuse it. Bush and Clinton are the same to me. I don;t care whether they are democrats or Reps, cause at teh end of the day, it;s the lobbies above them who rul. I totally understand why people wanted a change...even if for the worse.

When a service provider rips me off, I quit and change for another one even if the one I move to is worse, by principle I do not stay with gas or mobile companies who cunningly rip me off....whereas you seem to enjoy being ripped off and you give them the whip for more slashes. We are very different.

I tell you again. The real racists are not those who you think.

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:yes we are all ware of the content of those emails but pionting the finger solely at clinton and the democratic party when every single u.s administration has been behind similar activities is just hypocritical-they are all criminals and involved in criminal activity,selling weapons to terroists,instigating wars for profit etc
your argument is pointless cause people still voted for obama and bush for a second term in spite what they can be accused of

Again, it does not excuse it. Bush and Clinton are the same to me. I don;t care whether they are democrats or Reps, cause at teh end of the day, it;s the lobbies above them who rul. I totally understand why people wanted a change...even if for the worse.

When a service provider rips me off, I quit and change for another one even if the one I move to is worse, by principle I do not stay with gas or mobile companies who cunningly rip me off....whereas you seem to enjoy being ripped off and you give them the whip for more slashes. We are very different.

I tell you again. The real racists are not those who you think.

im not excusing it either,im just pointing out what you have highlighted too.trust me,youll be adding trump to that list too
im also not talking about racism here,im talking about the russian hacking
i dont believe that the content of what was exposed in those leaked emails had a massive impact on the way voters voted cause as i pointed out,people still voted for bush for a second term
had that information been made public without the fbi investigating clinton  because of  it,not that big a deal would have been made out of it. the fact that we all know this information and that clinton was cleared of all incriminating activity,not once but twice exposes the corruption within the government.i would love to know what secretary john kerry has been up..probably not much different if you ask me 
i do believe that the hacking is somehow linked to voter fraud and hacking voting machines 
if youre going to hack to try and help trump win,why stop there when you can hack voting machines too..?
i could be mistaken but i recall reading that florida wasnt the only state that complained about voting machines and irregularities 
at the end of the day,the reason why trump wont publicly accept russian hacking involvement is because his ego is too big and he simply cannot accept or fathom that he may not have won legitimately 
and thats really the initial point i was trying to make

really powerful speech by meryl streep at the golden globes



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV8tsnRFUZw

so meryl streep grabs trump by the pu**y and trump takes to twitter to rant...
i have never seen anyone with a bigger ego,that is that insecure and could be that easily bruised
he falls straight into it every single time and has to have the last say every time..this guy reminds me of someone over on Bleacher Report called Tim Ruffin...one insult after another 
doesnt look like he will ever grow a thicker skin...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38556030

Veejay wrote:really powerful speech by meryl streep at the golden globes



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV8tsnRFUZw

Wow, I didn't realise she was such an egomaniac.

The only good thing she said was:

"What is Hollywood?"

Indeed, what is it?

A factory of liberalism and shedding of blood.

How dared she use the word "art"....


A bunch of overpaid, overinflated, vain, botoxed, freak looking clowns.

NITB wrote:

Veejay wrote:really powerful speech by meryl streep at the golden globes



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV8tsnRFUZw

Wow, I didn't realise she was such an egomaniac.

The only good thing she said was:

"What is Hollywood?"

Indeed, what is it?

A factory of liberalism and shedding of blood.

How dared she use the word "art"....


A bunch of overpaid, overinflated, vain, botoxed, freak looking clowns.

so if speaking out against making fun of disabled people by saying that that sends out the wrong message and is setting the wrong example,if that makes you an egomaniac...what would you call donald trumps behaviour?
go on NITB,give us a word to describe it...

de niro praises meryl streep

“What you said was great. It needed to be said, and you said it beautifully,” De Niro expressed. “I have so much respect for you that you did it while the world was celebrating your achievements. I share your sentiments about punks and bullies. Enough is enough.”


https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/robert-niro-praises-meryl-streep-044725845.html

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Who gives a flying duck

luvsports! wrote:Who gives a flying duck

i think that people who are born with disabilities do and i can understand why they are happy that someone stood up to defend them
i have a friend who is deaf and i didnt fully comprehend the impact such behaviour could have on someone until he told me how it made him feel to see trump make fun of marlee martin on the apprentice 
how would you have felt if you were publicly ridiculed, humiliated insulted and made fun of like that in front of the wolrds media just because you were born differently?
its such grade school juvenile behaviour... 
once again trump supporters criticise the person who stands up and says "thats disgraceful behaviour and sends out the wrong message that its ok to belittle and insult people who are different" instead of pointing the finger at the culprit
its entirely plausible for them to say.."you know what i voted for trump but in this instance i think that meryl streep is right" theres nothing wrong with saying that or admitting that he could just once be in the wrong
but no trump can do no wrong
instead of saying.."you know what..that was wrong of me do to,i apologise",( show some class and compassion) he carries on with his juvenile behaviour on twitter  and insults the person who called him out on his wrong doing
arrogant proud ego...
heres a real opportunity to change peoples opinion of him,do you know how much respect he could have earned by just apologising ??
plus meryls speech would have backfired in her face cause it would have shown that he can take the higher road,admit that he was wrong and graciously say "im sorry"
but every single time he proves that the perception many people have of him is 100% correct

i know that you have issues with hollywood but this has nothing to do with where its coming from,it doesnt matter if someone from hollywood or someone from a township in south africa said it..its not about where its coming from but rather the message itself 
would this be the kind of message you would be ok with to teach your kids? that its ok to mock disabled people?
is that really the kind if society you would want to live in or have your kids grow up in?

Veejay wrote:that orange buffoon bites every time.....
he fell straight into it....
doesnt take much to wind him up and dent his ego 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/26/president-obama-says-he-would-have-beaten-trump-if-i-had-run-again/?utm_term=.5c7d41719ca5

This post says more about you than him.  Unreal you can't see that.  Even more disturbing that you still believe anything the Mainstream media tells you.

Daniel wrote:

Veejay wrote:that orange buffoon bites every time.....
he fell straight into it....
doesnt take much to wind him up and dent his ego 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/26/president-obama-says-he-would-have-beaten-trump-if-i-had-run-again/?utm_term=.5c7d41719ca5

This post says more about you than him.  Unreal you can't see that.  Even more disturbing that you still believe anything the Mainstream media tells you.

what exactly does it say about me?
i dont believe everything i read in the media,i just comment on on what i read
theres a big difference between actually believing something and discussing what you read.you do realise that its possible to discuss what you read without believing whether its true or not right?
but for the sake of the argument,are we to believe that the media conjures up everything that donald trump tweets?

totally agree with this point of view...
fed up with this trend of constantly placing the blame everywhere else but the culprit

its not the russians fault that they got caught with wide spread state sponsored doping,the blame lies with those who are trying to hold them accountable for trying to cheat..

its not maria sharapovas fault that she failed a drugs test,the fault lies with those who didnt do enough to make her aware that the drug was being banned

its not donald trumps fault that he mocked a disabled journalist,the fault lies with meryl streep for trying to hold him accountable for his disgraceful behaviour ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtskv_LJ6c&t=193s

Veejay wrote:

luvsports! wrote:Who gives a flying duck

i think that people who are born with disabilities do and i can understand why they are happy that someone stood up to defend them
i have a friend who is deaf and i didnt fully comprehend the impact such behaviour could have on someone until he told me how it made him feel to see trump make fun of marlee martin on the apprentice 
how would you have felt if you were publicly ridiculed, humiliated insulted and made fun of like that in front of the wolrds media just because you were born differently?
its such grade school juvenile behaviour... 
once again trump supporters criticise the person who stands up and says "thats disgraceful behaviour and sends out the wrong message that its ok to belittle and insult people who are different" instead of pointing the finger at the culprit
its entirely plausible for them to say.."you know what i voted for trump but in this instance i think that meryl streep is right" theres nothing wrong with saying that or admitting that he could just once be in the wrong
but no trump can do no wrong
instead of saying.."you know what..that was wrong of me do to,i apologise",( show some class and compassion) he carries on with his juvenile behaviour on twitter  and insults the person who called him out on his wrong doing
arrogant proud ego...
heres a real opportunity to change peoples opinion of him,do you know how much respect he could have earned by just apologising ??
plus meryls speech would have backfired in her face cause it would have shown that he can take the higher road,admit that he was wrong and graciously say "im sorry"
but every single time he proves that the perception many people have of him is 100% correct

i know that you have issues with hollywood but this has nothing to do with where its coming from,it doesnt matter if someone from hollywood or someone from a township in south africa said it..its not about where its coming from but rather the message itself 
would this be the kind of message you would be ok with to teach your kids? that its ok to mock disabled people?
is that really the kind if society you would want to live in or have your kids grow up in?

What Trump did was bad I just feel celebs virtue signal all the time. 
My comment was directed at de niro's comment. I don't care about that.

i have to agree with that luvsports
many celebs will do and say anything to try and remain relevant,they will use any situation as a scape goat to try and promote themselves 
but i think that meryls heart was in the right place
she didnt have to say anything and rather just make the moment about all herself,but instead chose to stand up for someone cause it didnt seem like anyone else was going to

anyone trumps first press conference??
CNN = fake news for running the story about the russian bribing trump because they have video footage of him in very compromising circumstances
the report on channel 4 news leads me to believe that there must be some truth in it cause they exposed how the kremin have done similar things to other politicians that ended their careers 
but this also in my opinion confirms what i always suspected,that trumps campaign were linked to the hacking
its ironic that trump calls CNN fake news when fake news is what he used to catapult him into the public eye as a politician 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-intelligence-report-explainer.html?_r=0

:O don't let my boring name get out!
Call me Luvsports!

donald trump just cant seem to avoid scandal...

"donald trump denies that he hired russians hookers for golden shower party"

these are the kind of headlines youre making days before your inauguration ??
well if he is denying it then it must be true 
i always had a feeling that he would be the type who likes to be humiliated and peed on...must be the reason why he is always so orange 

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-denies-that-he-hired-russian-hookers-for-g-1791049695

Imagine if we had emails from him asking the Emirates to finance ISIS? Would that be enough for you to repudiate him? It would for me.

Tenez wrote:Imagine if we had emails from him asking the Emirates to finance ISIS? Would that be enough for you to repudiate him? It would for me.

i dont have to imagine it tenez,it will most likely be the reality in a few months time
you really think that weapon and arms  companies are going to stop selling weapons,or that the u.s or whoever the u.s is getting to fund isis is just going to stop financing isis under the trump administration?
you think all of that is just going to stop once  trump gets inaugurated?

i really like this program...these women often make some really points 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0FRhiz3g8

heres what people are tweeting about donald trump and the golden shower gate scandal 
sorry some of them are just too good not to post

http://perezhilton.com/2017-01-11-donald-trump-golden-shower-gate-twitter-reacts#.WHpFoIXXK70


some more trumps urine/golden shower gate tweets in this article..really worth having a look at
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/what-is-watersportsgate_uk_5875e90de4b033e31daaed5b


this has to be my favourite trump headline leading up top his inauguration




http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/golden-showers-rain-on-trumps-victory-parade-in-a-pee-for-all-scandal/articleshow/56481275.cms

every day theres a new trump twitter saga
the most recent trump twitter attack went to former civil right activist and icon john lewis

https://www.ft.com/content/697c0d7a-da66-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

Ive gotta say I find it really hard to believe that Russia and putin don't have dirt on trump and aren't blackmailing him
trump hints at ending sanctions Obama placed on Russia because of the hacking which helped trump win the election

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-sanctions-could-be-dropped-if-helpful-vladimir-putin-kremlin-us-a7527021.html

and trump to hold summit with putin within weeks

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/15/donald-trump-to-hold-summit-with-vladimir-putin-within-weeks

something is really not right here,trump has his head so far up putins backside he has brown rings around his ankles

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-kremlin-employee-of-the-month.html?_r=0

vladimir putin: our prostitutes are the best in the word but i doubt donald trump would fall for them

oh my god it just keeps getting better 

how does he know? did they pee on him too 

how does he know donald wont fall for prostitutes? he marries women  who are only with him because of his net worth,isnt that a form of prostitution?

apparently fresh accusations of sexual molestation against trump are about to come out in a news conference in los angeles that will be held soon
just 2 days before he gets inaugurated 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/17/russia-calls-british-author-donald-trump-dossier-runaway-swindler/

full list of u.s politicians boycotting trumps inauguration 
around 45 members of the house of representatives have claimed that they wont be attending 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/full-list-politicians-boycotting-donald-9640791

so i was wrong,its not new sexual groping allegations but rather a former apprentice contestant suing trump for defamation...
hhhmmm not sure how successful she will be against the new president
usually would be a massive scandal but seeing everything trump has been accused of in the last week,this seems rather minute 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/17/apprentice-summer-zervos-donald-trump-lawsuit

Veejay wrote:if he does then it would be a very stupid thing to say.....he could end up like JFK

Considering JFK was Oswald, I think you need to stay off the pot. Moon Landing happened too.  Who'd have thunk it.

The only threat to Trump's life is from Muslims following their crazy prophet - and the Left - like that daft jerk who tried to grab an officer's gun.  The tolerant left again.

Demanded recounts, rioted, threatened assassinations, attacked his daughter on a plane, coordinated media hit job.  And now the Left still can;t accept he won.  HE WON.  That's the end of it.

And he's right, his policies would have stopped 9/11. Years of crappy, weak, leftist nonsense has made the US a melting pot of uncontrolled migration - and Islam is being protected everywhere from the truth of what it is. He wouldn't have let those freaks into the country in the first place.

It's too late now, thanks to the Dems, there are tons of them on US soil.  Luckily, the population have guns in most states and will blow the mothers away.

Veejay wrote:so i was wrong,its not new sexual groping allegations but rather a former apprentice contestant suing trump for defamation...
hhhmmm not sure how successful she will be against the new president
usually would be a massive scandal but seeing everything trump has been accused of in the last week,this seems rather minute 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/17/apprentice-summer-zervos-donald-trump-lawsuit

it would not have made the news if it wasn't for Trump. The press has been scrapping the barrel  trying to interview anyone who had something bad to say about him. It's getting a bit ridiculous and tedious.

Daniel wrote:

Veejay wrote:if he does then it would be a very stupid thing to say.....he could end up like JFK

Considering JFK was Oswald, I think you need to stay off the pot. Moon Landing happened too.  Who'd have thunk it.

The only threat to Trump's life is from Muslims following their crazy prophet - and the Left - like that daft jerk who tried to grab an officer's gun.  The tolerant left again.

Demanded recounts, rioted, threatened assassinations, attacked his daughter on a plane, coordinated media hit job.  And now the Left still can;t accept he won.  HE WON.  That's the end of it.

And he's right, his policies would have stopped 9/11. Years of crappy, weak, leftist nonsense has made the US a melting pot of uncontrolled migration - and Islam is being protected everywhere from the truth of what it is. He wouldn't have let those freaks into the country in the first place.

It's too late now, thanks to the Dems, there are tons of them on US soil.  Luckily, the population have guns in most states and will blow the mothers away.

why are you so intolerant towards islam daniel?
i mean im not a fan either but i can distinguish between those who use religion to justify their own agenda and those who practise a religion for the many good teachings it teaches

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:so i was wrong,its not new sexual groping allegations but rather a former apprentice contestant suing trump for defamation...
hhhmmm not sure how successful she will be against the new president
usually would be a massive scandal but seeing everything trump has been accused of in the last week,this seems rather minute 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/17/apprentice-summer-zervos-donald-trump-lawsuit

it would not have made the news if it wasn't for Trump. The press has been scrapping the barrel  trying to interview anyone who had something bad to say about him. It's getting a bit ridiculous and tedious.  

if it was another president elect then it would certainly have made the news
the media seriously dont need to scrap the barrel here tenez...theres sooooooooo much to chose from 
every day its something else 
i am actually really looking forward to the inauguration ,its shaping up to be the most unattended,low rated,under performed one possibly ever 
hopefully the weather will be ok..wouldnt want the event to be showered out  

Something for you, Vee!
(Sorry nothing sleazy!)

It looks like Putin and Trump are going to hold their first meeting in...Belgrade!

http://www.kurir.rs/vesti/politika/senzacionalno-tramp-i-putin-stizu-u-beograd-prvi-susret-predsednika-u-srbiji-citajte-u-kuriru-clanak-2641251

everyone ready for the inauguration?

got my rotten eggs out...

heres who is performing tomorrow...havent heard of any of them before 

theyve left michael flatley out...he was only asked once everyone else refused

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38678102

Not much quality there from celebs. This russian ass licker will fall quick.

well that was rather boring...where were the protesters...shame on them!!
that has to be the worst attendance in he history of any inauguration...obama had millions turning up
the showers started once trump began his inauguration speech ... oh the irony!!!

Veejay wrote:well that was rather boring...where were the protesters...shame on them!!
the showers started once trump began his inauguration speech ... oh the irony!!!

I just checked the update on this thread to see whether you'd come up with something positive about the man.....

I'll check again soon.

Watching the inauguration, for an hour a few speakers only about Jesus, God, and religious stuff, one would think this is some Ranch in Texas full of god fearing people.

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:well that was rather boring...where were the protesters...shame on them!!
the showers started once trump began his inauguration speech ... oh the irony!!!

I just checked the update on this thread to see whether you'd come up with something positive about the man.....

I'll check again soon.

well at least melania trump will ensure that we get to hear another 4 years of michelle obamas speeches...
thats the only positive thing i can say...sorry tenez..not my fault

Jahu wrote:Watching the inauguration, for an hour a few speakers only about Jesus, God, and religious stuff, one would think this is some Ranch in Texas full of god fearing people.

these muppets who are commentating are about as nauseating as those muppets sue barker and andrew castle
watching someone fly away on a helicopter "these are truly extraordinary moments in the history of democracy" 
what utter bullshit!!
they are talking out their anus 
this election was everything but democratic