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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by Tenez on Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:15 pm

Problem with Thiem is that he is very much like Muster...a one dimensional baseliner....Like Nadal but unfortunately with a SHBH whihc makes him a tiny bit less good....meaning much less successful.

Like Muster, Thiem will not do anything good on grass.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:08 pm

Thiem just repeating last 2 years, total burn-out on Clay and useless for the rest of the season, or maybe he done the math that he is no good outside clay and give it all on clay and coast on grass/hc and collect enough points to go to WTF, good enough.

Needs Norman to work his magic on him Stan style, channel that power and variety.

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Post by summerblues on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:18 am

Tenez wrote:
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Tenez wrote:I think Djoko could be  a good bet for Wimbledon. It looks like he is hitting form again.
Was he playing well?  He is supposed to win these kinds of matches even on poor form.  Remember, last year he was playing no good and still won Eastbourne.  Everything I have seen from him so far this year is telling me he is very far from being competitive.
Don't know. I did not watch his match.....but from what I saw at the FO, he is improving seriously.
I was not that impressed by his FO performances.  I did not see too much of him, but from what I saw he looked no better than this time last year - maybe even worse.  He looked better than earlier this season - but he could not have possibly continued to play so poorly for too long.

I do not expect him to go deep at Wimbledon.  Still, he would be a tough early round draw if say Federer had to play him in Rd3.

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Post by summerblues on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:27 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Thiem being the usual Thiem. One good tournament followed by a very poor one.
Thiem is a clay courter.  He will find it hard to do well on grass.

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Post by summerblues on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 am

Tenez wrote:Problem with Thiem is that he is very much like Muster...a one dimensional baseliner...
But I forgive Muster.  He was forced to become a clay court specialist after his injury - his knee was no longer good enough to allow him to become truly versatile.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by Tenez on Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:30 pm

Kyrgios Edmund and Dimi Djoko today at Queens! Should be fun!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:32 pm

summerblues wrote:
Tenez wrote:Problem with Thiem is that he is very much like Muster...a one dimensional baseliner...
But I forgive Muster.  He was forced to become a clay court specialist after his injury - his knee was no longer good enough to allow him to become truly versatile.

Do you believe that? His knee was good enough to rally senselessly at nausea. There was nothing wrong with his knee. he was known to be a rallying beast....and for that you need pretty good knees.


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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:48 pm

Yeah, I don't recall Muster reverting to the beast he was because of that. I might be wrong, I eliminated most memory of his hideous game from my memory.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:24 pm

Watching Halle and Queens stereo again...

Queens looks slower...or maybe that's because of the boring baseline tennis Edmund and Kyrgios are playing.

Fed and Paire producing some very nice play.

I can't believe how sharp Fed is.
Paiting lines with his FH like he's never had a day's break...and we are talking grass tennis here.

Even returning with topshpin BH almost casually...he really is loving grass.

Coming across as super relaxed.

I suppose you have to be if you are playing his game.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:32 pm

And while I was typing all this Paire managed to break Fed. Yikes

Kyrgios in the other match manages to lose both his serves at the start of the TB.
That is unacceptable for a server of his calibre.

What a dull match....Dimi-Nole should be more interesting.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:38 pm

Paire 4-0 up :O

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:40 pm

Fed getting a bagel  Laugh

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:41 pm

luvsports! wrote:Paire 4-0 up :O

Horror!
Fed was a bit too relaxed...

And then went straight into - nobody bagels ME on grass mode. Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:45 pm

what is it with tennis players that they have to go through the bleached blond hair phase....

Fed, Thiem, Paire...they all look(ed) disgusting!


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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:49 pm

Funny how Fed went walkies and then just turned his game on to 5th gear.

Just so Paire knows who the boss is. Winking

It would be pretty impressive if he could claw this set back.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm

First set dropped on grass since his loss at Stuttgart last year, i believe.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:00 pm

I must say I find DBH (even as nice as Paire's) a real eyesore on grass.

They should ban the monstrosity.


Here comes the handgrenade Big Grin

I genuinely believe DBH should go into disabled tennis!

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by Tenez on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:04 pm

But at least on grass they are typically least efficient.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:06 pm

Tenez wrote:But at least on grass they are typically least efficient.

It doesn't matter.
It's a freak shot full stop.

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:07 pm

Fed letting his friend get a set.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Is he playing better this set? First set he;s lost to Paire, who he usually beats comfortably.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:12 pm

luvsports! wrote:Is he playing better this set? First set he;s lost to Paire, who he usually beats comfortably.
I didn't see the first set.
He played well the beginning of second but was quite relaxed, Paire took the momentum for a few games and ran away with the set.
Fed did wake up to win three games and now finding it difficult to break Paire. Let's not forget this is not clay....

I don't think he is tanking at all, looking quite livid with himself...a bit like when he was losing to Delpo. He wants to go to Wimbledon as no1.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:16 pm

Break now Feds, please!

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:24 pm

Paire's improved his FH a lot...

Paire saved the BP with a great serve, after that Fed netted a FH.

Things really happen quickly on grass.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:27 pm

I FEAR THE WORST!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:28 pm

luvsports! wrote:I FEAR THE WORST!

I never fear the worst when I watch Fed. love

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:32 pm

The Man is amazing.

After netting a slice BH off Paire's BH which caught the net for 15:15, Fed pulls off in the 6th gear and leaves Paire in the dust!


A-WE-SO-ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noone has ever and will ever play the game like him!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:33 pm

Now is the time to break!

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:37 pm

Match points saved Sad

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:41 pm

luvsports! wrote:Match points saved Sad
He just gifted his mini break to Paire. Grr

Who was mega lucky with net cords all match. Grr Grr Grr

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:42 pm

2 points away.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:43 pm

COME ON ROGERRRRR!!!!

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:44 pm

Match point Sad

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm

PHEWWWWW

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by barrystar on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm

Clutch or what

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:48 pm

Awesome win by Fed!!!!! love love love

Oh ye of little faith!!!!!

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:48 pm

Now this was some unnecessary heart attack hahahah good win

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by Tenez on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:50 pm

Oh did he get away from that one? After Paire's lucky net point in that TB I thought that was the end of Fed.

I'd be interested to see the stats of Fed's serve. Most likely lower pace and less accurate after that first set.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:54 pm

Tenez wrote:Oh did he get away from that one? After Paire's lucky net point in that TB I thought that was the end of Fed.

I'd be interested to see the stats of Fed's serve. Most likely lower pace and less accurate after that first set.
I loved how he went for his shots like a lion every time when he was down or in a sticky place.
Phenomenal belief and it paid off!

Paire served well.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm


That's return points won, you muppet!

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:23 pm

No, that’s 1st serve return points won.

Cool

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:23 pm

Great minds & all that.

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:33 pm

luvsports! wrote:

That's return points won, you muppet!

He won, stop playing the Gynecologist with deep analysis here, ooops need to slide it inside again to double check  Laugh

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:36 pm

Dimi getting battered by Djoko. He is useless at times.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by bogbrush on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:41 pm

at times?

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:44 pm

Ye, quick loss, Dimi only on HC seems to click for now.

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:53 pm

bogbrush wrote:at times?

Well he won a masters and WTF last year. Admittedly not playing the big guns but still.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:54 pm

Jahu wrote:
luvsports! wrote:

That's return points won, you muppet!

He won, stop playing the Gynecologist with deep analysis here, ooops need to slide it inside again to double check  Laugh

Jahu for OTF President!

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Re: Gerry Webber Open Halle & Queens

Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:00 pm

I'll be anything as far as Fed wins next 2 GS  Big Grin

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