ATP Masters 1000: Rome

That wasn't really very difficult. Faced no break points (only the 3rd time Djokovic has failed to get one in a Masters final - the other 2 being in Cincinnati against Federer).

He was in control at every stage and might have won more clearly.

Roland Garros not looking quite as predictable.

summerblues wrote:

... wrote:Not my kind of star.

You were for years rooting for Nole, who are you to whine?

Anyway, let's be happy Nole lost today, we can worry about Zverev when he gets to 5+ slams.

Well, Nole's a much better player than Zverev, esp in his early years...and a character on top.
Brilliant defender...what is Zverev?

With that height and ability, his game is very plain.

summerblues wrote:

... wrote:It was interesting to watch Nole trying all sorts of things but nothing worked, plus the wind was a factor.

It was interesting and heartwarming to see him lose, not much beyond that was interesting about him today.

Maybe Jahu is right and you deep down still root for him, just are too cowardly to admit it.

Of course I wanted him to win today, give me one reason why I should cheer for a German born Russian who olays more boring than Nole.

At least I am proud to be a Serb, you don't even have the guts to say what your nationality is...

Slovakian?

Most impressive thing about Zverev today, and it does generally seem to be the case, is his cool head and ability to play big points well. Having said that, Novak was terrible today. Did anyone see that ridiculous drop shot attempt. I had to laugh.

Puts into perspective how good and consistent Federer has been over the years. Taking out 2013 when he was injury ravaged and THAT FO final against Rafa, the guy has always put up resistance in the big matches. Rarely do you see Federer get blown off court and I can't imagine that he would have gone down so meekly against Zverev, the way Djokovic did.

... wrote:you don't  even have the guts to say what your nationality is...

Huh?  As eman says I am originally from Slovakia.  What makes you think I have no guts to say it?

I do not mind if you root for Nole, just don't tip-toe around it.  Why be a hypocrite, rubbish Zverev's game and pretend that Nole's game is more exciting?  It seems better to admit that Nole's game is ugly but that you root for him anyway on account of him being a Serb.

bogbrush wrote:Roland Garros not looking quite as predictable.

Indeed.  Though I still think Rafa will be a strong favorite.  I initially thought Zverev might be his biggest challenge from among the youngsters but after Rafa demolished him, and then had more trouble with Thiem, I was starting to change my mind.

Now I am again not so sure.

Too many unforced errors by Novak, I'm pleased that someone from the 90s finally has a big title just wish it was Thiem. Still believe we won't see the best from Djokovic until US Open/WTF.

Jahu wrote:No worries, neither Djoko nor Nadal are winning RG  

I wish I had your optimism.  I could live with a Thiem vs Zverev final.

Good to see that fake Monaco tree huger and love sucker crushed by Zverev.

I mean Djoko parents still can't sit on the box with his wife, but hey who gives a toss, important the love guru Pepe shows them the way around holes .

We will have a new winner in RG!!!

Stan and Ninja btw playing Geneva.

summerblues wrote:

Jahu wrote:No worries, neither Djoko nor Nadal are winning RG  

I wish I had your optimism.  I could live with a Thiem vs Zverev final.

Yeah that would be a bonus, and since Stan has already won it, I don't mind any new face wining the RG.

AceofDeath wrote:Too many unforced errors by Novak, I'm pleased that someone from the 90s finally has a big title just wish it was Thiem. Still believe we won't see the best from Djokovic until US Open/WTF.

You ain't never gonna see it, it's the Death of an Ace {sic}

Also since I'm the only tennis expert left here, yes Zverev brings nothing new in style, neither does Korgi, Thiem for Fed fans brings a little Fed teen style, so in general nothing new around the tour, important is we see some new Tournament winners, less of a Murray and Djoko also seems good, so we should not judge playing style of youngsters, as far as they beat the old guard.

summerblues wrote:

... wrote:you don't  even have the guts to say what your nationality is...

Huh?  As eman says I am originally from Slovakia.  What makes you think I have no guts to say it?

Well, a few years ago, you avoided answering the question here, when I asked you if you were Bulgarian (during your fervent Dimi phase)...not that it matters.

summerblues wrote:

I do not mind if you root for Nole, just don't tip-toe around it.  Why be a hypocrite, rubbish Zverev's game and pretend that Nole's game is more exciting?  It seems better to admit that Nole's game is ugly but that you root for him anyway on account of him being a Serb.

Nole's game is more exciting.

Of course not very exciting but def more exciting than Murray's and Zverev's.

I enjoyed being a crazy Nole fan and everyone knew it.

Now I am not, but that doesn't mean that I need to revile the guy.

Don't be childish, SB.

Also the fact that Zverev and Thiem (rather than maybe Nishikori or Raonic or Dimitrov) seem to be the ones breaking through seems to further confirm that the Nishi etc generation is particularly weak.

If it was just that these days players do not fully mature until later, Nishi etc should have been stepping up and taking over.  The fact that it seems to be the guys younger than them shows they were just poor.

summerblues wrote:

... wrote:you don't  even have the guts to say what your nationality is...

Huh?  As eman says I am originally from Slovakia.  What makes you think I have no guts to say it?

I do not mind if you root for Nole, just don't tip-toe around it.  Why be a hypocrite, rubbish Zverev's game and pretend that Nole's game is more exciting?  It seems better to admit that Nole's game is ugly but that you root for him anyway on account of him being a Serb.

I'm no fan of Nole and generally I find his game monotonous, however, there is always something to be said about someone who is so good at something and that in itself can be a reason for viewing - whether you root for him or just hope he loses everytime. Additionally, he defends in a unique way, and some of his shots when on the stretch are the best I've ever seen. You can't rule him out of a point and with one shot he can turn the rally on it's head or even hit an outrageous winner from the tramlines whilst doing the splits. The Nole of 2011 WAS rather exciting in how bulletproof he was and with that steely determination.

Of course this Nole is a pale shadow.

Emanci, don't sugarcoat Nole, he sucks, he stole everything from Nadal, and ruined the tennis for a few years, no one cares for him, except his wife's lawyers and Bankers 

Btw, any Fed fan who ever supported Djoko against Nadal, did it just from the fear that Nadal would surpass Fed. He never will, so please no Love Djoko talk, he has a paid guru now for loveeeee 

Regarding RG and who might shake it up, Thiem can beat Nadal with his power hitting for sure but he can't beat Djokovic. Alternatively, Zverev with his greater patience and big serve can clearly beat Djokovic but his game plays to Nadals strengths.

I just hope the draw puts the right one with each. ofvthem.

Emancipator wrote:The Nole of 2011 WAS rather exciting

That is not how I see his game.  Obviously, he was extremely good at what he was doing - he would not win 12 slams if he had not been.  So to the extent one wants to watch somebody doing something - anything - at a very high level, one could perhaps call it exciting in that sense.  But I would never call his game exciting.  I actually do not particularly mind his game, I just find it too dull for the level of success he has had with it.

Anyway, now that he is losing we can hopefully both agree his game is not exciting - I because I never thought it was, you because you do not think the current version is

bogbrush wrote:Regarding RG and who might shake it up, Thiem can beat Nadal with his power hitting for sure but he can't beat Djokovic. Alternatively, Zverev with his greater patience and big serve can clearly beat Djokovic but his game plays to Nadals strengths.

I am not sure I agree. I still think that a well playing Zverev will have a better chance even against Rafa than Thiem will.

When I think how people like Petchey etc we're saying Djokovic was probably the best player of all time I felt like throwing up.

Give the guy old equipment and he wouldn't have ever won a Slam. He can't volley, has a laughable overhead, and would be lost without a racquet with a gigantic sweet spot. And that's without wondering where the incredible stamina suddenly emerged from a player who would routinely fade out when it got long.

Never liked him, had far more regard for what Nadal could do even though that's not saying much.

Jahu wrote:Btw, any Fed fan who ever supported Djoko against Nadal, did it just from the fear that Nadal would surpass Fed. He never will, so please no Love Djoko talk, he has a paid guru now for loveeeee 

That is sad but true...and funny!

Maaaan, they've all changed so much in the last 10 years!

Money helps I guess, bitch wife's too, then you pay a guru to fix everything while he sucks your money.

bogbrush wrote:When I think how people like Petchey etc we're saying Djokovic was probably the best player of all time I felt like throwing up.

I never heard this, have heard of of Fed as probably the best and best ever, but for Djoko only one OF the best.

... wrote:

summerblues wrote:

... wrote:It was interesting to watch Nole trying all sorts of things but nothing worked, plus the wind was a factor.

It was interesting and heartwarming to see him lose, not much beyond that was interesting about him today.

Maybe Jahu is right and you deep down still root for him, just are too cowardly to admit it.

Of course I wanted him to win today, give me one reason why I should cheer for a German born Russian who olays more boring than Nole.

At least I am proud to be a Serb, you don't  even have the guts to say what your nationality is...

It's an Easterners fight. That's how WW1 started!.

... wrote:

Veejay wrote:a little off topic here but what is roger and mirka federer doing at pippa middleton's wedding today?   
even tatler magazine on twitter seems baffled by it lol 
if any tennis player were to be invited i would have thought it would "sir" murray
i guess only wanted to invite royalty.... lol

I saw that!

I think Pippa likes tennis, I don't blame her.

her and her sister are tennis fans,you always see them in the royal box when murray is playing,so its surprising to see the federers at the wedding rather then the murrays
guess murrays  current slum and moodiness wouldnt have put a damper on their celebrations 

Jahu wrote:

bogbrush wrote:When I think how people like Petchey etc we're saying Djokovic was probably the best player of all time I felt like throwing up.

I never heard this, have heard of of Fed as probably the best and best ever, but for Djoko only one OF the best.

typical verbal diarrhea from petchy and sam smith

Veejay wrote:

Jahu wrote:

bogbrush wrote:When I think how people like Petchey etc we're saying Djokovic was probably the best player of all time I felt like throwing up.

I never heard this, have heard of of Fed as probably the best and best ever, but for Djoko only one OF the best.

typical verbal diarrhea from petchy and sam smith

Grinning Greg might have been party to it, it was that kind of scene.

Obviously Annabel wasn't there, she only has eyes for Fed

Veejay wrote:

... wrote:

Veejay wrote:a little off topic here but what is roger and mirka federer doing at pippa middleton's wedding today?   
even tatler magazine on twitter seems baffled by it lol 
if any tennis player were to be invited i would have thought it would "sir" murray
i guess only wanted to invite royalty.... lol

I saw that!

I think Pippa likes tennis, I don't blame her.

her and her sister are tennis fans,you always see them in the royal box when murray is playing,so its surprising to see the federers at the wedding rather then the murrays
guess murrays  current slum and moodiness wouldnt have put a damper on their celebrations 

That family are obviously intensely upwardly socially mobile - Hell, he's got two daughters married off to the future King and a multi-millionaire - so if there was to be a tennis invite was it going to be scruffy Andy or Regal Rog?

bogbrush wrote:

Veejay wrote:

Jahu wrote:

bogbrush wrote:When I think how people like Petchey etc we're saying Djokovic was probably the best player of all time I felt like throwing up.

I never heard this, have heard of of Fed as probably the best and best ever, but for Djoko only one OF the best.

typical verbal diarrhea from petchy and sam smith

Grinning Greg might have been party to it, it was that kind of scene.

Obviously Annabel wasn't there, she only has eyes for Fed

i know,its quite embarrassing how she continually drools over him,like some wet dream...
jahu thinks shes still do-able for her age.. 

so how does everyone rate zverev's chances at RG?
didnt see the match but i reckon djokovic must have felt the 2 matches yesterday in his legs today

bogbrush wrote:

Veejay wrote:

... wrote:

Veejay wrote:a little off topic here but what is roger and mirka federer doing at pippa middleton's wedding today?   
even tatler magazine on twitter seems baffled by it lol 
if any tennis player were to be invited i would have thought it would "sir" murray
i guess only wanted to invite royalty.... lol

I saw that!

I think Pippa likes tennis, I don't blame her.

her and her sister are tennis fans,you always see them in the royal box when murray is playing,so its surprising to see the federers at the wedding rather then the murrays
guess murrays  current slum and moodiness wouldnt have put a damper on their celebrations 

That family are obviously intensely upwardly socially mobile - Hell, he's got two daughters married off to the future King and a multi-millionaire - so if there was to be a tennis invite was it going to be scruffy Andy or Regal Rog?

thats why i said that they must have only wanted to invite royalty 
i like kate she comes across very genuine and authentic but the sister seems like a social climber

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Roland Garros not looking quite as predictable.

Indeed.  Though I still think Rafa will be a strong favorite.  I initially thought Zverev might be his biggest challenge from among the youngsters but after Rafa demolished him, and then had more trouble with Thiem, I was starting to change my mind.

Now I am again not so sure.

Yes though I still don;t think Zverev has it to beat Nadal on clay....and frankly I doubt Thiem can do it over 5...though Djoko could always beat Nadal..

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Regarding RG and who might shake it up, Thiem can beat Nadal with his power hitting for sure but he can't beat Djokovic. Alternatively, Zverev with his greater patience and big serve can clearly beat Djokovic but his game plays to Nadals strengths.

I am not sure I agree.  I still think that a well playing Zverev will have a better chance even against Rafa than Thiem will.

Both Thiem and Zverev stand too far back to bother Nadal. Djoko however can beat Nadal. Even playing crap in Madrid he made it close.

Veejay wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

Veejay wrote:

... wrote:

Veejay wrote:a little off topic here but what is roger and mirka federer doing at pippa middleton's wedding today?   
even tatler magazine on twitter seems baffled by it lol 
if any tennis player were to be invited i would have thought it would "sir" murray
i guess only wanted to invite royalty.... lol

I saw that!

I think Pippa likes tennis, I don't blame her.

her and her sister are tennis fans,you always see them in the royal box when murray is playing,so its surprising to see the federers at the wedding rather then the murrays
guess murrays  current slum and moodiness wouldnt have put a damper on their celebrations 

That family are obviously intensely upwardly socially mobile - Hell, he's got two daughters married off to the future King and a multi-millionaire - so if there was to be a tennis invite was it going to be scruffy Andy or Regal Rog?

thats why i said that they must have only wanted to invite royalty 
i like kate she comes across very genuine and authentic but the sister seems like a social climber

Be fair, she's worked hard to achieve fame in her own right.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FE-hkbwgGrY

..always fancied a bit of Royal butt 

pippas bum is over rated besides it was no where to be seen yesterday 

Veejay wrote:pippas bum is over rated besides it was no where to be seen yesterday 

It's ok, Vee.
We all know you like your bums on the XXL side

Veejay wrote:this is just too good not to share....the video is very weird but its nice to see serena shaking her booty
i have often wondered how the hell she manages to move an ass that big around the court



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxsmWxxouIM&feature=youtu.be

Thiem just beat Nadal, Tenez.  It happened just this week.

Daniel, have a day off buddy, this is the butts and bums thread 

... wrote:

Veejay wrote:pippas bum is over rated besides it was no where to be seen yesterday 

It's ok, Vee.
We all know you like your bums on the XXL side

Veejay wrote:this is just too good not to share....the video is very weird but its nice to see serena shaking her booty
i have often wondered how the hell she manages to move an ass that big around the court



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxsmWxxouIM&feature=youtu.be

you fell straight into it NITB 

Vee, were you accused here of being a Serena lover and stalker I think here?

The booty man? 

so zverev becomes the first kid born in the 90's who wins a master 1000
could this be the start or beginning signs of the next generation breaking through?

Well Thiem and Zverev are making some strides, but Grand Slams are totally different, also 5 setters, lets see how these young ones can take it.

Jahu wrote:Vee, were you accused here of being a Serena lover and stalker I think here?

The booty man? 

it seems my "crush" on serena and her "larger-then-life derrier" is keeping some people awake at night

hahaha, you so modest, at least Serena got fertilized properly.

Jahu wrote:hahaha, you so modest, at least Serena got fertilized properly.

fertilised but not tamed!!

What? How do you know? She still talking to you secretly? 

U bad boy...think we agreed long ago that skinny mommy boy can't tame her properly

yes she visits me in my dreams...whispering sweet nothings in my ear 
thats bound to give a few here some nightmares 

Don't choke on it boy, leave some for me 

Daniel wrote:Thiem just beat Nadal, Tenez.  It happened just this week.

Yes and I predicted it. But I still fancy Nadal to win in Paris v Thiem if they were to meet.