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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:38 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Seeing Med glisten in the sun temptingly, makes me want to catch a plane to Monte Carlo and dive into the blue NOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!

It is true isn't it. It's such a beautiful sea.

Yes, it certainly is.
There is something special about it.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:39 pm

Wow!

I just saw the score, Vesely won the first set 6:4!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:22 pm

And is a break up in the third! Go go go!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:23 pm

Just sat down to watch at last!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:38 pm

Nole hasn't got his footwork ready for clay yet.

That's all it is.

Though, it looks like he is actually tanking. Not that bothered at all.

These Czechs are all cheeky monkeys!
Vesely spread and flapped his arms in the middle of the point to distract Nole.

Lendl, Stepanek, Rosol all belong the same "school".

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:59 pm

Lendl was much better behaved than any other champs of his era actually.

I thought Djoko was tanking.....or very nervous.


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:06 pm

both Djoko and Vesely played gutless. The latter can be excused due to the circumstances.

Vesely is one player we noticed early here on OTF!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:10 pm

Tenez wrote:Lendl was much better behaved than any other champs of his era actually.

I thought Djoko was tanking.....or very nervous.


Good point. Still not an angel...

Regarding tanking, I am pretty sure he did.

I have an idea or two why.   Cool

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:25 pm

Tenez wrote:both Djoko and Vesely played gutless. The latter can be excused due to the circumstances.

Not really. Vesely has no excuse to be gutless with such a big serve. He's been playing like that for a whole now, actually.
But good on him to keep the nerve.
Some excellent dropshots, too.


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:27 pm

Vesely has been very disappointing for a good year and a half.
He played great to win his first title in Auckland '15 (age 21) and has done nothing since - couple of months off turning 23.
Not a fan of his tennis at all but happy he won or rather Djoko lost.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:36 pm

Tenez wrote:

Vesely is one player we noticed early here on OTF!

Pouille playing quite well, too.

Clay suits his style more than hard court, in fact.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:13 pm

Gorgeous order of play for tomorrow.

Now that Nole has strategically & generously left the stage, like in good old days - ABN! diva

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:10 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Lendl was much better behaved than any other champs of his era actually.

I thought Djoko was tanking.....or very nervous.


Good point. Still not an angel...

Regarding tanking, I am pretty sure he did.

I have an idea or two why.   Cool

Becker certainly wanted him to win...so if he was tanking, it was not something he shared.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:37 pm

Tenez wrote:
Becker certainly wanted him to win...so if he was tanking, it was not something he shared.
Well spotted.
Boris wants Nole to always win.

Nole needed & wanted rest. And a bit of fun.
Big battles await.

Plus he's made the rest of the draw & Federer happy.

Everyone's a winner. Winking

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:53 pm

Yes though I am not convinced he tanked. Clay is a strange surface and suddenly you can completely lose confidence on it.

Fed v Guga in 2004 was a perfect example.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:13 pm

Tenez wrote:Yes though I am not convinced he tanked. Clay is a strange surface and suddenly you can completely lose confidence on it.

Fed v Guga in 2004 was a perfect example.

He played too poorly not to have tanked.
It was as good a loss as he could get.

Playing both Rome and surprisingly Madrid.

He's had very tough last few months.

I only saw the 3rd set so can't say much more. His footwork was definitely not good.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:52 am

ALLEZ BENOOOOOIIIIIIIT!!!!!divalovetennisball

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:37 am

Tenez wrote:Yes though I am not convinced he tanked. Clay is a strange surface and suddenly you can completely lose confidence on it.

Fed v Guga in 2004 was a perfect example.

Tanked in the first match of an Masters tournament in the beginning of clay season? I don't think so. Maybe if it was Madrid or Rome and Djokovic has already won MC. Maybe then in the 3rd rnd or QF... not before.

Losing momentum is not something any player would want.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:46 am

Can't see the match but keeping an eye on the scoreline. Doing well Paire, the 2nd best player is definitely not the 2nd best.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:46 am

Benoit Paire: 

real weapons
real game
real tennis Bubbly


So good to watch.

Making Murray look out of place in every way.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:48 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Yes though I am not convinced he tanked. Clay is a strange surface and suddenly you can completely lose confidence on it.

Fed v Guga in 2004 was a perfect example.

Tanked in the first match of an Masters tournament in the beginning of clay season? I don't think so. Maybe if it was Madrid or Rome and Djokovic has already won MC. Maybe then in the 3rd rnd or QF... not before.

Losing momentum is not something any player would want.

He wasn't too bothered at all yesterday.
Vesely played nothing special was winning all long rallies.
That is a dead giveaway it was a tank.

Just a very well masqued one.

Nole is a pro in every way these days! Winking

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:50 am

ALLLEZ BENOIT ALLEEEEEEZ!!!!! diva

Show tennis "experts" what a great DBH is!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:55 am

Murray getting battered, like it!!!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:00 am

He wasn't too bothered at all yesterday.

nitb wrote:Vesely played nothing special was winning all long rallies.
That is a dead giveaway it was a tank.

Just a very well masqued one. 

Nole is a pro in every way these days! 

Okay, if that's what you want to believe. I would think it otherwise. 

Djokovic has won a ton of matches  playing nothing special and winning all long rallies. He tried that yesterday too, just that it didn't work.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:01 am

luvsports! wrote:Murray getting battered, like it!!!

Tell me about it. I really enjoy when Mr. A. Murray gets hammered by some great shots.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:11 am

Paire making Murray run like mad, love it!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:12 am

luvsports! wrote:Murray getting battered, like it!!!
With or without vinegar, Sir?

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:18 am

Madam, me no like vinegar. 
Just wrap that Scottish haddock in newspaper and send him packing.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:25 am

Choke?

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:28 am

Murray with a break... and Paire 4*-5 on server... Test of nerves.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:56 am

luvsports! wrote:Choke?

Not choke, panic mostly. The sight of the finish line makes a lot of players freeze and stop thinking clearly. Thats why Murray is #2, game wise there are 20 better than him.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:44 pm

Gutted for Paire.

The worst kind of a loss.
I hope he recovers from it.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:45 pm

Fed playing awesome.

Looking really fresh and strong.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:02 pm

Impeccable footwork from Federer.

He just took SABR to a new level: he actually tried to half-volley the return with the BH...

Didn't work but was crazy to see.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:44 pm

That is sabr though.
No3 in particular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYWle4HmzU8

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:53 pm

luvsports! wrote:That is sabr though.
No3 in particular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYWle4HmzU8
before I watched the clip, I had a feeling you meant that one! TB...very important!...and amazing timing!


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:09 am

I was watching a youtube clip with Djoko v Federer best points.....and then I remembered what McEnroe said to Brad Gilbert: "You should not be on the same court as me!". This is even more true between Djoko and Federer. Djoko is just a super Gilbert!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:12 am

Another gutless  performance going on by Raonic. 

Tenez,
 
Do you still see him doing any better? And by when?

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:19 am

Bagel alert!!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:25 am

I am not watching.....but yes I still see him do well if he stays injury free. I certainly don't think he will be a multi slam winners. But he can certainly win one or 2.

This defeat today is probably due to some injury. he has beaten Murray 3 times out of 7 so he can do it. Raonic not so long ago beat an inform Ferrer on clay....I think he has not been himself since that injury in Miami (IW?) final.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:04 pm

Nadal is on form again! he is going to be tough to beat on clay this year!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:11 pm

Stan did not play badly...but Nadal is everywhere.....like in the good old days....except that nowadays it does not impress as much as back then. We got used to it.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:17 pm

Stan is furious at the noisy restaurant crowd. I remember Fed losing his temper there a few years ago and I think this is why fed skipped it for a few years.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:19 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal is on form again! he is going to be tough to beat on clay this year!

With Nadal's records on clay, he was always going to be tough to beat on clay. He feels most comfortable on it.

But the match is not over.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by DECIMA on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:20 pm

Stan did not play badly ? lol Tenez
He can't hit the target at all, he'd probably miss the toilet even if he was peeing sitting down.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by DECIMA on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:22 pm

Murray played a great match against Raonic on clay, obviously it took a few matches for him to adjust (hence dodgy start this week), but I feel clay is now Murray's best surface. I think he will win the tournament, comfortably.
Nadal is playing ok, very solid first set but Stan can easily improve from that, anyway Nadal's best surface now is hard court, so good to see him competing well.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:37 pm

Stan played well at first. He made Nadal run a lot and then saw that nadal coudl easily do teh running...that and the crowd put Stan off. SO of course he went through a bad patch but only when he realised his shots were all coming back!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:42 pm

Murray Nadal shoudl be interesting!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:44 pm

wow...what a point from Fed!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by gallery play on Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:58 pm

The knee seems alright

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