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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by gallery play on Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:00 pm

Somehow Fed is not reading Tsonga's serve very well

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by gallery play on Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:12 pm

gallery play wrote:Somehow Fed is not reading Tsonga's serve very well
and surely Fed was going to break Tsonga's serve 2 times after i said that Doh

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:55 pm

Awesome match from Tsonga!

Fed was great, but the hand of God was with Humble Big Hearted Jo Applause 


It was meant to be. Winking

Some here will be in the know why. Thumbs Up

And now the real reason Nole lost....



He had to have a bit of rest, to open a restaurant, get nappies, pump his bike tyre..but most importantly watch today's match from the comfort of his home...farting, beltching, picking his nose if he felt like it...even yell without upsetting the "worthy" crowd and being told to be quiet...


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:05 pm

Shame for fed......but good on Tsonga. Personally....I will be with Murray tomorrow!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:33 am

3/1 for Murray to win the first set. I have not bet for years but that is tempting!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:03 am

noleisthebest wrote:

He had to have a bit of rest, to open a restaurant, get nappies, pump his bike tyre..but most importantly watch today's match from the comfort of his home...farting, beltching, picking his nose if he felt like it...even yell without upsetting the "worthy" crowd and being told to be quiet...


Check - mate. Quantum brain.  Cool


Bravo Nole! Bubbly

Looks like you have experience living with a real man!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:43 am

This tournament can only be saved if Tsonga wins.


ALLEEEEEZZZZZ JOOOOOO!!!!!  diva  GO GO GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!  tennisball

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:33 pm

...And once again 35s becomes the norm!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:58 pm

Murray tiring but ahead...5/2. I shoudl have put my money on that first set!.

Winning in 3 might be beyond him though.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:00 pm

They both know this is the final!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:04 pm

Tenez wrote:3/1 for Murray to win the first set. I have not bet for years but that is tempting!

Gutted!

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Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:30 pm

I've had the spinning class, sat in jacuzzi for half an hour, went shopping, walked home at a leasurely pace, had lunch...and these two have onlynstarted the third set!!!

Awfull tennis.

Nadal's doctor's deserves a payrise...

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:34 pm

Almost over for Murray..

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:36 pm

Double break down.. Murray playing nothing like the 1st set..

And Nadal pouncing on the chance, like he should.

I don't know what is Murray complaining to the umpire about..

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:44 pm

Commentators on tennistv are pathetic.

A: Has Nadal "upped his level" or has Murray dropped his?"

B: I think it's a bit of both.

This whole dumb phrase of "level" is an insult to intelligence.
I loathe that people get paid for ignorance with wich they "educate" the masses.

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Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:46 pm

I can see that Murray was keen to win.

Apparently he had the match in the bag...

What happened?

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:50 pm

Murray's returning is not as great as it's advertised.

And we sre talking about Nadal's serve here....which is all about muscle and nothing else.

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Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:54 pm

Tenez wrote:...And once again 35s becomes the norm!
Damian bravely gives Nadal time violation on the match point...

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by DECIMA on Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:09 pm

Very surprised and shocked !
I think a one off performance though

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by luvsports! on Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:23 pm

Surely you don't think monfils or tsonga can beat him DT?

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Post by DECIMA on Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:57 pm

I think Rafa heads into the match as favourite; but of course on their day Monfils and Tsonga can upset anyone so it won't be easy.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:08 pm

Monfils is actually an average player.

He only plays well when he counterpunches.

No guts or FH to attack.

I appreciate his flair and fun-loving, but he is a poor competitor.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:59 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Monfils is actually an average player.

He only plays well when he counterpunches.

No guts or FH to attack.

I appreciate his flair and fun-loving, but he is a poor competitor.

It took you a while to find out! Winking

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Post by ... on Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:54 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Monfils is actually an average player.
He only plays well when he counterpunches.
No guts or FH to attack.
I appreciate his flair and fun-loving, but he is a poor competitor.
It took you a while to find out! Winking

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:40 am

NADAL AVERAGING 31s!!!!

Another tournament Nadal will win outside the rules. The question remains: Can he win within the rules?
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Heads or tails?

The match began bizarrely when Murray won the coin toss, but umpire Damien Dumusois of France asked Nadal if he wanted to serve.

Nadal pointed out the umpire's error, but Murray graciously asked for it to be re-done, and he won that, too. This time he was asked his preference and elected to serve.

Murray was irked throughout by a lack of action from the umpire over Nadal continually breaking the 25-second rule between serves. The Spaniard was averaging 31 seconds, allowing him more time to recover.

The Scot's patience was further tested midway through the third set when Nadal delayed his serve by claiming he had something in his eye. At the next changeover, the umpire asked Nadal if he wanted more medical attention.

Murray felt Nadal was getting preferential treatment and, after dropping his serve, hit the ball towards the umpire's chair in frustration, prompting Dumusois to say "you have zero respect for what I do". Murray responded by telling the umpire he didn't know what he was talking about.

Dumusois eventually gave Nadal a time violation in the final game, but Murray felt it should have been given earlier in the contest.

Asked about his clash with the umpire, Murray told the press conference: "You can draw your own conclusions. I don't know how much bearing it all had on the outcome.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Daniel on Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:58 am

Shame Murray is so weak mentally. Nadal should never have won. His days of winning are coming to an end though - and the slams will also find him out. A bit annoying that the younger generation still aren't stepping up. Monfils has a chance against this Nadal, regardless.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:07 am

Interesting stat:

Federer won his 70th ATP tournament at his 100th ATP final.

If Nadal wins today it will be his 68th tournament in his 100th final.

So 70% v 68% coversion record!..at best!.


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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:18 am

Djoko is still at 70.05% but I am pretty sure this is going to drop considerably soon.

What puzzles me is how on earth winning 62 ATP tournaments (Djoko) can earn you the same than winning 88 tournaments (Federer) despite the later winning 6 more GS!!!!

I guess it is the Fed /Nadal effect contributing toe teh prize increase in that period...and it benefots mostly the more recent champions!

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:20 pm

Tenez wrote:Djoko is still at 70.05% but I am pretty sure this is going to drop considerably soon.

What puzzles me is how on earth winning 62 ATP tournaments (Djoko) can earn you the same than winning 88 tournaments (Federer) despite the later winning 6 more GS!!!!

I guess it is the Fed /Nadal effect contributing toe teh prize increase in that period...and it benefots mostly the more recent champions!

I am happy Nole's overtaken them both in earnings.
It's a small compensation for all the draw rigging etc he had to put up with.

If Federer spoke out against Nadal as much as against Nole, rather than always be "happy" for him, he may have won and earnt more.

Federer has got the glory, Nadal 14 slams of which he deserves none plus "all the love and popularity he brought to tennis" and Nole the most cash.

Looks fair to me.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:24 pm

Tenez wrote:NADAL AVERAGING 31s!!!!

Another tournament Nadal will win outside the rules. The question remains: Can he win within the rules?
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Heads or tails?

The match began bizarrely when Murray won the coin toss, but umpire Damien Dumusois of France asked Nadal if he wanted to serve.

Nadal pointed out the umpire's error, but Murray graciously asked for it to be re-done, and he won that, too. This time he was asked his preference and elected to serve.

Murray was irked throughout by a lack of action from the umpire over Nadal continually breaking the 25-second rule between serves. The Spaniard was averaging 31 seconds, allowing him more time to recover.

The Scot's patience was further tested midway through the third set when Nadal delayed his serve by claiming he had something in his eye. At the next changeover, the umpire asked Nadal if he wanted more medical attention.

Murray felt Nadal was getting preferential treatment and, after dropping his serve, hit the ball towards the umpire's chair in frustration, prompting Dumusois to say "you have zero respect for what I do". Murray responded by telling the umpire he didn't know what he was talking about.

Dumusois eventually gave Nadal a time violation in the final game, but Murray felt it should have been given earlier in the contest.

Asked about his clash with the umpire, Murray told the press conference: "You can draw your own conclusions. I don't know how much bearing it all had on the outcome.

I only saw the third set and it was very ugly.

This Monte Carlo will be the worst tournament in a long time.

Funnily, Murray had the same preferrential treatment from the umpire when he played Paire.

That aside, I have to again compliment you on your superb insight about time taken between the points, Tenez all those years ago. You were so right!

The violation if that rule brought Nadal all his trophies and it is clear as daylight why he struggled in the last two years now - the rule was simply being applied and he could not feed his muscles with oxygen he needed in 25 seconds.

As soon as he is again allowed it - Nadal looks invoncible and ultra physical, fresh and blasting away.

Amazing.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:28 pm

FedererKing wrote:Shame Murray is so weak mentally.  Nadal should never have won. His days of winning are coming to an end though - and the slams will also find him out. A bit annoying that the younger generation still aren't stepping up. Monfils has a chance against this Nadal, regardless.

I had a look at their head to head 11:2 fir Nadal..no way can Monfils do anything.

He has a tiny chance to win a set and that is if time between the ponts is being kept.

I don't think that will happen.

This tournament was decided in advance.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:30 pm

I am happy Murray barked at the gutless umpire.
Shame he didn't really hit him with the ball.

I wish all players were like that, and were like that in the past.

Federer and his "niceness" have a lot to answer for.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:15 pm

30mn for a 3/2 first set! The ATP is desperate to have Nadal back!

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:16 pm

Just started watching, is that Bernardes's voice I can hear?

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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:17 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
The violation of that rule brought Nadal all his trophies and it is clear as daylight why he struggled in the last two years now - the rule was simply being applied and he could not feed his muscles with oxygen he needed in 25 seconds.

As soon as he is again allowed it - Nadal looks invoncible and ultra physical, fresh and blasting away.

Amazing.
Yep...disgusting!

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:18 pm

Tenez wrote:30mn for a 3/2 first set! The ATP is desperate to have Nadal back!

Well, they share your opinion that Nadal is good for tennis.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:20 pm

Monfils can win this easily, just by keeping the ball in play.
As Nole once said, he doesn't need to play anything special...

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:36 pm

Wow, ATP have castrated Bernardes completely.

He was even scared to get off his chair and check the mark, it was Nadal who was "generous" and examined/wiped it.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:38 pm

It's amazing! The level of tennis is of the same level between Wilander and Clerc 1982! It's going backwards between those 2!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:40 pm

It's so obvious that the early time warning from Bernardes forces Nadal unto UEs....even DFauting on BP!

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:41 pm

Tenez wrote:It's amazing! The level of tennis is of the same level between Wilander and Clerc 1982! It's going backwards between those 2!
I know!

They'd make it more interesting if they staged a big table in the centre of the court and have an old fashioned arm-wrestle.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:41 pm

Tenez wrote:It's so obvious that the early time warning from Bernardes forces Nadal unto UEs....even DFauting on BP!
I didn't see that.
Did Bernardes give Nadal a warning?

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:43 pm

Monfils is not the smartest player, either.
He really doesn't need to go for the lines.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:50 pm

With Prince Albert and his wife sitting in their elite seat and appearing well entertained, this is looking so much like Roman arena.

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Post by ... on Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:52 pm

Can a miracle happen and Monfils transform from a boy into a man in this match?
Would be fantastic!

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Post by Daniel on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:01 pm

Monfils is done. His 1st serve has been the let down. Nadal fist pumped a double fault there - what a classy guy he is. Thumbs Up

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:49 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Monfils is not the smartest player, either.
He really doesn't need to go for the lines.

It's not as simple...if you don't go close to the lines, then you do the running!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:51 pm

FedererKing wrote:Monfils is done.  His 1st serve has been the let down.  Nadal fist pumped a double fault there - what a classy guy he is. Thumbs Up

They are both tired...but Nadal bluffs better.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:58 pm

The last 2 shots of that 11th game (serve from Nadal) were prrof he is tired too. But he doesn't show as much as Monfils!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Monte Carlo

Post by Daniel on Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:05 pm

Hang on.... he's not done. I turned it off!

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