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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:52 am

summerblues wrote:So no factors are "missed", it is just that whoever adopts this definition does not value those other factors.
Yes, but isn't this obvious ?

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Post by summerblues on Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:06 am

Kim Jong-Un wrote:
summerblues wrote:So no factors are "missed", it is just that whoever adopts this definition does not value those other factors.
Yes, but isn't this obvious ?
Is what not obvious?

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 06, 2015 12:01 pm

Tenez wrote:Djoko is another player "better" than Federer despite having a negative H2H. Sure conds helped Djoko but even on faster conds, it would still be a struggle for Federer. It is clear that with mouvement being so good, having a DHBH is a huge advantage.

Conds woudl have to be pretty fast to give Federer the advantage again. I mean faster than Dubai.

Federer, serves better (usually), volleys better, has a better FH, but all that is useless if Djoko can simply bombard his BH. until an UE comes along.

Nadal is pretty far behind Djoko now on slow hard....and I am pretty sure it's not going to be any closer on clay.Thta's why H2H only tell one side of the story...well they tell a good side, but it can hide a lot too. Same with the slam count.

What I like about the slam count however is that it shows, to some extend,  how much you were able to differentiate yourselves from your peers.

Federer says it cleary, he calls his generation, the Nalby, Hewit, Roddick, Safin.....not the Nadal, Murray, Djoko.

A month later Djoko proved me right by beating Nadal quite convincingly.

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