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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:41 pm

Tenez wrote:The crowd needs to help federer...I feel sorry for Cilic now.
I don't.

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:44 pm

FECK SAKE

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:45 pm

luvsports! wrote:FECK SAKE
Yep.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:46 pm

This is pitiful

Remind us all, Tenez, how this Federer is better than 2006 haha

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:51 pm

it's a combination of Fed being a half a step to slow and Cilic's pace making that a full step!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:52 pm

FedererKing wrote:This is pitiful

Remind us all Tenez, how this Federer is better than 2006 haha

Speak for yourself, please.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:52 pm

Yeah, you as well.

I suggest you go and look at 2006, because this Federer is a million miles away, and rightfully so, being 33.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:53 pm

The dynamics of this match is very similar to the one against Monfils.

Cilic beginning to crack ever so slightly.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:57 pm

Fed has never won b2b 5-setters. Here's to hope that will change...

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:57 pm

This is the worst I have EVER seen Fed's forehand. It's awful.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:00 pm

Cilic did not return that well in Toronto...

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:02 pm

Sems not.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:02 pm

This is the worst I've ever seen Federer...  especially given the draw.

He has very few chances left to win a Slam, and this was a golden chance.

Better now than 2006?  Please, pull your head from your fucking arse.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:03 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:Cilic did not return that well in Toronto...

yes he is playing amazing well. I think the windy conds are really affecting Federer.....whereas Cilic can hit through it.

As I said earlier fed is facing a Djoko with Safin's shots. In fact better shots than Safin.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:04 pm

FedererKing wrote:This is the worst I've ever seen Federer...  especially given the draw.

He has very few chances left to win a Slam, and this was a golden chance.

Better now than 2006?  Please, pull your head from your fucking arse.

Can you please control your language.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:04 pm

Oh come on.  Federer is playing so bad it's unbELIEVABLE.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:05 pm

Tenez wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:Cilic did not return that well in Toronto...

yes he is playing amazing well. I think the windy conds are really affecting Federer.....whereas Cilic can hit through it.

As I said earlier fed is facing a Djoko with Safin's shots. In fact better shots than Safin.
It's not the shots, it's the muscles.
Nishi's the one with the shots.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:08 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:Cilic did not return that well in Toronto...

yes he is playing amazing well. I think the windy conds are really affecting Federer.....whereas Cilic can hit through it.

As I said earlier fed is facing a Djoko with Safin's shots. In fact better shots than Safin.
It's not the shots, it's the muscles.
Nishi's the one with the shots.

Cilic always had great shots...even before he pumped up.

He takes the ball early and that is talent. he is a talented one dimensional player....well helped by his size certainly. It gives him bigger margins.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:08 pm

FK, why can't you give credit to Cilic, he is hitting incredibly hard and making Fed work in his service games. He is completely outmuscling Fed.

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Post by Veejay on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:10 pm

wtf?? didnt see the match...is federer injured?

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:11 pm

I think Cilic is going to blast Nishi out off the court.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:11 pm

I feel sick.

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:11 pm

:'(

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:12 pm

Veejay wrote:wtf?? didnt see the match...is federer injured?
I think he was tired...but Cilic is saying that's the best performance of his life....and it certainly looked very impressive.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:13 pm

I think only Cilic could make Fed look so bad today.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:13 pm

Cilic is the clear favourite now for me to win the title.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:14 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:Cilic is the clear favourite now for me to win the title.

yes he is going make Nishi look a step slower too!

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:15 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:FK, why can't you give credit to Cilic, he is hitting incredibly hard and making Fed work in his service games. He is completely outmuscling Fed.

Did you even see the same match as me?

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:16 pm

@ Tenez, I believe so too and was afraid of it before the match. Never did very well after fivesetters.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:17 pm

@FK, obviously not as you. Sad

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Post by truffin1 on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:19 pm

Damn.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:21 pm

Nishikori was in trouble vs. Raonic, he'll likely be in More trouble vs. Cilic. Anyway good to have two new guys in the final.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:24 pm

(would have prefered Fed though...)

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:29 pm

Tenez wrote:Looks like they are going to have an hour or 2 of play today.....at most!
Who said it would take that long? Yikes

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:30 pm

Ah, who am I kidding? Sad...

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Post by summerblues on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:37 pm

That was something else - I knew Fed could lose but I did not expect this demolition.  Cilic was brilliant, he could do no wrong.  Three aces in the final game - and I was wondering if he would finally crack there.

Fed looked totally helpless; no matter what he tried did not work.

As brilliant as Cilic was, he was helped by Fed being so-so at best.  Fed was pretty poor returning Cilic's serves - he normally returns even biggest serves better than this.  And he was making too many errors off the ground.  Sure, some were forced by the pace of Cilic's shots, but he gave away a good few cheaper ones too.  If Fed had been a bit steadier, he could have at least kept it closer and given Cilic more time to think and cool off.

Oh well.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:44 pm

@SB, completely agree, not a good match from Fed in any way, Cilic however could do no wrong. Disparity in levels mirrored in the 3-0.

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:46 pm

What a night folks.  Only saw the few games of the first semi, but the second semi wasn't a much lesser shock. And i'm talking about the ease of how Cilic beat Fed. I don't think Edberg en Fed will discuss much about this one: Cilic simply hits too hard, this put fed  constantly on his backfoot. 
Cilic can do what a Delpo in form can do: blow opponants off court but right now i doubt Delpo can play this big. Whereas Delpo usually grants his opponant a few neutral BH's at some point, Cilic did not take his foot off the gas for a single moment.

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:49 pm

summerblues wrote: Fed was pretty poor returning Cilic's serves - he normally returns even biggest serves better than this. 

Definitly his achilles heel. Cilic served great, but the ones Federer should have got, he didn't

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Post by Tenez on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:01 am

As I said I don;t think any other player could have beaten Federer so convincingly tonight. he did not play that bad but had to deal with a very difficult ball, very pacy and deep. It did not allow him to get any rhythm and confidence.

Against Nishi or even Djoko there would have been closer sets but clearly Fed was tired. Tired from the Toronto and Cincy and more so from the previous round.

It's good to have at last a new name on the slams. Haven't we all asked for a change of guard? well bar Fed of course.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:16 am

The strange part was: you could tell after 5 minutes it was going to progress like this. It all looked so inevitable.

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:17 am

Yes to Nishi, no to cilic.
I want teens winning!

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Post by gallery play on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:19 am

And i just hear Federer saying: "i knew the comeback was going to be tougher (than against Tsonga) because of the risk he was taking".

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:31 am

Steve Tignor ‏@SteveTignor 4m
Federer on Cilic ban: "I truly believed he didn't do anything wrong in the sense that he did it on purpose." Trusts Cilic, he says.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:50 am

gallery play wrote:And i just hear Federer saying: "i knew the comeback was going to be tougher (than against Tsonga) because of the risk he was taking".
..and his extra tiredness.

What a shame...I really fancied his chance before that match.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:01 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:Cilic did not return that well in Toronto...

yes he is playing amazing well. I think the windy conds are really affecting Federer.....whereas Cilic can hit through it.

As I said earlier fed is facing a Djoko with Safin's shots. In fact better shots than Safin.
It's not the shots, it's the muscles.
Nishi's the one with the shots.

Cilic always had great shots...even before he pumped up.

He takes the ball early and that is talent. he is a talented one dimensional player....well helped by his size certainly. It gives him bigger margins.

Yes,  but he also had the 0:5 H2H with Fed.
I hope Nishi saves the day on Monday and returns tennis to its human roots.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:42 am

luvsports! wrote:Steve Tignor ‏@SteveTignor  4m
Federer on Cilic ban: "I truly believed he didn't do anything wrong in the sense that he did it on purpose." Trusts Cilic, he says.

Just saw his post-match interview.
I remember him making a similar comment when Higgins was suspended. Verges on being naive...strange...

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:12 am

Omerta....?

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:21 am

His dead-pan face when answering the question certainly suggested it.
Not good.

Will probably be seen as "wise" by many, though.
Makes you want to go for a long, quiet walk by the river...

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Post by Tenez on Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:08 am

luvsports! wrote:Omerta....?

On that occasion I think it was stupid from the journalist to raise that question. We can't prove it so we may as well shut up (I am talking for broadcasters), plus how bad loser fed had looked had he raised doubts? He did make the points when he lost twice to Canas at IW and MIami 07 but here it's a Slam semi and Cilic had still to play very well. As Fed says he took the ball early and was not retrieving purely relying on legs and lungs. But certainly muscles improve safety in pace considerably.

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