Roland Garros 2021

by naxroy Wed May 26, 2021 12:51 pm

Here we are.

top seeds:

[th]Seed[/th][th]Name[/th][th]Seeding Ranking[/th][th]Entry Ranking[/th]

1	Novak Djokovic	1	1
2	Daniil Medvedev	2	2
3	Rafael Nadal	3	3
4	Dominic Thiem	4	4
5	Stefanos Tsitsipas	5	5
6	Alexander Zverev	6	6
7	Andrey Rublev	7	8
8	Roger Federer	8	7
9	Matteo Berrettini	9	10
10	Diego Schwartzman	10	9
11	Roberto Bautista Agut	11	11
12	Pablo Carreno Busta	12	12
13	David Goffin	13	15
14	Gael Monfils	15	14
15	Casper Ruud	16	27
16	Grigor Dimitrov	17	17
17	Milos Raonic	18	19
18	Jannik Sinner	19	22
19	Hubert Hurkacz	20	16
20	Felix Auger-Aliassime	21	21
21	Alex de Minaur	22	25
22	Cristian Garin	23	24
23	Karen Khachanov	25	23
24	Aslan Karatsev	26	29
25	Daniel Evans	27	33
26	Lorenzo Sonego	28	28
27	Fabio Fognini	29	18
28	Nikoloz Basilashvili	31	36
29	Ugo Humbert	32	32
30	Taylor Fritz	33	30
31	John Isner	34	38
32	Reilly Opelka	35	45

by Tenez Wed May 26, 2021 9:14 pm

Cool...the draw will be exciting.

I know the FO sponsored by Babolat has really helped Nadal with the draws in the past.

I am not sure it will help him this year. I can see a Djoko Nadal semi.

Nadal will want to avoid :

Karatsev
Rublev
Tsi
Shapo
Medvedev (not good on clay but might find Nadal's shots easy to attack plus he can run).

by Jahu Thu May 27, 2021 7:35 pm

Projected QF:

Fed-Djoko

Nadal-Rublev

Zverev-Thiem

Tsi-Medvedev

by naxroy Thu May 27, 2021 7:38 pm

The winner is the bottom half

by Tenez Thu May 27, 2021 11:18 pm

Very good. Shame Nadal and Roger are not in the same quarter. A good chance for Tsi!

by Tenez Thu May 27, 2021 11:47 pm

What's wrong with Shapo?

by bogbrush Sun May 30, 2021 4:50 pm

I forgot the French was on but just tuned in and see that Thiem is imploding.

God, the tennis is garbage. I am reminded of why I am dropping out of this sport as Federer finally comes to the end. Fundamentally tennis is great to play and rubbish to watch unless there someone thinking up shots you wouldn’t imagine.

by N2D2L Sun May 30, 2021 5:58 pm

bogbrush wrote:I forgot the French was on but just tuned in and see that Thiem is imploding.

God, the tennis is garbage. I am reminded of why I am dropping out of this sport as Federer finally comes to the end. Fundamentally tennis is great to play and rubbish to watch unless there someone thinking up shots you wouldn’t imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuw43UBJ9Uo

by Tenez Sun May 30, 2021 6:44 pm

LOL....nadal runs after the ball...so there is minimum "thinking" involved. And teh FO is teh best surface to run after balls....hence why Nadal has so many wins there.

by bogbrush Sun May 30, 2021 7:11 pm

I was poised to side against Tenez but after the first two I’m afraid they are not what I would watch for, incredible though they are.

I’m thinking, just as a silly example, if this sort of stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0b0mKv_yIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zTzNUN_agU

by naxroy Sun May 30, 2021 7:14 pm

the best clay courter ever indeed.

so in one half we have Nadal, Novak and Roger and in the other half Thiem is already out

by summerblues Sun May 30, 2021 7:47 pm

Does Thiem think that now that he has one slam he has accomplished it all and can cruise into retirement?

by N2D2L Sun May 30, 2021 7:56 pm

bogbrush wrote:I was poised to side against Tenez but after the first two I’m afraid they are not what I would watch for, incredible though they are.

The first one was a reflex volley followed by a hotdog lob! Although for some weird reason the video I linked only showed a side view of the hotdog with some odd editing.

This is a normal vid of that point:

If Federer hit that, you would definitely appreciate it. Maybe just player bias if not?

bogbrush wrote:
I’m thinking, just as a silly example, if this sort of stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0b0mKv_yIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zTzNUN_agU

This is brilliant. The drop shot return of serves are brutal genius.

by bogbrush Sun May 30, 2021 9:16 pm

I don’t know but honestly the genius preceded the bias so I think it’s fair.

On another subject, Osaka. Do the media or F off. Mental Health FFS!

by Tenez Sun May 30, 2021 9:55 pm

naxroy wrote:the best clay courter ever indeed.

so in one half we have Nadal, Novak and Roger and in the other half Thiem is already out

Thiem is not on form...but even when he was he never had the nerves to win anything. Just lucky that the slam he won was against an even more gutless player.

The next gen is different!

by N2D2L Sun May 30, 2021 10:12 pm

bogbrush wrote:I don’t know but honestly the genius preceded the bias so I think it’s fair.

We both know you'd be waxing lyrical if Federer hit that hotdog. Regardless, it's true the Swiss is a once in a generation genius.

bogbrush wrote:
On another subject, Osaka. Do the media or F off. Mental Health FFS!

This got on my nerves. Mental health is a very serious issue; but there's no correlation between that and some questions from journalists after a defeat. Makes a mockery of genuine issues.

by Tenez Sun May 30, 2021 10:15 pm

bogbrush wrote:I don’t know but honestly the genius preceded the bias so I think it’s fair.

On another subject, Osaka. Do the media or F off. Mental Health FFS!

Shows how her ego got blown out! Having to explain a loss in front of journalists is obviously a pain for her. She should read Kipling's poem at Wimby's gate!

by naxroy Sun May 30, 2021 11:15 pm

she will have to reconsider but journalists shall also give it a thought

by bogbrush Mon May 31, 2021 10:54 am

Only softball questions allowed? Why?

I always thought Andy Roddick had a good way if he was really hacked off, but they take the money that ultimately comes from the public so doing the public communication thing is part of the professional job.

by summerblues Mon May 31, 2021 8:17 pm

bogbrush wrote:On another subject, Osaka. Do the media or F off.

Post-match interviews are probably unavoidable - part and parcel of promoting tennis. But if Osaka does not like it, nothing wrong with her trying to fight it - though she will most likely lose the fight, obviously.

by bogbrush Mon May 31, 2021 8:18 pm

I see the snowflake has melted. Good job RG for holding the line, though regrettably I now expect players taking the knee for her, wearing tribute tee-shirts, and so on until she gets her way. I mean she already ticks too many boxes not to. All she needs is a girlfriend, or even better to declare gender neutrality and they’ll probably have to award her the trophy to make amends.

by naxroy Mon May 31, 2021 9:24 pm

if all players stayed united, they would win all fights

and this applies to any colective

But I am not sure I understand which was the fight here

by bogbrush Mon May 31, 2021 11:25 pm

Sure, but what they win is another matter. Without the Slams they would be paid a fraction, it is these iconic events that create the value. Players come and go, the great tournaments go on.

by summerblues Mon May 31, 2021 11:39 pm

naxroy wrote:if all players stayed united, they would win all fights

and this applies to any colective

But I am not sure I understand which was the fight here

I perceive the "fight" to be that players should not be required to do the pressers - or at least they should have some leeway. I do not think that fight is very winnable because pressers ultimately bring money, so not many people - players included - will be keen to join in.

But I do have some sympathy for her in that I do not hold journalists in general in very high regard - I kind of think most are "lying scum" so to speak - and many of their questions at these press conferences are quite silly.

My take on it is that press conferences are a necessary evil. If there was a way to up their quality somehow, I would be all for it, just do not see how.

by Jahu Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:14 am

So her racking in $40M from sponsors last year gives her the right to refuse to talk after the match?

Good that she quit RG, think she needs a new BF to manhandle her properly and fix her, guess that dumb toy boy is no good penetrating her mind.

I like her game compared to most ping pong girl tennis we see, but she seems to have given herself some non court political, racial etc roles that are overloading her too much, hit the ball and stfu.

On the other hand, Fed was superb today?? Totally different play from Geneva.

by bogbrush Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:49 am

She appears like a good advert for teaching kids to suck stuff up and not try to be so delicate. A nice girl, messed up.

Fed enjoyed himself against a guy who had nothing to threaten him with. The only thing he wants avoid is grind. Better get out before the quarters!

by bogbrush Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:54 pm

Nice from Federer. Superhuman timing and reactions.

by Tenez Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:09 pm

I was surprised to see Federer winning the 3rd in the TB having been 41 or 5/2 up I believe.....

by summerblues Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:51 am

Never heard of Musetti before. It turns out he plays with a SHBH. Watching highlights of Musetti vs Tsitsipas from Lyon. Quite entertaining.

by Tenez Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:08 am

The organisers are not very smart to start a night session at 9pm...especially with still a curfew from 9pm.

Looks like Federer will pull out now.

by bogbrush Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:09 am

It’s be the smart move to pull out now; 3 matches played & won and an unwinnable 4th round match, so get home and prepare for grass.

by naxroy Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:21 am

Federer has earned his right to do what he wants (retire or not)

by bogbrush Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:29 pm

Confirmed. I’m relieved.

Hell, he might well sign off RG with a win! I suspect he’ll be back for a full crowd send off next year though.

by bogbrush Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:16 pm

Excellent to see the screaming bully out again.

Margaret Court, your record looks safe. It’s killing the wokeratti.

by Tenez Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:33 pm

bogbrush wrote:Confirmed. I’m relieved.

Hell, he might well sign off RG with a win! I suspect he’ll be back for a full crowd send off next year though.

I doubt he will be around next year. I am not sure he wants to say a long good bye.

by Tenez Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:42 pm

https://www.rolandgarros.com/fr-fr/video/points-du-jour-musetti-cecchinato-troisieme-tour-2021

In one match Musetti has played more sensational points than Nadal in a 20 year career!

by bogbrush Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:16 am

Fed may chuck it in after the US, given he’ll have passed 40 by then. Much may depend on his showing at Wimbledon.

On the other hand he loves tennis.

by Jahu Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:24 pm

Good that he quit, save it for Halle and W.

Guessing Basel this year will be his last play and quit at his birthplace? Unless he goes to top 8 and gets into year end Masters.

by Jahu Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:31 pm

Tenez wrote:https://www.rolandgarros.com/fr-fr/video/points-du-jour-musetti-cecchinato-troisieme-tour-2021

In one match Musetti has played more sensational points than Nadal in a 20 year career!

He played 2 good sets today too and totally bankrupted physically from 3rd set till he quit on 5th.

Maybe Sinner today can do some damage.

Schwartzman keeps rolling.

by naxroy Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:49 pm

Looking forward to seeing Tsitsipas Medvedev tomorrow.

Tenez always had Medvedev as a good bet for RG and despite his awful record till this edition, the russian has finally come up to the expectations.

He always had the game to perform on clay, but for some extrange reason, he hadnt so far.

by summerblues Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:32 am

I just found out that Medvedev can reach #1 ranking at RG. And he apparently might not even need to win the title. He could be a slamless #1.

by Tenez Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:24 am

Can Djokovic recover from 5 setters nowadays? Luckily for him, and me, there were 3 easy sets amongst those 5.

Another proof that the youngsters are not nearly as fit (essentially stamina) as the 30+yos. New technology has fooled us in believing 26 was the peak age in tennis....and it is still fooling many actually.

by naxroy Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:44 pm

Nadal in semifinals.

it seems like we will have Rafole 58

and Zverev or Tsitsipas waiting for either of them

by summerblues Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:47 am

We now need to thread the needle - the only hope is that Nole somehow beats Rafa and then somehow loses to Tsitsipas or Zverev.

by Tenez Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:41 am

Why did Djoko lost his temper at the end of the match? Really bizarre. what did he say?

Annoyed with the organisers?

by N2D2L Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:46 pm

If Djokovic wins FO, as is very likely, he is going to go on to win Calendar Year Grand Slam.

GOAT race between Federer and Djokovic will sadly be over by end of 2021.

by Tenez Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 pm

No. Nadal is guaranteed to win another FO! Don't worry, your jixing will work!

by bogbrush Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:52 pm

Nadal is going to crush Djokovic. I don’t think it will even be close.

by N2D2L Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:15 pm

bogbrush wrote:Nadal is going to crush Djokovic. I don’t think it will even be close.

Nadal is old now and very very slow. Lateral movement worse than 40 year old Federer's. Serve also a mess, he keeps hitting double faults.
SF won't be close.

Djokovic will win this, and then go on to complete CYGS, and declare himself GOAT.

by N2D2L Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:41 pm

Djokovic will celebrate like this after winning his 21st slam and CYGS at US Open:

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