nadal DEC1MATEs thiem to win #18
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Re: nadal DEC1MATEs thiem to win #18
And losing v Roger and Djok in 3 of the 4 slams - behind in virtually all non clay records. No ATP finals. Not really all that close, is it?
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The volley at 4:10 was also great.
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That was a superb performance from Rafa. Lots of variety. In particular that lunging stop volley with backspin - that is pure touch and talent.
I do think Thiem was feeling the effects of the schedule. However, even a fully fit Thiem would've been up against it versus this version of Rafa.
I do think Thiem was feeling the effects of the schedule. However, even a fully fit Thiem would've been up against it versus this version of Rafa.
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Emancipator wrote:That was a superb performance from Rafa. Lots of variety. In particular that lunging stop volley with backspin - that is pure touch and talent.
I agree, Thiem had bad luck with the lack of rest day. Also agree Rafa looked to be controlling the rallies, so he probably would have won it regardless.Emancipator wrote:
I do think Thiem was feeling the effects of the schedule. However, even a fully fit Thiem would've been up against it versus this version of Rafa.
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One thing I have to point out, while it's true that the last 2 Slam Nadal has won have been on clay, there have been 2 quite recent non-clay Slams Nadal was 1-2 points away from winning.
AO2017 I thought Nadal played amazing aggressive tennis, and got just beaten by Federer blitzing the ball on both wings at unheard of levels.
Wimby 2018 Nadal was also 1 point away from winning, in fact in the semi he won around 70 points at the net over 5 sets, with a high percentage of net points won. Apart from Federer I don't think anyone has sustained that sort success at the net across 5 sets against Djokovic.
Obviously from a purely statistical sense they were 2 losses, but the performances should be taken into consideration when analysing Nadal's non-clay pedigree.
AO2017 I thought Nadal played amazing aggressive tennis, and got just beaten by Federer blitzing the ball on both wings at unheard of levels.
Wimby 2018 Nadal was also 1 point away from winning, in fact in the semi he won around 70 points at the net over 5 sets, with a high percentage of net points won. Apart from Federer I don't think anyone has sustained that sort success at the net across 5 sets against Djokovic.
Obviously from a purely statistical sense they were 2 losses, but the performances should be taken into consideration when analysing Nadal's non-clay pedigree.
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also nadal comes from making final in australia
and eventhough he was destroyed by novak, a final is a final
and eventhough he was destroyed by novak, a final is a final
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very Revealing interview from Rafa:
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nadal-reflects-12th-roland-garros-title-2019
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nadal-reflects-12th-roland-garros-title-2019
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Has Nadal revealed he's in the weakest clay era in living memory? Hmm thought not.
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He’s beaten Djokovic 5 times at the French, Djokovic is one of the best baseliners in history.
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DEC1M8 wrote:He’s beaten Djokovic 5 times at the French, Djokovic is one of the best baseliners in history.
Just shows how lucky Nadal is. Cause Djoko is a better clay courter than Nadal.
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Bottom line is if we have both Djoko and Nadal fresh with roughly the same draw and decent weather conditions at the French.....where would be your money and everybody else money?
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Tenez wrote:DEC1M8 wrote:He’s beaten Djokovic 5 times at the French, Djokovic is one of the best baseliners in history.
Just shows how lucky Nadal is. Cause Djoko is a better clay courter than Nadal.
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After a career of over 15 Years, having played more than 50 times to eachother, IT is 17-7 h2h on Clay for Nadal. 25-9 Clay masters won, 12-1 Roland Garros won. 59-14 Clay titles won... That is lots of luck indeed
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