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Post by sphairistike on Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:23 pm

From http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/03/11/Indian-Wells-Tuesday-Preview-Djokovic-Dimitrov.aspx:

SPOTLIGHT ON THIEM
Dominic Thiem, who is contesting his first ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event, will bid for a place in the fourth round when he takes on Julien Benneteau. The 20 year old has qualified into four tour-level events this year, breaking into the Top 100 in the Emirates ATP Rankings for the first time last month at No. 99. The Austrian enjoyed a standout year in 2013, reaching a maiden quarter-final in Kitzbuhel and a second in Vienna, before becoming the youngest player to finish the year ranked in the Top 125. His coach, Gunter Bresnik, also works closely with Gulbis.

I saw a bit of his R2 match and he seems pretty good but I wasn't convinced yet but kept hearing the commentators saying how good of a young player he is and how many professionals saw him as a potential future number 1. What do you guys think?

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Post by DEC1M8 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:51 pm

I've seen him play quite a few matches, the first time I watched him was against Muster I think in Vienna 2011.
Nice player to watch, seems to have a good attitude, and certainly my favourite amongst the current youngsters.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:53 pm

In 2012 on v2 I made a list of who I thought were potentials for the future, let me repost here (1st group is oldest, 3rd group is youngest):

1st Group:
Milos Raonic
Bernard Tomic
David Goffin
Ryan Harrison
Grigor Dimitrov
Jerzy Janowicz

2nd Group:
Cedrik Marcel Stebe
Jack Sock
James Duckworth
Andrey Kuznetsov
Yuki Bhambri

3rd Group (youngsters):
Oliver Golding
Philip Peliwo
Kimmer Coppejans
Luke Saville
Dominic Thiem

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:16 pm

Hello Sphair!

I was reading through the Everything Else section the other day and saw your chess thread and wondered what you were up to!

I am very keen to see Thiem as well, I saw a few of his shots in some highlights last week and he looked really good - SBH, very aggressive FH, all-court movement...very promising.

Just checked, he is playing Benneteau after the Gulbis - Dimitrov match, should be good.

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Post by sphairistike on Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:31 pm

He (unfortunately ?) lost. But hey, we'll surely hear of him again...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:57 pm

I am just watching him play v Robredo. Very good FH. His Serve is pretty average but his FH is really impressive. The FH is often the sign of a great champion.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:27 pm

He surely knows what to do with a short ball.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:11 pm

Tenez wrote:I am just watching him play v Robredo. Very good FH. His Serve is pretty average but his FH is really impressive. The FH is often the sign of a great champion.

Like him!
Maybe he is the first player to have unanimous backing of this forum then.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:35 pm

Shame he lost. Clearly inexperienced. Boredo read him like an open book which wasn't the case the other way round.
Needs to fix that ball toss asap.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:12 am

Who said the courts were less bouncy!!!! Robredo moonballed like crazy and all shots were smashes!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:16 am

yes, the courts were killing tennis, I saw parts of 4 matches and they were all  so suffocatingly slow.
Only Thiem and Chardy were able to hit through it with their FHs consistently....very energy sapping conditions.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:24 am

It's so difficult to hit a bouncy ball flat!

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Post by sphairistike on Tue May 06, 2014 11:49 pm

So happy he beat Stan, and coming from a set down! Thanks to him I won a mini bet against a friend!  Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 12:48 am

Yep you picked him early before I even heard of him.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 07, 2014 12:57 am

I have just realised Thiem is only 20!
That makes his result even more impressive. Bottom half of the draw is there for the taking now, can Dominic do it?

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 07, 2014 10:11 am

Thiem should handle his next opponent fine - Youzhny/Lopez.
After that Nishi/Raonic.
I tried to find a clip with one of the brilliant inside-in BHs (is there such a thing, on fact, when it's not quite DTL?) , but no highlight on youtube yet.


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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 2:11 pm

I watched a bit more of Thiem at lunch time. He has a great potential. He can generate some good power while stretched.....which is very important nowadays. He handles loopy shots pretty well and his BH is going to improve much more from now even.

Strangely he has big legs and big bum. I noticed those who had were usually fast on their legs cause they seem to have the power to start off fast in rallies which is essential in tennis (McEnroe for instance).

He really should up the ranking quickly...even if Stan did not play too well.

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Post by sphairistike on Wed May 07, 2014 3:06 pm

I had missed this article on him:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/02/7/Emirates-ATP-Star-Of-Tomorrow-Thiem.aspx

Seems it is actually his coach who changed him from a defensive DHBH to a more aggressive SHBH player. Good coach!!  Thumbs Up  Applause

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 4:02 pm

His BH is good but his FH is actually better. He can hook the ball pretty well. He seems to be able to loop it from the BH as well as hitting flat dtl though this shot will always be a risky shot.

They say he is 6'1" but he looks taller to me. 6'1" is the size of slams winners in tennis (Pete, Fed, Jim Courier, Nadal to name a few).

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 07, 2014 4:35 pm

I didn't know he changed from DBH to SBH, good on him and esp the coach!
He is very strong, so no problem there. I know that Nole started as a SBH-er but just couldn't  cope with it physically as a teenager.

What I liked about Thiem was how natural his tennis instinct was. That was the first thing that stood out to me compared to Stan, who was made to look at best pretty basic and at worst almost Bolletieri, he had his brain switched off at times.

Stan played unfocused, as if taken by surprise by the quality of Thiem's  competitiveness.
He capitalised on Thiem's inexperience  and cruised through the first set, but as soon as Thiem settled in the 2nd, it really threw Stan and unstabilised him, showing all the fragility of his new found slam confidence. He was spraying the ball all over the place, going for shots thinking they will somehow land in, rather than batten down the hatches, regroup and press the restart button.

Of the two, although 9 years younger, Thiem was the more mature and intelligent player in last night's match.

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 5:27 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I didn't know he changed from DBH to SBH, good on him and esp the coach!
He is very strong, so no problem there. I know that Nole started as a SBH-er but just couldn't  cope with it physically as a teenager.

I do not agree. A DHBH is less energy friendly and require actually a stronger body...whereas a SHBH does not require as much power but more timing.

It is clear that Djoko wanted to have solid shots and knew that he would have a stronger BH with 2 hands....like most players nowadays. Those who persist with SHBH like Copil, Stan, Thiem are really talented.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 07, 2014 5:38 pm

I know it's easier and safer to play DBH, but those were his words.
All SBH-ers at the moment have quite strong upper body compared to Nole, bar maybe Gasquet.
To me, playing with DBH is not tennis. I tried once as an experiment, and it came quite easy to me, but it felt like swimming using legs only.
I still don't understand how it managed to creep into professional tennis, it's a disgrace to sport.

In a way it's like doped tennis, but nobody sees it like that unfortunately. It's all about spin, power...and zero flair and fun. A bit like all these women feeling emasculated and empowered, driving their huge 4 wheel tractors everywhere!

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 5:57 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I know it's easier and safer to play DBH, but those were his words.
All SBH-ers at the moment have quite strong upper body compared to Nole, bar maybe Gasquet.

I'd say all DHBH have very strong upper bodies...especially on the abs belt. That's something they all built, like they could have built the upper body too. When you are a kid, it's simply easier to play DHBH and kids who start with SHBH are usually the very talented ones. I have never seen DJoko play a SHBH so there is not much trace of one in his past....and clearly it is consistency (or lack of) that made him shift to DHBH....his whole game is based on consistency!

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 07, 2014 6:21 pm

It is. He is The Wall.

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 07, 2014 6:43 pm

A wall that looks like a gruyere after a Federer match! Winking

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