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Re: Pray For France

Post by Tenez on Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:30 am

No I am still around.....just busy, trying to make money so we can have a turkey on the table for Christmas.

I miss the days when I could post all day. But anyway politics is a difficult subject and religion is even harder to discuss about as it transcends reason.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:12 am

Actually, it's not that difficult to talk about religion...provided you have spiritual eyesight.

Otherwise, it's blind leading the blind...like in politics.

I hope you have a nice turkey for Christmas.

I roast salmon instead. And also work for it. I can't help being organised...

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Post by Tenez on Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:04 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Actually, it's not that difficult to talk about religion...provided you have spiritual eyesight.

Otherwise, it's blind leading the blind...like in politics.

I hope you have a nice turkey for Christmas.

I roast salmon instead. And also work for it. I can't help being organised...
It's not the spiritual eyesight the problem, it's the fact religious people tend to have their sanity relying upon it. So non-religious people questioning religion can spread havoc to religious people....and vice versa.

Whereas in fact if one really believes (or knows) then nothing should be affecting him/her.

I don;t make the difference between an idiot like Richard Dawkins and those religious extremists...they are 2 faces of the same coin.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:38 pm

Tenez wrote:
It's not the spiritual eyesight the problem, it's the fact religious people tend to have their sanity relying upon it. So non-religious people questioning religion  can spread havoc to religious people....and vice versa.

Whereas in fact if one really believes (or knows) then nothing should be affecting him/her.

I don;t make the difference between an idiot like Richard Dawkins and those religious extremists...they are 2 faces of the same coin.  
Just because someone thinks he/she is religious doesn't mean they have spiritual eyesight.
That's why some end up being extremists...but they are as blind as atheists...

Also, they have one thing in common - they try to "earn" their salvation.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:51 am

Tenez wrote:
It's not the spiritual eyesight the problem, it's the fact religious people tend to have their sanity relying upon it. So non-religious people questioning religion  can spread havoc to religious people....and vice versa.

Whereas in fact if one really believes (or knows) then nothing should be affecting him/her.

I don;t make the difference between an idiot like Richard Dawkins and those religious extremists...they are 2 faces of the same coin.  

Absolutely!
It's the "peace that passes all understanding".
It's faith, not empty words that move the mountains.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:36 am

There is a pretty good program on Arte (a franco german channel) about Issa (Jesus) role and description in the Koran.

It's a bit slow but very interesting.

There seems to be little doubt about the existence of those prophets so the question is how come people still talk so much about them many centuries on.

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