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Post by gallery play on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:23 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:Strange though because he's basically the same player like he used to be..yet somehow very beatable nowadays. I can't see him winning another slam.
And how do you explain that?
Simple, more ue's

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:24 pm

luvsports! wrote:Off drugs.
Yes the drugs which mean you can time your forehand and not hit them into the crowd.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:26 pm

luvsports! wrote:Off drugs.
No way! He is muscling the ball as hard as ever. Look at the size of him! His legs have gone even bigger.
I reckon the rest have caught up.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:28 pm

Look at his 2010 USO first round v Gabashvili...76 76 63..yet he won the USO that year. That's what you don't want to admit Kim...you only remember the wins...not the way he got there.

The difference today is that quite a few players know now how to handle spin and are fitter. So those close matches he had then...can easily turn into losses today and that is affecting his confidence....plus the fact they are a bit stricter on the 25s rule.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:29 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Off drugs.
No way! He is muscling the ball as hard as ever. Look at the size of him! His legs have gone even bigger.
I reckon the rest have caught up.
This is not an accurate observation. He does not look massive.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:30 pm

Tenez wrote:Look at his 2010 USO first round v Gabashvili...76 76 63..yet he won the USO that year. That's what you don't want to admit Kim...you only remember the wins...not the way he got there.
I was just thinking of that match now, I remember staying up until 3am watching that. He's playing a lot better then, compared to now. Against Gabashvili in that match he didn't lose his serve, he was solid, just couldn't eat into return games for the first couple of sets. 
In this match he's playing hilariously bad shots every 2 minutes.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:30 pm

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:32 pm

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noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Off drugs.
No way! He is muscling the ball as hard as ever. Look at the size of him! His legs have gone even bigger.
I reckon the rest have caught up.
This is not an accurate observation. He does not look massive.
To me he does, huge arms, and bigger upper legs.

Would be interesting to see him in that old pirate outfit.

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:34 pm

He doesn't hit as hard, his shots are shorter and lack power and he tires quicker.
The 25 second rule was in place in 2013 when he cleaned up. But imo, he still doesn't get pinged enough so that isn't a strong enough reason for his level drop.
Imo, he's clean, or at least cleaner.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:38 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
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noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Off drugs.
No way! He is muscling the ball as hard as ever. Look at the size of him! His legs have gone even bigger.
I reckon the rest have caught up.
This is not an accurate observation. He does not look massive.
To me he does, huge arms, and bigger upper legs.

Would be interesting to see him in that old pirate outfit.
The pirate outfit hid his legs.. anyway: those legs are not huge, not at all

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:40 pm

For me, Nadal is just playing closer to the baseline and not having enough time to load his shots with spin.
He does it occasionally but not at will.

And that is enough to make a difference.

Why is he playing closer to the baseline?
25 sec rule.

No other reason to get out of his comfort zone.

I saw it with my own eyes in RG.
Against Nole he lasted a set in his 4m behind the baseline mode.
Mind you, those were some monster dead balls.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:42 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Tenez wrote:Look at his 2010 USO first round v Gabashvili...76 76 63..yet he won the USO that year. That's what you don't want to admit Kim...you only remember the wins...not the way he got there.
I was just thinking of that match now, I remember staying up until 3am watching that. He's playing a lot better then, compared to now. Against Gabashvili in that match he didn't lose his serve, he was solid, just couldn't eat into return games for the first couple of sets. 
In this match he's playing hilariously bad shots every 2 minutes.
But Shwartz is playing much better than gabsh in 2010....and conditions seem faster today.


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Post by Tenez on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:45 pm

But Schwatz mental is abysmal.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:47 pm

Tenez wrote:
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Tenez wrote:Look at his 2010 USO first round v Gabashvili...76 76 63..yet he won the USO that year. That's what you don't want to admit Kim...you only remember the wins...not the way he got there.
I was just thinking of that match now, I remember staying up until 3am watching that. He's playing a lot better then, compared to now. Against Gabashvili in that match he didn't lose his serve, he was solid, just couldn't eat into return games for the first couple of sets. 
In this match he's playing hilariously bad shots every 2 minutes.
But Shwartz is playing much better than gabsh in 2010....and conditions seem faster today.

No, Gabashvili played very well that day, considerably better than Shwartz today.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:51 pm

Swatrz could/should have won that match in 3.....that is I guess the difference between Nadal now and Nadal then.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:59 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Tenez wrote:Look at his 2010 USO first round v Gabashvili...76 76 63..yet he won the USO that year. That's what you don't want to admit Kim...you only remember the wins...not the way he got there.
I was just thinking of that match now, I remember staying up until 3am watching that. He's playing a lot better then, compared to now. Against Gabashvili in that match he didn't lose his serve, he was solid, just couldn't eat into return games for the first couple of sets. 
In this match he's playing hilariously bad shots every 2 minutes.

Nadal is on the decline and has been a while.  A victim of age, like all the other multiple champs that approach 30 and find it very hard to win slams like they once could.  This Nadal is there for the taking in every match he plays.  I've never seen him play as badly as this year.  I'm loving it, of course - but pretending this isn't decline is silly.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:01 am

Nadal trying to do a chest bump a la Nole at the net to Shwartz but this one reluctant to mix sweat with Nadal!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:02 am

That was pathetic from Schwartzman.

Somehow Nadal again wins a lost match. So nothing's changed much, really?

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:08 am

very unlucky from Dimi to be down a break in the 5th. He is playing well but can't quite convert it into wins.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:15 am

Tenez wrote:very unlucky from Dimi to be down a break in the 5th. He is playing well but can't quite convert it into wins.
Yes, but his BH is weak.
I admire he's chosen to play with it, but it's just not good enough for current era.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:15 am

Kuku is swinging freely knowing he has nothing to lose whereas Dimi has too much pressure on himself.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:16 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:very unlucky from Dimi to be down a break in the 5th. He is playing well but can't quite convert it into wins.
Yes, but his BH is weak.
I admire he's chosen to play with it, but it's just not good enough for current era.

I am not sure. I think it is quite good. He is just not a good match player.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:20 am

The end is nigh when Kukus of this world are winning long rallies Yikes

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:21 am

noleisthebest wrote:The end is nigh when Kukus of this world are winning long rallies Yikes
Yes with sizzling FHs in the corners at the end of 20+ shot rallies.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:24 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:The end is nigh when Kukus of this world are winning long rallies Yikes
Yes with sizzling FHs in the corners at the end of 20+ shot rallies.

The tour has really consolidated in the last two years.

It really can only be explained as you said with no changes in technology.

So what now?

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:24 am

missed the predictions for day-3   Wah

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:49 am

On one day raiders i will give you extra picks, deal?

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:52 am

luvsports! wrote:On one day raiders i will give you extra picks, deal?
Smooch Smooch Hug Hug

Thanks.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:47 pm

Or potentially could do maybe double points for the ones you get right today? Your call.

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