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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:05 pm

Some players should never retire. Fognini is one of them. love

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:16 pm

Fabio's BH slice is divine.
So is that flat topspin one. Magic

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:20 pm

...and FH DTL...... Bubbly

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Post by Tenez Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:21 pm

Daniel2 wrote:Might have escaped your attention Eman but Nadal is already incapable of chasing down every ball - hence why the losses are piling up. But there will come a day when he's left totally naked and will be forced to retire.
Yeah and the guy that gave him a lesson is less than a year younger!

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Post by Jahu Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:29 pm

Set 1 in the bag, go Foggy gooooo

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Post by summerblues Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:39 pm

This is very watchable. I was worried what version of Fognini would show up but so far at least he is playing well. And Lajovic is playing ok too, and his game is ok to watch also.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Come on Duci, strut your stuff!!!!! diva

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:40 pm

summerblues wrote:This is very watchable.  I was worried what version of Fognini would show up but so far at least he is playing well.  And Lajovic is playing ok too, and his game is ok to watch also.

Agreed.

Who said clay season is a "yawn"?

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:02 pm

Is Fabio the best shotmaker evaaaaaa? artist

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:11 pm

Libiamo beautiful Fabious one and only tennis!!!!!! love



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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:13 pm

And a huge Hug and Applause to wonderful singlehanded backhand pride from Serbia Duci Lajovic!
You made Serbia proud today. love

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:23 pm

Wow, tears of joy for Fabio coming out of nitb's big blue eyes......Rose

Bravo!

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Post by Jahu Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:25 pm

Well done Foggy, well deserved title all week.

First italian ever to win a Masters, top man.

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Post by summerblues Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:26 pm

Well done, congrats Fabio. He will advance to #12 - his highest ranking ever.

This was a very pleasant Monte Carlo tournament for a change. Beautiful location, perfect start to the spring clay court season, and for once a happy result too.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:45 pm

summerblues wrote:Well done, congrats Fabio.  He will advance to #12 - his highest ranking ever.

This was a very pleasant Monte Carlo tournament for a change.  Beautiful location, perfect start to the spring clay court season, and for once a happy result too.

You forgot the most important thing: delectable, flairful tennis and a victory with 10/10 panache!

Doesn't get better than that....I can just imagine how much he enjoyed himself.... Bubbly

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Post by summerblues Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:22 pm

noleisthebest wrote:You forgot the most important thing: delectable, flairful tennis and a victory with 10/10 panache!
You say that because you are a girl.  In any event, the most important thing is that Christ is risen.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:23 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:You forgot the most important thing: delectable, flairful tennis and a victory with 10/10 panache!
You say that because you are a girl.  In any event, the most important thing is that Christ is risen.
I stand rebuked.
Ваистину воскресе!

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Post by AceofDeath Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:47 pm

Fognini should have achieved WAYYYYYy more on clay than he has, just unfortunate to have a juniors level serve, Regretfully I see him getting beat by someone like Ramos Vinolas at the French  Doh!!

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Post by summerblues Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:30 am

AceofDeath wrote:Fognini should have achieved WAYYYYYy more on clay than he has, just unfortunate to have a juniors level serve, Regretfully I see him getting beat by someone like Ramos Vinolas at the French  Doh!!
Yeah, sadly that is quite likely.  Sad

I cannot think of many current players who underperform relative to their abilities as much as Fognini does.  Kyrgios perhaps, and that is about it.  Even with the serve he has Fabio has all the tools to do far better - especially on clay.

Shame really, because his game not only has potential to be much better, but it is also eminently watchable.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:27 am

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summerblues wrote:Awful game from Rafa.  I do not understand Rafa's tactics here.  I thought he would play more aggressive.  He cannot run as much as he used to, yet he is just sitting back defending.  Same vs Pella yesterday from the bits I saw.

Nadal's usual game-plan is to stay in the high-level rallies till the opponents get enough of it and try for a make-or-break shot. So unless someone he is painting the lines all throughout the match, Nadal wins.

Also he has started to stay back further 5m, you can barely see him on the camera screen when receiving. And he does this against almost everyone, not monsters servers.

Staying so far back cuts down his shot accuracy to a great deal.

To me that shows how the tour evolves. nadal could win all those clay courts standing 5m behind the baseline on clay....until Djoko took real advantage and showed us how to beat Nadal on clay (Soderling did show it too...but on an exceptional good day). Nowadays more people can handle his spin.

Having said that Nadal may have not fully recovered from IW and it is difficult to read much from this match I have not watched.

I believe that too is partly due to him staying further 5m behind the BL that he did most of his career. Those spinning balls considerably lose their spin & energy the longer they have to stay in the air.  The stats showing RPS only show how the ball was struck. Wish there were stats showing how the rotations are when the ball is struck by the opponent's racquet.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:28 am

noleisthebest wrote:Is Fabio the best shotmaker evaaaaaa? artist

Hahah.. No but when on song, he is no less either.

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