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Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:21 pm

Now that we have a good knowledge of players forms let's see who is right and who is wrong!..again

Joker double the points

Andy Murray (GBR) [20]
v
Sam Querrey (USA) [44]

Milos Raonic (CAN) [20]
v
Roger Federer (SUI) [13]

Gilles Muller (LUX) [20]
v
Marin Cilic (CRO) [10]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [22]
v
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [12]
FINISH 6-4 6-7(5) 4-3
Henri Kontinen (FIN) [3]
John Peers (AUS) [3]
v
Ryan Harrison (USA) [10]
Michael Venus (NZL) [10]

Ashleigh Barty (AUS) [8]
Casey Dellacqua (AUS) [8]
v
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) [2]
Elena Vesnina (RUS) [2]

John Peers (AUS) 5
Sabine Lisicki (GER)5
v
Marcelo Demoliner (BRA) 5
Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez (ESP)5

Henri Kontinen (FIN)7
Heather Watson (GBR)7
v
Ivan Dodig (CRO) [4]
Sania Mirza (IND) [4]

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:24 pm

Sam Querrey (USA) [44] Joker!

Roger Federer (SUI) [13]

Marin Cilic (CRO) [10]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [22]


Ryan Harrison (USA) [10]
Michael Venus (NZL) [10]


Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) [2]
Elena Vesnina (RUS) [2]

John Peers (AUS) 5
Sabine Lisicki (GER)5

Ivan Dodig (CRO) [4]
Sania Mirza (IND) [4]

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:38 pm

Is that Berdych prediction for the points or for real?

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Post by Daniel on Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:44 pm

Cilic to beat Muller in straights.
Djokovic to beat Berdych in 5.
Federer to beat Raonic in 4
Murray to beat Querrey in 4.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:30 am

bogbrush wrote:Is that Berdych prediction for the points or for real?
For the points really....but wasn't it you who said "remember 2010"? I was not impressed by Djoko today.

Frankly? 50/50.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:09 am

Yeah, I see it similarly.

I think Berdych is a good player, good enough that Djokovic won't beat him unless he's injury free. It depends on whether he's feigning or hurt.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:38 am

I see Querrey as a potential winner today. I think he is a bit more professional than the clown we have had so far.

The crowd might play a big role again.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:03 pm

Murray has yet to play anyone who takes winning points seriously. He really should have Monfils now.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:07 pm

I consider exits of Murray and Djoko as upsets, but you never know.
Querrey is a strange player, he looks worse than he actually is. Maybe it's his hillbilly appearance.
Berdych usually fails against Djoko. So the question is: how good is Djoko really? I still haven't figured it out yet.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:51 pm

Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:01 pm

I am not concerned about Djokovic's "better" tennis. More the fact that he is going to try to throw those endless rallies and hope to see Federer fade.

You could see yesterday the stats v Mannarino, Djoko sent 95% of his shots right and left a la Bolttieri forcing as much running as possible...without Agassi's pace though.

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:10 pm

Querrey (joker), Feds, Cilic, Novak, Venus, Barty, peers, watson.

Bulge: murray, roger, cilic, novak (joker) kont, vesnina, lisicki, watson
T: querrey (joker) muller, berd, harisson, venus, barty , dellacqua
M: murray (joker) fed cilic novak peers vesnina lisicki dodig


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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:26 pm

Querrey looks a bit stiff on his legs.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:41 pm

Muller not just turning up to make the numbers!

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:42 pm

I know why Lendl always wears those dark glasses. he can sleep while pretending watching.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:44 pm

Tenez wrote:I know why Lendl always wears those dark glasses. he can sleep while pretending watching.
Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:54 pm

legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.
Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:00 pm

gallery play wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.
Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.


It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:02 pm

bogbrush wrote:Muller not just turning up to make the numbers!


Funny that some expected Muller to get Mullered by Cilic and he's the one doing the Mullering!

Go on my son is what I say to that!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:05 pm

Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too!  Yikes

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:07 pm

Daniel wrote:Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too!  Yikes
See the serving action thread. Stiff, manufactured player.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:07 pm

Daniel wrote:Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too!  Yikes


As Yoda once said to Luke when he couldn't believe it "And that is why you fail" Winking

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:10 pm

It's not over yet - but it would have been a very very brave person to have put anything on Muller after the way Cilic has been playing and the v long match Muller had.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:12 pm

Cilic definitely isn't anywhere near the player a fit Del Potro is though.  You can see he's lumbering...  all that height and he can't control it. He looks dozy and clumsy.  But he's capable of reeling games and sets off with the serve and forehand. But Muller is definitely a more complete player and he's handling this well.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:14 pm

Muller still a bit tentative on break point opportunities. Had 2 good chances there.


Intelligent shot by Muller there!  Low ball - something most tall players suck with - and Cilic duly obliges with a wide shot.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:16 pm

Cilic escaped there!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Muller blew that opportunity.  Let him off the hook.  Anyway... game on.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Powderpuff Murray has taken over. I wonder if he ever stands there and wonders what it feels like to hit a winner!

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Powderpuff Murray has taken over. I wonder if he ever stands there and wonders what it feels like to hit a winner!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:17 pm

hahahahah!  What a shot!!!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:21 pm

I would LOVE it if Murray goes out.  Imagine it.. A Querrey / Muller finalist.  What a story that is... especially Muller.

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:21 pm

Proper Keegan love it?

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:23 pm

haha  yes!  I would absolutely LOVE IT.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:25 pm

Tenez wrote:I am not concerned about Djokovic's "better" tennis. More the fact that he is going to try to throw those endless rallies and hope to see Federer fade.

You could see yesterday the stats v Mannarino, Djoko sent 95% of his shots right and left a la Bolttieri forcing as much running as possible...without Agassi's pace though.
If that's everything djoko has to offer, then we should not worry.

I still think the court's faster than last week. The ball skid more. No wonder the more typical grass players (muller, querrey) are doing well now. So Djoko will not beat Federer with his defence. And Fed's better now to shorten the rallies than 2 years ago. I guess.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:27 pm

Daniel wrote:I would LOVE it if Murray goes out.  Imagine it.. A Querrey / Muller finalist.  What a story that is... especially Muller.
Well, that's the best alternative for Fed not winning it. in fact: deep down i grant both of 'm a Wimbledon title

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:27 pm

Lovely cool play here by Muller... it's like he's a new man.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:31 pm

Well here it is.  A tie break.  Hard to pick a winner - but I'll go Muller.  He's looking cool and collected and his serve is solid.  Cilic does have a deadly serve though.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:34 pm

Come on Müller, crush him, you deserve it.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:34 pm

Muller 92% first serve points won.  Unreal!

And a killer mini break!  This is seriously impressive.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:36 pm

Müller can beat Fed too, no?

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:37 pm

legendkillar wrote:
gallery play wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.
Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.


It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.
Fog has been one of my fav for years. At some point against Murray i said to myself: Fog is the coolest player ever to pick up a racquet. Standing there freeze framed (chin up, like a roman emperor before his crowd) and a fraction later hitting a crazy FH winner. Laugh 
He's the man.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:40 pm

Jahu wrote:Müller can beat Fed too, no?
You mean would he have our permission?

Never!

But better him than the field.

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Oh bugger!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Great point by Cilic, but he was let off twice that set... first with 2 break points - then with a minibreak.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Hhahah yeah, but dont mind Muller in the final, sure Fed will win it, but a good reward for Muller crushing Nadal, a W Plate!


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Post by gallery play on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Nice setpoint by Cilic, but a bit lucky Gilles was hitting right into Marin's striking point

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Post by legendkillar on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:45 pm

gallery play wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
gallery play wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.
Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.


It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.
Fog has been one of my fav for years. At some point against Murray i said to myself: Fog is the coolest player ever to pick up a racquet. Standing there freeze framed (chin up, like a roman emperor before his crowd) and a fraction later hitting a crazy FH winner. Laugh 
He's the man.


The man is a proper dude. He could literally hit winners from a sunlounger on the baseline!

He is by far the most gifted player I've ever seen. There was a rally in that match where he is just rallying with Murray and with the most minimal effort flicked his wrist and hit a FH winner out of seemingly nothing. I wish someone like Norman would get hold of him.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:48 pm

5 setter here only good for Djoko to play a tired guy in SF.

Finish quick Muller!!!

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:00 pm

Jahu wrote:5 setter here only good for Djoko to play a tired guy in SF.

Finish quick Muller!!!
Eh? Djokovic gets Fed/Raonic

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Sorry mix up, ok than for Andy.

Don't care, I want Muller in the Final with Fed  Big Grin

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