Wimbledon Day 10 MENS QUARTER FINALS

Now that we have a good knowledge of players forms let's see who is right and who is wrong!..again

Joker double the points

Andy Murray (GBR) [20]
v
Sam Querrey (USA) [44]

Milos Raonic (CAN) [20]
v
Roger Federer (SUI) [13]

Gilles Muller (LUX) [20]
v
Marin Cilic (CRO) [10]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [22]
v
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [12]
FINISH 6-4 6-7(5) 4-3
Henri Kontinen (FIN) [3]
John Peers (AUS) [3]
v
Ryan Harrison (USA) [10]
Michael Venus (NZL) [10]

Ashleigh Barty (AUS) [8]
Casey Dellacqua (AUS) [8]
v
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) [2]
Elena Vesnina (RUS) [2]

John Peers (AUS) 5
Sabine Lisicki (GER)5
v
Marcelo Demoliner (BRA) 5
Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez (ESP)5

Henri Kontinen (FIN)7
Heather Watson (GBR)7
v
Ivan Dodig (CRO) [4]
Sania Mirza (IND) [4]

Sam Querrey (USA) [44] Joker!

Roger Federer (SUI) [13]

Marin Cilic (CRO) [10]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [22]


Ryan Harrison (USA) [10]
Michael Venus (NZL) [10]


Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) [2]
Elena Vesnina (RUS) [2]

John Peers (AUS) 5
Sabine Lisicki (GER)5

Ivan Dodig (CRO) [4]
Sania Mirza (IND) [4]

Is that Berdych prediction for the points or for real?

Cilic to beat Muller in straights.
Djokovic to beat Berdych in 5.
Federer to beat Raonic in 4
Murray to beat Querrey in 4.

bogbrush wrote:Is that Berdych prediction for the points or for real?

For the points really....but wasn't it you who said "remember 2010"? I was not impressed by Djoko today.

Frankly? 50/50.

Yeah, I see it similarly.

I think Berdych is a good player, good enough that Djokovic won't beat him unless he's injury free. It depends on whether he's feigning or hurt.

I see Querrey as a potential winner today. I think he is a bit more professional than the clown we have had so far.

The crowd might play a big role again.

Murray has yet to play anyone who takes winning points seriously. He really should have Monfils now.

I consider exits of Murray and Djoko as upsets, but you never know.
Querrey is a strange player, he looks worse than he actually is. Maybe it's his hillbilly appearance.
Berdych usually fails against Djoko. So the question is: how good is Djoko really? I still haven't figured it out yet.

Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

I am not concerned about Djokovic's "better" tennis. More the fact that he is going to try to throw those endless rallies and hope to see Federer fade.

You could see yesterday the stats v Mannarino, Djoko sent 95% of his shots right and left a la Bolttieri forcing as much running as possible...without Agassi's pace though.

Querrey (joker), Feds, Cilic, Novak, Venus, Barty, peers, watson.

Bulge: murray, roger, cilic, novak (joker) kont, vesnina, lisicki, watson
T: querrey (joker) muller, berd, harisson, venus, barty , dellacqua
M: murray (joker) fed cilic novak peers vesnina lisicki dodig

Querrey looks a bit stiff on his legs.

Muller not just turning up to make the numbers!

I know why Lendl always wears those dark glasses. he can sleep while pretending watching.

Tenez wrote:I know why Lendl always wears those dark glasses. he can sleep while pretending watching.

legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.

It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.

bogbrush wrote:Muller not just turning up to make the numbers!

Funny that some expected Muller to get Mullered by Cilic and he's the one doing the Mullering!

Go on my son is what I say to that!

Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too! 

Daniel wrote:Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too! 

See the serving action thread. Stiff, manufactured player.

Daniel wrote:Cilic bouncing the ball 15 times or more here.  Pathetic.  Come on, Muller - send him packing!  I can't believe he actually may do!  After a 6+ setter too! 

As Yoda once said to Luke when he couldn't believe it "And that is why you fail"

It's not over yet - but it would have been a very very brave person to have put anything on Muller after the way Cilic has been playing and the v long match Muller had.

Cilic definitely isn't anywhere near the player a fit Del Potro is though.  You can see he's lumbering...  all that height and he can't control it. He looks dozy and clumsy.  But he's capable of reeling games and sets off with the serve and forehand. But Muller is definitely a more complete player and he's handling this well.

Muller still a bit tentative on break point opportunities. Had 2 good chances there.


Intelligent shot by Muller there!  Low ball - something most tall players suck with - and Cilic duly obliges with a wide shot.

Cilic escaped there!

Muller blew that opportunity.  Let him off the hook.  Anyway... game on.

Powderpuff Murray has taken over. I wonder if he ever stands there and wonders what it feels like to hit a winner!

Powderpuff Murray has taken over. I wonder if he ever stands there and wonders what it feels like to hit a winner!

hahahahah!  What a shot!!!

I would LOVE it if Murray goes out.  Imagine it.. A Querrey / Muller finalist.  What a story that is... especially Muller.

Proper Keegan love it?

haha  yes!  I would absolutely LOVE IT.

Tenez wrote:I am not concerned about Djokovic's "better" tennis. More the fact that he is going to try to throw those endless rallies and hope to see Federer fade.

You could see yesterday the stats v Mannarino, Djoko sent 95% of his shots right and left a la Bolttieri forcing as much running as possible...without Agassi's pace though.

If that's everything djoko has to offer, then we should not worry.

I still think the court's faster than last week. The ball skid more. No wonder the more typical grass players (muller, querrey) are doing well now. So Djoko will not beat Federer with his defence. And Fed's better now to shorten the rallies than 2 years ago. I guess.

Daniel wrote:I would LOVE it if Murray goes out.  Imagine it.. A Querrey / Muller finalist.  What a story that is... especially Muller.

Well, that's the best alternative for Fed not winning it. in fact: deep down i grant both of 'm a Wimbledon title

Lovely cool play here by Muller... it's like he's a new man.

Well here it is.  A tie break.  Hard to pick a winner - but I'll go Muller.  He's looking cool and collected and his serve is solid.  Cilic does have a deadly serve though.

Come on Müller, crush him, you deserve it.

Muller 92% first serve points won.  Unreal!

And a killer mini break!  This is seriously impressive.

Müller can beat Fed too, no?

legendkillar wrote:

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.

It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.

Fog has been one of my fav for years. At some point against Murray i said to myself: Fog is the coolest player ever to pick up a racquet. Standing there freeze framed (chin up, like a roman emperor before his crowd) and a fraction later hitting a crazy FH winner.  
He's the man.

Jahu wrote:Müller can beat Fed too, no?

You mean would he have our permission?

Never!

But better him than the field.

Oh bugger!

Great point by Cilic, but he was let off twice that set... first with 2 break points - then with a minibreak.

Hhahah yeah, but dont mind Muller in the final, sure Fed will win it, but a good reward for Muller crushing Nadal, a W Plate!

Nice setpoint by Cilic, but a bit lucky Gilles was hitting right into Marin's striking point

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Querrey will fold.

That's what annoyed me about Foggo. He had Murray literally on the canvas and brain farted at the worst possible time.

Happens so often. Players are right on the cusp of getting the match on their terms and they blow it. So underwhelming watching an unconvincing Murray or Djokovic knowing that they turn matches on account of their opponents melting mentally with a duff shot or bad call. More so with Murray when you know a moth or symbol throws him mentally.

Agree. He wasn't beating Murray, but humiliating Murray. And forgot to win the match.
His provoking way of playing made Murray stronger.

It was a schooling until he challenged unwittingly.

Beautiful to watch. Toyed with him on the baseline and at the net. See if Fognini had an ounce of focus or drive, he'd destroy the field.

Fog has been one of my fav for years. At some point against Murray i said to myself: Fog is the coolest player ever to pick up a racquet. Standing there freeze framed (chin up, like a roman emperor before his crowd) and a fraction later hitting a crazy FH winner.  
He's the man.

The man is a proper dude. He could literally hit winners from a sunlounger on the baseline!

He is by far the most gifted player I've ever seen. There was a rally in that match where he is just rallying with Murray and with the most minimal effort flicked his wrist and hit a FH winner out of seemingly nothing. I wish someone like Norman would get hold of him.

5 setter here only good for Djoko to play a tired guy in SF.

Finish quick Muller!!!

Jahu wrote:5 setter here only good for Djoko to play a tired guy in SF.

Finish quick Muller!!!

Eh? Djokovic gets Fed/Raonic

Sorry mix up, ok than for Andy.

Don't care, I want Muller in the Final with Fed