US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Wind seems to have stopped, come on Beeeeerd!!!!!

Too late. I just want this misery to end. The misery I am going through watching this ugly match

it is slow torture, however, I can't stop hoping

This morning I was really siding with SB in his response to rotla but frankly watching that semi has changed my mind yet again. Murray is just way too happy to push the ball...and then goes for a pacy shot when 40/0 up.

Djoko v Ferrer will see a faster pace for sure.

Tenez wrote:This morning I was really siding with SB in his response to rotla but frankly watching that semi has changed my mind yet again. Murray is just way too happy to push the ball...and then goes for a pacy shot when 40/0 up.

Djoko v Ferrer will see a faster pace for sure.

let me know when you start siding with me.

. Time to log off. I gave this match enough time, its just isn't getting any better.

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Wind seems to have stopped, come on Beeeeerd!!!!!

Too late. I just want this misery to end. The misery I am going through watching this ugly match

it is slow torture, however, I can't stop hoping

See ? GO BEEEEEERRRRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to see the 5th set

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:This morning I was really siding with SB in his response to rotla but frankly watching that semi has changed my mind yet again. Murray is just way too happy to push the ball...and then goes for a pacy shot when 40/0 up.

Djoko v Ferrer will see a faster pace for sure.

let me know when you start siding with me.

I'll probably be siding with Nole on Sunday!

Tenez wrote:This morning I was really siding with SB in his response to rotla but frankly watching that semi has changed my mind yet again. Murray is just way too happy to push the ball...and then goes for a pacy shot when 40/0 up.

Djoko v Ferrer will see a faster pace for sure.

Once a pusher, always a pusher! Yo know tennis history better then me, has there ever been a counter-puncher that has transformed into an attacking player?
Or vice versa.
Shots are just cosmetics, The game comes from inside. I was actually thinking about it today, how tennis game shows character without fault. You simply cannot hide anything on the court. Just look at Nadal, bullying beast on the court, "humble boy" off it.

Murray's loud "Come ons! after opponents UEs is a massive turn-off.

noleisthebest wrote:Once a pusher, always a pusher! Yo know tennis history better then me, has there ever been a counter-puncher that has transformed into an attacking player?
Or vice versa.
Shots are just cosmetics, The game comes from inside. I was actually thinking about it today, how tennis game shows character without fault. You simply cannot hide anything on the court. Just look at Nadal, bullying beast on the court, "humble boy" off it.

I can side with that!

Well, that's a start!

He is really trying to mess up the rhythm shouting way after hitting the ball. That shoudl not be allowed.

Berd has heard my spirited, faithful call

Tenez wrote:He is really trying to mess up the rhythm shouting way after hitting the ball. That shoudl not be allowed.

I know, it's pathetic. Lendl has taught him all dirty tricks...

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:He is really trying to mess up the rhythm shouting way after hitting the ball. That shoudl not be allowed.

I know, it's pathetic. Lendl has taught him all dirty tricks...

Nope Lendl was actually a very fair player.

Tenez wrote:I don't even trust HE in the USO!

Speaking of "trust", what did you make of those 11 double faults Karlovic suffered against Murray?
Hasn't everything gone strangely quiet after Lloyd barked off the threat on behalf of LTA..

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:I don't even trust HE in the USO!

Speaking of "trust", what did yo make of those 11 double faults Karlovic suffered against Murray?
Hasn't everything gone strangely quiet after Lloyd barked off the threat on behalf of LTA..

Yes, terrible piece of "engineering" once again.

Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

gallery play wrote:Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

you mean winning ugly...

brave play from Bird COME OOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah dirty/ugly whatever, that's the one

gallery play wrote:Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

But it's in Murray guts as well. Brad trained Agassi and did not turn him into a pusher.

My view on this: Murray must win this, if not: the final is a foregone conclusion AND boring as hell

gallery play wrote:yeah dirty/ugly whatever, that's the one

yes heard of it, I was even recommended it, but I don't think I'll waste my time on it.

gallery play wrote:My view on this: Murray must win this, if not: the final is a foregone conclusion AND boring as hell

I wouldn't mind a Bird Nole final.Certainly much better tennis.

This Wozniacki Sweet as Turkish delight ad is KILLING MEEEEEEEEEEE

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

But it's in Murray guts as well. Brad trained Agassi and did not turn him into a pusher.

But Agassi was no longer a youngster then.

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:My view on this: Murray must win this, if not: the final is a foregone conclusion AND boring as hell

I wouldn't mind a Bird Nole final.Certainly much better tennis.

I bet you wouldn't, you'll be having a relaxed night

gallery play wrote:My view on this: Murray must win this, if not: the final is a foregone conclusion AND boring as hell

It's a good point!

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:My view on this: Murray must win this, if not: the final is a foregone conclusion AND boring as hell

I wouldn't mind a Bird Nole final.Certainly much better tennis.

I bet you wouldn't, you'll be having a relaxed night

It would be enjoyable whoever wins.

gallery play wrote:

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

But it's in Murray guts as well. Brad trained Agassi and did not turn him into a pusher.

But Agassi was no longer a youngster then.

Murray was a pusher even before Gilbert. As NITB says, it's in the personality of the player.

Try to imagine a Murray Ferrer final

I am shared between wanting Berdych to win but also for having a better final with Murray/Djoko.

Tenez, if this goes to 5 sets, do you think Berd will have enough in the tank to last the match?

Replay the point! I love you Pascal-Maria!

So what's the deal here, this easily could go on for another hour and the final is scheduled in 24 hours. Djoko-Fer are still in the locker...one of them could end up with less than 18 hours prep time...Are they going to stick with the current schedule?

Berdych is doing so well to serve with such a high throw.

gallery play wrote:So what's the deal here, this easily could go on for another hour and the final is scheduled in 24 hours. Djoko-Fer are still in the locker...one of them could end up with less than 18 hours prep time...Are they going to stick with the current schedule?

Apparently yes. No interview after the Murray/Berd match. No throwing of signed balls into the crowd. The second semi is on within 3mn of the end of this one.

gallery play wrote:So what's the deal here, this easily could go on for another hour and the final is scheduled in 24 hours. Djoko-Fer are still in the locker...one of them could end up with less than 18 hours prep time...Are they going to stick with the current schedule?

Of course they are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3c4o-7PH44

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:Surely Gilbert taught him all that. You know he's the author of the book; "winning dirty"?
Gilbert should not be allowed to train youngsters, it takes years to recover from that. Murray is the living proof

But it's in Murray guts as well. Brad trained Agassi and did not turn him into a pusher.

But Agassi was no longer a youngster then.

Murray was a pusher even before Gilbert. As NITB says, it's in the personality of the player.

Sorry T, i believe to a certain extend in coaching
(BTW: you too as demonstrated by your view on Tony)

Anyway: Good Tiebreak!

YUK!

You were right! No interview, no nothing ! they ARE desperate

Glad Murray won. I'll support him tomorrow.
Do i get banned now?

Yes but Toni really made Rafa from scratch.

Of course Brad exacerbated Murray's defensive skills but Murray was always a pusher. I perfectly remember quite a few of his matches before Brad.

Some hate losing a point (Murray, Nadal and Djoko), Others love to win points (Federer, Berdych, etc...) and no coach can change that.

gallery play wrote:Glad Murray won. I'll support him tomorrow.
Do i get banned now?

No, you just like Murray's pushing tennis, nothing wrong with that

BTW, why Murray and not Novak?

There is only 90 minutes maximum before the storm hits.

Djokovic to serve.

gallery play wrote:Glad Murray won. I'll support him tomorrow.
Do i get banned now?

Frankly a Murray Djoko final, I might ban myself from it!

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:Glad Murray won. I'll support him tomorrow.
Do i get banned now?

Frankly a Murray Djoko final, I might ban myself from it!

why?

Berdych blew the 4th set tie break
Murray has really improved a lot this season,theres such a massive difference since Lendl came on board

Nole time