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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:51 pm

Just watched the first set of Fed/Nadal and it's comical how stiff Fed was. More comical to here Nadal say he played "fantastic". Fed looks like he has an umbrella stuck up his..... Yet he coudl have been a tighter set had he won his game from 40/15 up. Though I suspect he was feeling really bad there as he rushed to teh net to shorten the points.


Yes some mentioned here, there is nothing to draw from Nadal's form on this match. Let's see whether he can beat Berdych. It shoudl be a tight match.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:18 pm

It's started !!!

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:20 pm

Berd serving and already looks like he's choking ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 563610107

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:34 pm

Berd going for it, good ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 4052418255

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:36 pm

And the horror Yank is commentating again, worse than ever, now he tells us that Ellison and Nadal share the same love for water ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 1198964535

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Post by luvsports! Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:45 pm

Nadal breaks Sad. Man this is turning into an awful day for sport.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:46 pm

Why, did Leeds lose?

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Post by luvsports! Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:53 pm

leeds lost at home to our rivals huddersfield, england got hammered in the 6 nations decider by wales and lost the championship and now this! awful day

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:02 pm

Nadal really hits a bit flatter than before. It is pity that that ball when Berd coming to the net was not better, 15:40 would be a good chance. Berd wants it too much, which is contraproductive.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:04 pm

paulcz wrote:Nadal really hits a bit flatter than before. It is pity that that ball when Berd coming to the net was not better, 15:40 would be a good chance. Berd wants it too much, which is contraproductive.

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:05 pm

Nadal on return about 5meters behind the BL ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 2786941968

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:06 pm

luvsports! wrote:leeds lost at home to our rivals huddersfield, england got hammered in the 6 nations decider by wales and lost the championship and now this! awful day

Is that all? ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 123628122

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Post by luvsports! Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:08 pm

please don't it hurts too much.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:08 pm

paulcz wrote:Nadal on return about 5meters behind the BL ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 2786941968

I'll die and I won't get that guy.....one of the mysteries of this world, like the leaning tower of Pisa.....defying all laws of logic...

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:10 pm

The only thing Berd needs to do is pretend that Nadal is Federer....he seems scared of Nadal.


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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:12 pm

Berd needs to keep his head calm, then he has a chance

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:13 pm

Nadal would be quite comfortable on a tennis court the size of a football pitch.....

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:21 pm

Has Nadal EVER had a lapse of concentration......

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:31 pm

Berd plays 80% with his 2nd serve and still hangs. He needs to bash it when he has a chance, running is not his area.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Break point for Berd: TA-DAAAA!!!!!

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:36 pm

Finally, Berd breaks Morrrrriiiiiiiiiibunduuuuuuuuuusss

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:37 pm

And now he's going to choke it away..COME ON BERD, it's now or never!!!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:39 pm

Berd, you IDIOT!!!!!!!! ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 2786941968

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:40 pm

It is a pity, Berd too stuborn, he did not change on his serve.

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:42 pm

paulcz wrote:Nadal really hits a bit flatter than before. It is pity that that ball when Berd coming to the net was not better, 15:40 would be a good chance. Berd wants it too much, which is contraproductive.

Nadal hits harder than Berdych actually but that is essentially cause he has all the time in teh world to time it from 5m behind teh baseline.

Sorry but Berdych's mental is as tiny as his legs are huge.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:45 pm

Come on Berd, you can do it, just let rip!!!!!!!!

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:45 pm

No chance for berdych. He had it but choked it .

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:46 pm

The umpire is a prime moron!

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:46 pm

Having said that Nadal's loopy returns are still reaching some new heighth.

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:51 pm

very petit mental strength from Berdych....4 games in a row? without Nadal playing outsdanding? Not good.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:54 pm

What an easy over head smash miss Doh

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:55 pm

COME ON BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 273093567

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:57 pm

And again: COME OOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 3559488474 ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 3559488474 ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 3559488474

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Post by luvsports! Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:58 pm

match point

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:59 pm

Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:01 pm

Why are we watching this? Berdych is terrible. He doesn;t want to win. He's been paid by Larry to let Rafa go.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:01 pm

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:03 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

he,he, make yourself an espresso, it ain't going to last ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 4006036031

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:03 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

I woudl like Djoko to win on this occasion for the obvious reason. Djoko would be the benchmark to measure how far Nadal is from the top.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:03 pm

Nadal won. Berd will be the same. I just don't know how he manage s to keep his nerve against Fed

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:04 pm

Heavily injured Moribundus standing 5meters behind BL probably due to his patella takes it. Berd played a good match, but his worse variaty on serve and serve consistency cost him at least one set. It is obvious that Moribundus must have a big problem with knees ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 364988687

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:06 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Nadal won. Berd will be the same. I just don't know how he manage s to keep his nerve against Fed
To be fair, is not that a bit the similar to Fed ATP 1000: Indian Wells - Page 9 1071211947

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:10 pm

Just saw highlights from Nole Tsonga match, Nole in fine form...

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:10 pm

[quote="Tenez"]Why are we watching this? Berdych is terrible. He doesn;t want to win. He's been paid by Larry to let Rafa go.[/quote
If Berd was terrible, then I do not know what Fed was, I do not mean only their last session.

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:12 pm

Let's not forget that this court is "very slow clay" as Federer mentioned.

Amazing how popular is Nadal still. People simply love him. His tennis is more watchable now than then except for those ridiculous high moonballs and he still serves tons of them, especially on the return.

Berdych is unfortunately not a very skilled played. No middle court game, very robotic, anticipates badly, I think it is fair to say his mind is weak. He has a good FH but Nadal's was actually better today. He can create the same pace as Berdych but with enough spin to it much more secure than Berdych and that is thanks to his huge LH.

Yet Berdych had his chance but very difficult to time Nadal's balls on those courts with this heat...so he has an excuse there for sure. But still with a bit of composure he shoudl have won that 2nd set convincingly.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:13 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

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No no i can't make much noise. Watching tv on mute. Mrs. Rotla is sleeping in thenext room. I'm toast if she wakes up.

Whoever wins i just want a good match

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:16 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

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No no i can't make much noise. Watching tv on mute. Mrs. Rotla is sleeping in thenext room. I'm toast if she wakes up.

Whoever wins i just want a good match

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Post by gallery play Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:20 pm

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raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its better it gets over soon. Djoko vs delpo is what m waiting for. Its 2 30 am here

I woudl like Djoko to win on this occasion for the obvious reason. Djoko would be the benchmark to measure how far Nadal is from the top.

To be honest T, regardless what happens tomorrow, i've seen enough. For me he's favorite to win RG and a couple of other clay tournaments. He's now playing a game he used to be not very confortable with (hence the UE's) but still he wins. So you can imagine what happens when he's on a roll on clay. This puts all the bullsh!t team Nadal has put on us for all those months in perspective. I reckon he has been training for at least 5 months, on his fitness and fine tuning this more aggressive game. And of course spending time on his knee-friendly jet ski. Lance is a sincere man compared with Nadal

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Post by Tenez Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:22 pm

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Tenez wrote:Why are we watching this? Berdych is terrible. He doesn;t want to win. He's been paid by Larry to let Rafa go.[/quote
If Berd was terrible, then I do not know what Fed was, I do not mean only their last session.

I woudl say essentially what I said above. Fed is very strong mentally and starts very well v Rafa until he tires. Berdych starts badly and chokes before he gets tired (especially today as there wasn't many long rallies). He started to play his game in that very last game when he had nothing to lose...except when he had everything to lose (in those BPs) as he coudl not return a serve in. He is not a skilled players....he has a big FH like ALL tall guys but besides that? Not sure.

I think Fed won something like 10 matches in a row until his got back problem (2008) and a few of those wins Berdych got were again from MPs down....when he had nothing to lose.

I know you like him and you are a fan. I am not trying to criticise him for free. I believe I am just saying what we coudl all observe.

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Post by paulcz Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:24 pm

Tenez wrote:Let's not forget that this court is "very slow clay" as Federer mentioned.

Amazing how popular is Nadal still. People simply love him. His tennis is more watchable now than then except for those ridiculous high moonballs and he still serves tons of them, especially on the return.

Berdych is unfortunately not a very skilled played. No middle court game, very robotic, anticipates badly, I think it is fair to say his mind is weak. He has a good FH but Nadal's was actually better today. He can create the same pace as Berdych but with enough spin to it much more secure than Berdych and that is thanks to his huge LH.

Yet Berdych had his chance but very difficult to time Nadal's balls on those courts with this heat...so he has an excuse there for sure. But still with a bit of composure he shoudl have won that 2nd set convincingly.
It is still the same, there is no player on the tour who can outplay Moribundus from BL except Nole. Moribundus moves better than before, understood that he can not play only passively to compete with Nole. He has improved his serve and calmed his head. At the moment (except really fast surface, not sure about grass) Moribundus is only in hands of Nole.

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