WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London

He also ups his game in TB. He makes more effort on teh important point. That was particularly obvious when recovering the bp of the TB at 2/3 down I believe.

I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

WTF 2005 final: second set TB
Rome 2006 final: first set TB
Wimbledon 2008 final: fourth set TB
RG 2009 final: second set TB

To name a few

Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Not really. Murray's one dimensional energy non-efficient game has a short expiry time.

Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Like he stole that break....from 40/0 up Murray.

I knew Murray'd run out of steam after one set. He just isn't built to bash the entire match.

Tenez wrote:

Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Like he stole that break....from 40/0 up Murray.

Exactly..Murray looks like he is completely control one minute and then a few seconds later Federer has completely out foxed him

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

I still think Fed is missing many shots

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

This is exactly what the commentators on Sky say.

Murray's gone off the boil as they say here.

Tenez wrote:

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

This is exactly what the commentators on Sky say.

I dont have Sky, made it up myself

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.
The game he is playing is just very artificial, that's the problem. He is building it around hard-hitting with no after-thought and zero finesse. So when he runs out of steam there's nothing to fall back on, his timing goes and with it this fragile self-belief.
He believes more in his fitness (which is deceptive) than forming a weapon and building his game around it.

He is still the best in the world. Djoko needs 3 sets and lots of running to beat Murray.

Tenez wrote:He is still the best in the world. Djoko needs 3 sets and lots of running to beat Murray.

We'll see who the best is tomorrow... Correction! YOU'll see it

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.

You're so loyal to your man, too loyal imo, sorry

Murray should have won in Shanghai and could have won this week, he's hardly the underdog against Djoko

Sweet.

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.

You're so loyal to your man, too loyal imo, sorry

Murray should have won in Shanghai and could have won this week, he's hardly the underdog against Djoko

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

Fed was bound to self destroy tonight, but Murray did

ah well, Fed played a solid second set. He deserved it in the end

Federer reminding Murray of his place again...
And we all thought Federer would be mince meat....

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:Murray in 2 comfy sets. 3 and 4 or 3 and 5?

Why comfy?

still haven't answered this one

Robbie going for Nole in t 3 tomorrow

It's looks like the crowd is still very much split between Murray and Fed.

The handshake did not seem very friendly from Andy, did it?

gp, thanks for your notes, but don't give my questions another thought. I think I figured every thing all out myself.

Yesterday was merely a practice session. Like I said, Roger knew he has a bigger fish to fry today, and the biggest fish tomorrow.


Everybody, drinks on me tonight.

PS noley, I can't believe he did better than your prediction.

Ruds: "He is the best ever".

noleisthebest wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:Murray in 2 comfy sets. 3 and 4 or 3 and 5?

Why comfy?

still haven't answered this one

Yes I was wrong though I was right for a bit....untill Fed uped his game and Murray self-destroyed.

Tenez wrote:It's looks like the crowd is still very much split between Murray and Fed.

The handshake did not seem very friendly from Andy, did it?

I thought Fed had louder support.
It's going to be tough tomorrow. Noleisthebest against the Rest....They don't know what's in store for them he,he, can't wait

Andy hit 6 more Ue's than Fed. I think he'll ask Lendl a question or two about this stat

SR wrote:

PS noley, I can't believe he did better than your prediction.

I don't mind at all, just got the measure of Murray on Wednesday, so not surprised, Fed played well, I knew he wanted to set things straight, and at the end of the day when motivated properly, the better player always wins

What a glorious match-up worthy of the final tomorrow. Can't have asked for more, both players in similar form and just as hungry as each other.

It's gong to be one fantastic match and I predict Nole to win in 3 sets

noleisthebest wrote:

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here

Hope Fed can play well tomorrow. Djoko returns better than Murray but his BH is hurting less. Djoko's FH is not hurting as much but like Nadal's, it forces his opponent into some running. This is what makes djoko win all those 3 setters and 5 stters.

This went so much better than I expected. Fed's BH held up quite well today and Murray played quite below par. All in all, it was enough for a comfy victory - but in the opposite direction than I expected.

Now I am even more annoyed that the final is on Monday.

Very good match from the Maestro!

Here to the best final we could have hoped for!

kudos nitb for the correct prediction.
why did we ever doubt him haha

GETTTT IN FEDS WAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SOOO HAPPY!!!
victory dance time again

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here

Oh stop it GP!!!!!


It's not fair of you to try and muddle me up .

luvsports! wrote:kudos nitb for the correct prediction.
why did we ever doubt him haha

GETTTT IN FEDS WAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SOOO HAPPY!!!
victory dance time again

I'm happy you are ALL happy

sphairistike wrote:Very good match from the Maestro!

Here to the best final we could have hoped for!

Absolutely, Fed's magic against Nole's belief....NO PASARAN !

time to put my favorite song of all time on.

BABA O'RILEY!!!!! WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

summerblues wrote:This went so much better than I expected. Fed's BH held up quite well today and Murray played quite below par. All in all, it was enough for a comfy victory - but in the opposite direction than I expected.

Now I am even more annoyed that the final is on Monday.

It's 8 PM UK time, so all you need to do is have a very looooooooong lunch break....you know....the French style

luvsports! wrote:time to put my favorite song of all time on.

BABA O'RILEY!!!!! WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I take it your dad taught you a thing or two......

he brought me up on the BOSSS

but no that came from rediscovering the bugs life trailor back when i was a weee nipper

Tenez wrote:Hope Fed can play well tomorrow. Djoko returns better than Murray but his BH is hurting less. Djoko's FH is not hurting as much but like Nadal's, it forces his opponent into some running. This is what makes djoko win all those 3 setters and 5 stters.

Nole won't wither and give up like Murray. He'll put up a first class fight to the end. It will be a real battle of wills. Tennis at its best.
Fed's pacy arsenal vs Nole's defending & aggressive grit.

the magic wand vs brutal dominance

luvsports! wrote:he brought me up on the BOSSS

but no that came from rediscovering the bugs life trailor back when i was a weee nipper

Say a big hello to your dad, they played Boss in O2 last night (Dancing in the dark), I hope I hear it tomorrow, it would just make my night complete!

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here

Oh stop it GP!!!!!


It's not fair of you to try and muddle me up .

ah, i know you can handle it nitb
you'll have the last last laugh tomorrow, i think..

gallery play wrote:

ah, i know you can handle it nitb
you'll have the last last laugh tomorrow, i think..

It's harder than you think, but I can't say more

luvsports! wrote:the magic wand vs brutal dominance

For your dad and a few others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs

HAHA!!! LUV IT!

deffo in my top 10 bruce

enjoy it 2mo bud whatever the result!