Who Would You Pay To Watch?

Novak Djokovic says he'd pay to watch Monfils:

http://sport24.lefigaro.fr/tennis/atp/fil-info/djokovic-adore-voir-jouer-monfils-798307


As for me, it would have to be Dolgopolov, Federer, Paire, Fognini on clay & Rublev
(Monfls, Stan & Gulbis on a good day, Simon in a slam fnal and...Nole lift RG trophy!)








Who would you pay to watch?

Feds Feds FEDS!
Brown, Stan, Dolgo, Thiem, maybe Monfils.

Nole lifting a trophy against anyone and out of this against Fed especially. The other are one level of interest lower.

luvsports! wrote:Feds Feds FEDS!
Brown, Stan, Dolgo, Thiem, maybe Monfils.

I forgot Brown!!!

Definitely Brown on a good day.

For me really it's older players with mature timing that can do everything with the ball and enjoy themselves, play for the soul.

Of the young ones only Rubi, because he has something very special about him.

paulcz wrote:Nole lifting a trophy against anyone and out of this against Fed especially. The other are one level of interest lower.

Hehe, didn't know this Paul!
Any particular reason?

I'd pay to see Djoko get beaten! It needs a well executed performance to beat him...doesn't matter who does it.

I'd pay to see Nadal get beaten too...but nowadays, I don't need to!

noleisthebest wrote:

paulcz wrote:Nole lifting a trophy against anyone and out of this against Fed especially. The other are one level of interest lower.

Hehe, didn't know this Paul!
Any particular reason?

Yes, of course. I don't believe that there will be another such a dominant player from a similar small country, which was hugely destroyed by war and former regime. The player who has achieved his success by his enormous effort and who is really grateful to all people who have been supporiting him on his way on top. The player who plays mostly against the crowds, but stays positive, who is intelligent and entertaining, who strongly believes in his team and still try to improve his game. To record it, Nole is a nice player without limits.

From beginning:

McEnroe, Borg, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Sampras, Roddick, Laver, Santoro, Del Potro, Agassi, Tsonga

Of upcoming:

Thiem, Kyrgios.

paulcz wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

paulcz wrote:Nole lifting a trophy against anyone and out of this against Fed especially. The other are one level of interest lower.

Hehe, didn't know this Paul!
Any particular reason?

Yes, of course. I don't believe that there will be another such a dominant player from a similar small country, which was hugely destroyed by war and former regime. The player who has achieved his success by his enormous effort and who is really grateful to all people who have been supporiting him on his way on top. The player who plays mostly against the crowds, but stays positive, who is intelligent and entertaining, who strongly believes in his team and still try to improve his game. To record it, Nole is a nice player without limits.

Most people can't appreciate it, and in a way, it's their loss.

I am happy for Nole.
He has done a lot of good for Serbia, restoring people's pride after years of humiliation from NATO.
When my dad woke up from his post op anaesthetics a few years ago, his first question was: "Did Nole win?"

paulcz wrote:Yes, of course. I don't believe that there will be another such a dominant player from a similar small country, which was hugely destroyed by war and former regime. The player who has achieved his success by his enormous effort and who is really grateful to all people who have been supporiting him on his way on top. The player who plays mostly against the crowds, but stays positive, who is intelligent and entertaining, who strongly believes in his team and still try to improve his game. To record it, Nole is a nice player without limits.

This explains why you want him to succeed although I will never understand how people can support a player because of his country of origine, it's not like any of them chose it themselves... Well, Djokovic did chose Monaco when he had the chance.

It does not explain however, why against Fed specifically. I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want him to beat Fed specifically, but none of them good. In my eyes that rivalry has run its course and lost its interest.

Tenez wrote:I'd pay to see Djoko get beaten! It needs a well executed performance to beat him...doesn't matter who does it.

Seconded, but I'll be more specific. I want to see him get beaten by players younger than him. I'd love to see them step it up, will be very exciting. Sick and tired of seeing the same players in SFs/Fs/Ws for close to 10 years. Enough already.

Federer is the one exception for me where I won't be tired of watching. Too graceful.

Autumnleaf wrote:

paulcz wrote:Yes, of course. I don't believe that there will be another such a dominant player from a similar small country, which was hugely destroyed by war and former regime. The player who has achieved his success by his enormous effort and who is really grateful to all people who have been supporiting him on his way on top. The player who plays mostly against the crowds, but stays positive, who is intelligent and entertaining, who strongly believes in his team and still try to improve his game. To record it, Nole is a nice player without limits.

This explains why you want him to succeed although I will never understand how people can support a player because of his country of origine, it's not like any of them chose it themselves... Well, Djokovic did chose Monaco when he had the chance.

It does not explain however, why against Fed specifically. I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want him to beat Fed specifically, but none of them good. In my eyes that rivalry has run its course and lost its interest.

You misread the meaning of my post completely. It is not about a country, but it is about the life values that I believe in. I do prefer a hard work, frankness and positive spirit against glitz, self-importance and hypocrisy.
I think that that answer is the clear explanation to your second question as well.

To understand better my reason of rooting for Novak, it is based on his personality more than on his elegance.

If you are the real tennis then I dont understand why you say that Novak & Fed rivalry lost its interest. They both are the best current tennis players, play different kind of styles and both represent reverse values, which I wrote about. There is nothing better from all matchups nowadays.

[quote="paulcz"]

Autumnleaf wrote:
If you are the real tennis then I dont understand why you say that Novak & Fed rivalry lost its interest. They both are the best current tennis players, play different kind of styles and both represent reverse values, which I wrote about. There is nothing better from all matchups nowadays.

Easy, completely different generation. Learnt with different technology, played on different surfaces than what Fed learnt on and despite that Djoko had to wait a very long timne before overtaking Fed, and he probably wins because he faces Djoko at the end of the tournament when a 34yo feels like he is 43.

paulcz wrote:

Autumnleaf wrote:

paulcz wrote:Yes, of course. I don't believe that there will be another such a dominant player from a similar small country, which was hugely destroyed by war and former regime. The player who has achieved his success by his enormous effort and who is really grateful to all people who have been supporiting him on his way on top. The player who plays mostly against the crowds, but stays positive, who is intelligent and entertaining, who strongly believes in his team and still try to improve his game. To record it, Nole is a nice player without limits.

This explains why you want him to succeed although I will never understand how people can support a player because of his country of origine, it's not like any of them chose it themselves... Well, Djokovic did chose Monaco when he had the chance.

It does not explain however, why against Fed specifically. I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want him to beat Fed specifically, but none of them good. In my eyes that rivalry has run its course and lost its interest.

You misread the meaning of my post completely.  It is not about a country, but it is about the life values that I believe in. I do prefer a hard work, frankness and positive spirit against glitz, self-importance and hypocrisy.
I think that that answer is the clear explanation to your second question as well.

To understand better my reason of rooting for Novak, it is based on his personality more than on his elegance.

If you are the real tennis then I dont understand why you say that Novak & Fed rivalry lost its interest. They both are the best current tennis players, play different kind of styles and both represent reverse values, which I wrote about. There is nothing better from all matchups nowadays.

Well said!

noleisthebest wrote:
You misread the meaning of my post completely.  It is not about a country, but it is about the life values that I believe in. [b]I do prefer a hard work, frankness and positive spirit against glitz, self-importance and hypocrisy. [/b]

Hard working is great but I don;t watch tennis to see hard working people succeed, thanks to fitness. I watch tennis to see the talent in us.

This forum is actually quiet in the controversy side of things compared with the noisy neighbour.

I'd pay to watch Fognini. Wonderful ball striker and quite the personality. The one player that does have the total package in that regard. 

Thiem and Goffin for sure.

Yes LK. It's quiet and nice here. Cool...no tennis hence no comment.

With Federer shading away, I can't see how to keep posters interested. We'll see.

legendkillar wrote:This forum is actually quiet in the controversy side of things compared with the noisy neighbour.

I'd pay to watch Fognini. Wonderful ball striker and quite the personality. The one player that does have the total package in that regard. 

Thiem and Goffin for sure.

Hehe, we have discussed all those "controversies" 6-7 years ago....when they were a proper taboo and were  banned for it: time between the points, draw rigging, silent bans...


"Controversies" are now passe...

Time to talk about tennis, the new era that is emerging.

To see how the next generation will take over.

How tennis will survive Fed's and Nadal's departure...

How Nole's tennis can/will be beaten.

Will TDs change anything regarding playing conditions...

They are the interesting topics now, I think.

The only temaining controversy is this selective, political doping singling out of Russians (and come the Olympics Chinese etc)

I expect it to be quite a hot topic before and during Rio.

Well interestingly I watched the football writers last night and they were discussing about doping in the wake of the 150 names. They were sceptical about the number given the doctor had a varied and inflated opinion of himself that does call into account his creditability, however they did agree that athletes push the boundaries on what is legal/illegal and that more cases similar to the Sharapova one will start coming to light and they even thought testing in tennis was good! Lol. In comparison with football yes, but more can be done.

It was an interesting piece.

I didn't watch it, but read yesterday Ibrahimovic doped while playing for Inter Milan.

Assume all professional athletes dope to so e extent, depending on who they can afgord, the most interesting thing is who and how gets "caught".

It's pure politics.

Tenez wrote:Yes LK. It's quiet and nice here. Cool...no tennis hence no comment.

With Federer shading away, I can't see how to keep posters interested. We'll see.

Maestro has been practising  in Monte Carlo for over a week I think. I hope he plays.

Can't wait for it to start!

If you know 150 of your colleagues are doping, sure you are agoing to dope as well.

I think 99% of them do. Part of an athlete job is to dope discretely. You would have to be stupid to remain clean knowing there are millions at stake and and everybody else (which is the spirit they are all in).

If a million dollars falls from a plane by accident, you will see the crowd below how they rush on it....not many will think "oh I don't deserve that money so I will leave it there or I collect it and try to find teh owner....espeically if all the others around are rushing to grasp the notes.

Now imagine if you work hard and deserve that money but some are stealing it from you cause they are cheating. You will have no choice than to do the same. That is exactly the spirit athletes are in.