Wimbledon Day 13, Sunday 14th July

Now we know with certainty that it is not a good thing for Fed to have two MPs at 40-15 in a deciding set of a slam against Nole.  That is clearly a losing position right there.

When I asked for it not to be the USO 11 repeat before that game even started, I had no idea how nicely they would reproduce it.  LOL.

Don't know whether I should laugh or cry.

As I said, I kind of feel - and I hate to say it - that Nole deserved it more just by hanging in there even if his game was not quite working.  Fed's game was mostly working well, and yet he failed all the big tests.

Commiserations to Fed fans, I know how it feels.
Congrats to NITB

bogbrush wrote:If it can be made any worse, I wonder if this might be the end.

Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

Which digs? I had switched over to the cricket before the trophy ceremony.

What digs, I was watching the cricket.

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

Nole isn't the best, because Nole is way behind Federer in almost all records.   So you come back when that's not the case   Also, Djok will be gone by 35.

And nole was pushed ona  slow surface to winning in a shite tie break v a 38 year old. 

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

grow some balls BB and take it on the chin!

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

Daniel2 wrote:Nole isn't the best, because Nole is way behind Federer in almost all records.   So you come back when that's not the case   Also, Djok will be gone by 35.

dream on baby...

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

don't worry SB I can take them all on

bring it OOOOON!!!!!

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

don't worry SB I can take them all on

bring it OOOOON!!!!!

Well, I am sure today you do.

summerblues wrote:Now we know with certainty that it is not a good thing for Fed to have two MPs at 40-15 in a deciding set of a slam against Nole.  That is clearly a losing position right there.

When I asked for it not to be the USO 11 repeat before that game even started, I had no idea how nicely they would reproduce it.  LOL.

Don't know whether I should laugh or cry.

As I said, I kind of feel - and I hate to say it - that Nole deserved it more just by hanging in there even if his game was not quite working.  Fed's game was mostly working well, and yet he failed all the big tests.

Just smile me old friend, just smile

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

grow some balls BB and take it on the chin!

Nitb, you don’t get it do you?

It’s not about “taking” anything, it’s about you going out of your way to wave in people’s faces.

Anyway, knock yourself out.

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

don't worry SB I can take them all on

bring it OOOOON!!!!!

Well, I am sure today you do.

oooh it's sweeet!

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

Yeah I get you, if it was Rafa making that speech he’d be repeating Roger you are the greatest for sure, every 5 seconds in his broken English.
Reading the quotes on BBC now, it did seem like a bit of a reminder to Fed that if Djokovic plays till 37 he could well overtake slam record.

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

There’s no war if it’s not made. I guess it’s just her way, I should make allowances.

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

grow some balls BB and take it on the chin!

Nitb, you don’t get it do you?

It’s not about “taking” anything, it’s about you going out of your way to wave in people’s faces.

Anyway, knock yourself out.

I'll be having the last laugh when years go by and it becomes clear to this djok nob rider that he's not going to equal fed's main records, let alone exceed them. And I'll be here as vindictive as you've ever seen.     You made a big mistake today, NITB.  Have fun.

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

Hah.  The first one and the last are digs.  The second is what it is.  He won - TB or otherwise does not matter.  We did not feel it unfair that Fed kept 2008 final close only through TBs either.

It’s a shame if he made a dig because I have always rather liked him.

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

btw, the best speech ever!
eso the kick in the nuts with hoping to last till 37, Nole is not only the best, he is the genius!

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

Classless. 

They don’t have any tradition of it there,it’s always been evident from the parents so to be fair he’s just a product of that.

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

Classless. 

They don’t have any tradition of it there,it’s always been evident from the parents so to be fair he’s just a product of that.

stick your class where it don't shine and bow to a true champion who won against all odds, crowd and 15000 pink shirts in the crowd. The guy is a ROCK!!!!!

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

Hah.  The first one and the last are digs.  The second is what it is.  He won - TB or otherwise does not matter.  We did not feel it unfair that Fed kept 2008 final close only through TBs either.

Indeed. Digs, at a moment like that.

What a wanker.

noleisthebest wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:
of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

btw, the best speech ever!
eso the kick in the nuts with hoping to last till 37, Nole is not only the best, he is the genius!

Maybe considering it was clear Fed was gutted, he could have been a bit more considerate?

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

Classless. 

They don’t have any tradition of it there,it’s always been evident from the parents so to be fair he’s just a product of that.

stick your class where it don't shine and bow to a true champion who won against all odds, crowd and 15000 pink shirts in the crowd. The guy is  a ROCK!!!!!

Like I say, if you don’t understand what it is I certainly won’t be able to explain it to you.

Nadal has a chance of equaling or beating Fed's slam haul (with the aid of so many FO) but I get most pleasure in knowing Novak won't.

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

There’s no war if it’s not made. I guess it’s just her way, I should make allowances.

Oh BB what do you want her to do?  Keep it low just so that we can grieve in quiet and peace?  Nobody died.  A boring dull player won Wimbledon.  Worse things happen every day.

Daniel2 wrote:Nadal has a chance of equaling or beating Fed's slam haul (with the aid of so many FO) but I get most pleasure in knowing Novak won't.

Nadal seems to be ageing tho, his movement is bad now as you’d expect. However Djokovic seems as fast as ever??
Honestly I think Djokovic is a huge threat to Feds slam count, I don’t think Rafa is.

I think Federer’s shoulders should be broad enough to take ‘digs’ like that. Why should Djoko acknowledge Federer as the best ever when, as far as he is concerned, he’s not done yet. If he doesn’t like Fed that’s fine by me.

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh, and I thought Djokovic speech was very insulting. There were some very calculated digs in it and you could see from Federer’s face he got them.

What did he say?

Made a point of saying Roger was ONE of the best players ever, didn’t offer any humility about winning only on tbs or being outpointed / outbroke or whatever.

Also said Roger at 37 was an inspiration to him to carry on to that age too.

You could see in Federer’s face that he felt nothing nice about it.

of course he is one of....Nole is no Nadal, no BS from him, he says it like it is, he know who THE BEST is/

Classless. 

They don’t have any tradition of it there,it’s always been evident from the parents so to be fair he’s just a product of that.

stick your class where it don't shine and bow to a true champion who won against all odds, crowd and 15000 pink shirts in the crowd. The guy is  a ROCK!!!!!

Like I say, if you don’t understand what it is I certainly won’t be able to explain it to you.

don't bother, keep it for your pink-shirted suckarse boardroom...

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

summerblues wrote:

bogbrush wrote:NITB, with all due respect, have you no decorum?

You mean at a somber moment like this?

Chill.  She is massively outnumbered here, needs to fight asymmetrical warfare.

There’s no war if it’s not made. I guess it’s just her way, I should make allowances.

Oh BB what do you want her to do?  Keep it low just so that we can grieve in quiet and peace?  Nobody died.  A boring dull player won Wimbledon.  Worse things happen every day.

No, come in, say she’s made up and try to engage in a conversation about it.

That’d be cool, and classy.

She can’t pull it off, that’s ok.

barrystar wrote:I think Federer’s shoulders should be broad enough to take ‘digs’ like that. Why should Djoko acknowledge Federer as the best ever when, as far as he is concerned, he’s not done yet. If he doesn’t like Fed that’s fine by me.

Exactly!
It's a big boys game tennis....

Children, come on now.

Is it okay for a 27yo man to cry on a train?

barrystar wrote:I think Federer’s shoulders should be broad enough to take ‘digs’ like that. Why should Djoko acknowledge Federer as the best ever when, as far as he is concerned, he’s not done yet. If he doesn’t like Fed that’s fine by me.

+1

DEC1M8 wrote:

Daniel2 wrote:Nadal has a chance of equaling or beating Fed's slam haul (with the aid of so many FO) but I get most pleasure in knowing Novak won't.

Nadal seems to be ageing tho, his movement is bad now as you’d expect. However Djokovic seems as fast as ever??
Honestly I think Djokovic is a huge threat to Feds slam count, I don’t think Rafa is.

As fast as ever?  Did you just watch that match?  A 38 year old kept pace and played better than him.  He was as worn out as Fed at the end.  No way will he last another 3 years at the top.  Prob not even 2.  He's coming to the end - you'll see.

Amazing match. Novak some way short of his best but took his chances when he needed to. Starting to get into the discussion as the greatest Wimbledon champion now. 

Overall, unless someone else can step up, one of Novak or Rafa look nailed on to win the US Open. Entirely plausible that by next year’s US Open both Rafa and Novak could be up to 19.

luvsports! wrote:Is it okay for a 27yo man to cry on a train?

It’s the sad moments that make the victories more special. Embrace it.

noleisthebest wrote:

barrystar wrote:I think Federer’s shoulders should be broad enough to take ‘digs’ like that. Why should Djoko acknowledge Federer as the best ever when, as far as he is concerned, he’s not done yet. If he doesn’t like Fed that’s fine by me.

Exactly!
It's a big boys game tennis....

Actually, it’s called the Gentlemen's Singles.

That’s a thing over here. It requires a certain type of grace, even saying things to be nice about it. You do t have to offer effusive praise but you have to behave in a certain way.

He’s a Serb, sure, but you’d have thought someone might have tried to explain it.

luvsports! wrote:Is it okay for a 27yo man to cry on a train?

no, suck it up and grow up, this is a good opportunity to practise.

The old man blew it, had now balls, for the third time....it's embarrassing....switch to Nole camp.

luvsports! wrote:Is it okay for a 27yo man to cry on a train?

Yes. But this did not feel like a crying match to me. You have chances, you do not take them. There should be consequences.

bogbrush wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

barrystar wrote:I think Federer’s shoulders should be broad enough to take ‘digs’ like that. Why should Djoko acknowledge Federer as the best ever when, as far as he is concerned, he’s not done yet. If he doesn’t like Fed that’s fine by me.

Exactly!
It's a big boys game tennis....

Actually, it’s called the Gentlemen's Singles.

That’s a thing over here. It requires a certain type of grace, even saying things to be nice about it. You do t have to offer effusive praise but you have to behave in a certain way.

He’s a Serb, sure, but you’d have thought someone might have tried to explain it.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "gentleman"...never mind.