How Many More Slams Is Nadal Going To Win?

noleisthebest wrote:Actually, this is a tougher one than I thought!

My instinct says 4 more slams for Rafa, but then I think he'll have to go past Nole somehow....and I suppose there still are these young players who are getting closer...but I really can't see any of them win anything in the next two years.

Maybe Tsits. He could be good on grass.

noleisthebest wrote:I think Thiem has little chance st RG while Nadal and hungry healthy Nole are around.
But you can bet Nole is going to have a hell of a draw there.

barrystar wrote:
It's down to Djoko and to Nadal's own fitness.

I'm sure he'll get one - he's got to be up for the next two RG's, but I think this year is his last big chance anywhere away from RG.

Therefore, I'll go for 1.

1. Thiem or Fed (remember 2011 anyone? ) or for some reason Nole is tired mentally or physically and loses to someone else at RG after a few masters 1000 wins and Rafa wins RG
   
2. Rafa gets to RG final without losing a set, Nole is there and Nole beats him (obv., same as at AO no reason why not) then Nole has replicated the 2015-2016 Nole slam and as in 2016, he relaxes too much and does not win Wimbledon, then Rafa is as much a favorite or even more a favorite than Fed to win it, esp. as he has already gone to 2 slam finals without winning, he'll win slam final #3, unless Fed finds somehow his best form as he has had more match practice by playing on the red dirt
   
3. Nole does one better than in 2016 and wins Wimbledon too, most likely beating Rafa in the final but then the pressure is on BIG TIME for an actual CYGS and at USO, unless Rafa is physically toast by then, Rafa will be the favorite after Nole but too much pressure on Nole will mean that Rafa will win USO
   

noleisthebest wrote:
The reason I asked for a number is because I find the Nole-Rafa slam split in the next two years the most interesting and fascinating topic in tennis now

You must be kidding right? It is only interesting if Nole has another 2nd half 2016-1st half 2018 episode, as otherwise as long as no one from the #NextGen becomes slam strong, Nole will win everything except for one of the reasons mentioned above. Most likely scenario, this year Nole wins 3 slams and Rafa 1, which puts Nole to 17 and Rafa just ahead with 18, and they could end their careers like that, or maybe Nole adds one or two more or/and Rafa one. I would still believe Fed's record of 20 is safe, but only just. It would be funny if they all end up with 20, but then we'll all have to agree on Nole is the best 

sphairistike wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:
The reason I asked for a number is because I find the Nole-Rafa slam split in the next two years the most interesting and fascinating topic in tennis now

You must be kidding right?

sphairistike wrote:
It is only interesting if Nole has another 2nd half 2016-1st half 2018 episode, as otherwise as long as no one from the #NextGen becomes slam strong, Nole will win everything except for one of the reasons mentioned above. Most likely scenario, this year Nole wins 3 slams and Rafa 1, which puts Nole to 17 and Rafa just ahead with 18, and they could end their careers like that, or maybe Nole adds one or two more or/and Rafa one. I would still believe Fed's record of 20 is safe, but only just. It would be funny if they all end up with 20, but then we'll all have to agree on Nole is the best  [/justify]

Daniel2 wrote:Djok is also not a complete player.  You give hima  wooden racquet or faster surfaces and he's nothing.

Limited players can't be GOAT.  Djok and Nadal are nowhere near as good as Sampras on grass.  Nadal is second best to Sampras on all surfaces except clay.

Borg played in older conditions and had far more talent than Djok or Nadal will ever have.

Numbers tell you nothing.

Daniel2 wrote:Also, Tenez... give it a rest about Fed's tools.  He dominated for 3-4 years with it. Not with the larger racquet.