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Post by luvsports! on Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:22 pm

Jokers time! Women and men.

Cecchinato (66) vs Djokovic (20)
Thiem (15) vs Zverev (10)
Putintseva (33) vs Keys (13)
Stephens (10) vs Kasatkina (14)

LS: Djokovic (joker), Thiem, Putintseva (joker), Stephens

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Re: French Open prediction game: Day 10

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:59 pm

Cecchinato (66) joker
Zverev (10)
Putintseva (33) joker
Kasatkina (14)

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:12 am

djokovic (joker), thiem, putinseva (joker), kasatkina

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Re: French Open prediction game: Day 10

Post by summerblues on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:21 am

Number of sets dropped through QF:

0 - Nadal
1 - Del Potro, Djokovic
2 - Schwartzman
3 - Cilic, Thiem
4 - Cecchinato
6 - Zverev

Zverev has played three five setters.  Apparently, if he were to win, he would not be the first to have played that many.  Kuerten played three consecutive five setters (and also two four setters) in one of his RG wins.

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Re: French Open prediction game: Day 10

Post by summerblues on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:24 am

Emotionally torn tomorrow in both matches.

Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.

The same goes for the other QF.  I checked out Cecchinato's game - he is actually quite enjoyable to watch, so I would definitely want to root for him vs Nole.  On the other hand, if Cecchinato were to somehow then make the final, he would have no hope vs Rafa.

So I think I will pretend I am rooting for Zverev and Nole (but deep down will be cheering for Thiem and Cecchinato).

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:04 am

Ls, the points will have to be normalized. Every match needs to have potentially same value for all. Else what happens that the later rounds with higher seeds ( and higher stakes ) carry less points. Seed 1 V Seed 2 . should be point-wise 32-vs 33. 

I'll normalize the points.

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Post by gallery play on Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:39 am

summerblues wrote:
Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.
SB and others: let it go! Nadal will win RG. I read so many posts full of wishful thinking and every time i think: Really?! How?!
Not only we're looking at an incredible weak field, also the draw couldn't  have been easier for Nadal. And then the so called tough weather conditions.... erm

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Post by naxroy on Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:55 am

I dont know how joker works on this

Djokovic (20)
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Keys (13)
Kasatkina (14)

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Re: French Open prediction game: Day 10

Post by barrystar on Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:05 am

Ho hum - after 120 matches RG has thrown up two with more than a passing interest to me.  I agree with sb that somehow Zverev feels like the toughest potential opponent for Nadal - if he's not cooked should he get there.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:24 am

Djokovic    JOKER
Thiem 
Putintseva 
Kasatkina  JOKER

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:52 am

summerblues wrote:Emotionally torn tomorrow in both matches.

Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.

The same goes for the other QF.  I checked out Cecchinato's game - he is actually quite enjoyable to watch, so I would definitely want to root for him vs Nole.  On the other hand, if Cecchinato were to somehow then make the final, he would have no hope vs Rafa.

So I think I will pretend I am rooting for Zverev and Nole (but deep down will be cheering for Thiem and Cecchinato).
Certainly with you on Thiem / Zverev, though the biggest influencer will be the weather. If it were to be damp and coll they both have a decent shot but Zverev looks to be made of good mental material and I think he might have to balls and cockiness not to be impressed by Nadal.

Oh the horror of head v heart in matches! I'm with you on both of them, though you might argue it's time to to go all-in on Zverev and hope he has a less stressful semi-final. Does that help you on the Djokovic quarter?

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Re: French Open prediction game: Day 10

Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:32 am

naxroy wrote:I dont know how joker works on this

Djokovic (20)
Thiem (15)
Keys (13)
Kasatkina (14)
You pick a player you think is most likely to win and that doubles your points.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:33 am

gallery play wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.
SB and others: let it go! Nadal will win RG. I read so many posts full of wishful thinking and every time i think: Really?! How?!
Not only we're looking at an incredible weak field, also the draw couldn't  have been easier for Nadal. And then the so called tough weather conditions.... erm

Nothing would happen in life without wishful thinking! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:35 am

summerblues wrote:Emotionally torn tomorrow in both matches.

Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.

The same goes for the other QF.  I checked out Cecchinato's game - he is actually quite enjoyable to watch, so I would definitely want to root for him vs Nole.  On the other hand, if Cecchinato were to somehow then make the final, he would have no hope vs Rafa.

So I think I will pretend I am rooting for Zverev and Nole (but deep down will be cheering for Thiem and Cecchinato).

So in other words, Nadal's loss will bring you more satisfaction than any other player in that field winning it!

That's where I am too. In fact I don;t care much about the remaining players...maybe Delpo winning would be a good thing.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:26 am

No order of play on RG website. Really poor!

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:31 am

Interesting comment from Moya about yesterday's match (Nadal's)

I woudl like to point that once again, Nadal lost itensity in that 3rd set. His shots were much shorter and lacked energy...he knew it was coming as he took a long batheroom break at the end of the second set.

I think he is more likely to experience this fatigue with remaining rounds. I don;t have much hope about Schwartz but the Delpo can hurt him as Delpo is one who likes to go physical too.

Let's see whether I am only thinking wishfully !

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:02 pm

Yes, if someone could drag him into a long match he'd be toast. Again I say this is very much about the weather - if he can't get the bite and kick on the forehand then he's got problems as opponents can get some pace on their own shots and get him moving.

If onlt the draw was more evenly spread but perhaps, if he makes it, successive matches with DelPo and Zverev would drain him.

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:03 pm

Tenez wrote:No order of play on RG website. Really poor!
The French. What do you expect? Winking

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Post by gallery play on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:10 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Normally I would root for Thiem vs Zverev but I somehow think that Zverev would have a better chance vs Rafa.
SB and others: let it go! Nadal will win RG. I read so many posts full of wishful thinking and every time i think: Really?! How?!
Not only we're looking at an incredible weak field, also the draw couldn't  have been easier for Nadal. And then the so called tough weather conditions.... erm

Nothing would happen in life without wishful thinking! Winking
Good point, but only as long as you have any influence.

Life's unbearable if you worry about things you can't change

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:15 pm

The weather for the rest of the week is rainy as I said, it will basically play like a low bouncing slow indoor hard court- not good for Rafa.

As for opponents, from the bottom half the toughest from what I've seen will be Thiem- hitting the ball very hard from both wings. Zverev can be outmanoeuvred by Rafa.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:19 pm

I think Thiem will beat Zverev in straights

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Post by barrystar on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:40 pm

Tenez wrote:No order of play on RG website. Really poor!

There is - it's just not in the Order of Play section, only on the front page (no, me neither)

https://www.rolandgarros.com/en-us/article/roland-garros-2018-order-of-play-tuesday-june-5

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:43 pm

All going to plan for Zverev as he's a break down in the 1st. His cunning plan is to get to 2-1 down in sets, then he has them right where he wants them.

May the best man win, and I mean that very sincerely.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:43 pm

barrystar wrote:
Tenez wrote:No order of play on RG website. Really poor!

There is - it's just not in the Order of Play section, only on the front page (no, me neither)

https://www.rolandgarros.com/en-us/article/roland-garros-2018-order-of-play-tuesday-june-5
Yep..but not before 12pm or so....

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:46 pm

bogbrush wrote:Yes, if someone could drag him into a long match he'd be toast. Again I say this is very much about the weather - if he can't get the bite and kick on the forehand then he's got problems as opponents can get some pace on their own shots and get him moving.

If onlt the draw was more evenly spread but perhaps, if he makes it, successive matches with DelPo and Zverev would drain him.
The weather is important but against Delpo, Zverev and Djoko (to a lesser entend) it is not such an issue as they are tall enough to handle the high bounce, plus DBH. However the good thing about the cool weather is that Nadal's shots are shorter.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:47 pm

DECIMA wrote:The weather for the rest of the week is rainy as I said, it will basically play like a low bouncing slow indoor hard court- not good for Rafa.

As for opponents, from the bottom half the toughest from what I've seen will be Thiem- hitting the ball very hard from both wings. Zverev can be outmanoeuvred by Rafa.

I agree. but the down side with rain breaks as we found out in Rome this year or AO12....it helps Nadal recover from his gruelling tennis.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:15 pm

Zverev paying his excessive retrieving!

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:21 pm

What worries me about Thiem v Nadal is that he has a very similar game...but just doesn;t run as well and doesn't hit as hard....on the good side is that he should tire less nadal over the distance.

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Post by barrystar on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:30 pm

bogbrush wrote:All going to plan for Zverev as he's a break down in the 1st. His cunning plan is to get to 2-1 down in sets, then he has them right where he wants them.

May the best man win, and I mean that very sincerely.

Quite - now Thiem is two sets to love up he'd better start worrying......

according to the Guardian there's something up with Zverev's hamstring - but at least he's broken through to a slam QF - more of those to come I'm sure.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:42 pm

As I said a few days ago, unless Djokovic significantly improves he could get mauled by Thiem.

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Post by Jahu on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:56 pm

Come on Thiem, crush himmmmmmm

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Post by Jahu on Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:56 pm

DECIMA wrote:As I said a few days ago, unless Djokovic significantly improves he could get mauled by Thiem.

And that's a bad thing, how? Hope he gets mauled.

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Post by barrystar on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:10 pm

summerblues wrote:Number of sets dropped through QF:

0 - Nadal
1 - Del Potro, Djokovic
2 - Schwartzman
3 - Cilic, Thiem
4 - Cecchinato
6 - Zverev

Zverev has played three five setters.  Apparently, if he were to win, he would not be the first to have played that many.  Kuerten played three consecutive five setters (and also two four setters) in one of his RG wins.

Old man Federer won three five-set matches at the AO last year - although they were in later rounds, 4th R vs. Nishikori, SF vs. Stan, F vs. Nadal.

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Post by Jahu on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:15 pm

Come on Chechen, crush this fake Prince.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:28 pm

Hope Djokovic comes through this in 5.

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Post by Jahu on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:36 pm

Djoko with MTO, touching his shoulder, neck, preparing in advance his 17 fans that he is about to quit or loose quickly.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:37 pm

Djokovic’s neck muscle is hurting- perhaps that explains this abject performance.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:41 pm

This is seriously pissing me off

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:51 pm

Maybe he can win today and then withdraw before semi.

Fognini effect crucial for Nadal?? @bogbrush

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:01 pm

The problem is Cecchi will have no chance v Nadal. he looks good now cause Djoko's balls are not partcularly powerful...but against Nadal....SHBH? No chance.

Looks like Delpo is our only chance!

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Post by naxroy on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:27 pm

Djoker and his mind games

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:27 pm

I am starting to believe in this Italian!

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:28 pm

naxroy wrote:Djoker and his mind games

...unlike Nadal!

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:36 pm

I really think that Italian has all the shots and power to win the whole think. If he beats Djoko, he will beat Thiem.

The FO quite often (before Nadal at least) throws an unknown player in the final.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:38 pm

What I like about him is that he knows how to play angles. And that is very important v Djoko and Nadal.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:41 pm

Tenez wrote:I really think that Italian has all the shots and power to win the whole think. If he beats Djoko, he will beat Thiem.

The FO quite often (before Nadal at least) throws an unknown player in the final.
Thiem will overpower him. Djokovic is not playing aggressively enough.

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Post by Slippy on Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:03 pm

Cecchinato has played amazingly well. The end of the second set was stunning. He’s dipped a lot in this set though and Djoko has upped the power. The start of the fourth will be crucial.

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Post by barrystar on Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:49 pm

I was counting Djoko's chickens for him, but Cecchinato has given himself a chance to end it before the rain sets in and they are called off.

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Post by Slippy on Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:10 pm

Some seriously good tennis in this tiebreak. 6-6.

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Post by luvsports! on Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:11 pm

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