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Tenez: “Cilic & Dimitrov is FAR EASIER run in than Berdych & Chung”

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Re: Tenez: “Cilic & Dimitrov is FAR EASIER run in than Berdych & Chung”

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:43 pm

I did a test a while back which was supposed to see where you are on the scale of being a psychopath.

As always I passed with flying colours!

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:45 pm

bogbrush wrote:I did a test a while back which was supposed to see where you are on the scale of being a psychopath.

As always I passed with flying colours!

Laugh

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Re: Tenez: “Cilic & Dimitrov is FAR EASIER run in than Berdych & Chung”

Post by Daniel on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:47 pm

Cilic and Dimitrov are clearly a lot tougher.  Nadal had a much easier draw compared to Federer at the start, but Fed has lucked out (somewhat) with the way things turned out.  About time.  Still, Fed hasn't started with an easy draw for ages, unlike Nadal.

But going on what actually has happened since then, Fed's draw is easier.  That's just plain fact.  Federer v Cilic then Dimitrov would make any Federer fan anxious.  Fed's draw still isn't what I would call easy - but it's certainly not as bad as Nadal's.


Subtract 7 from 100, then repeat from result. Continue 5 times: 100 93 86 79 65

Say what?  That's wrong. 79 - 7 is not 65.  The examiner needs evaluation.  I think they missed a number.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:56 pm

Daniel wrote:Cilic and Dimitrov are clearly a lot tougher.  Nadal had a much easier draw compared to Federer at the start, but Fed has lucked out (somewhat) with the way things turned out.  About time.  Still, Fed hasn't started with an easy draw for ages, unlike Nadal.

But going on what actually has happened since then, Fed's draw is easier.  That's just plain fact.  Federer v Cilic then Dimitrov would make any Federer fan anxious.  Fed's draw still isn't what I would call easy - but it's certainly not as bad as Nadal's.
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Subtract 7 from 100, then repeat from result. Continue 5 times: 100 93 86 79 65

Say what?  That's wrong. 79 - 7 is not 65.  The examiner needs evaluation.  I think they missed a number.
LOL
Fine, they can get in the queue behind Tenez.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:12 pm

Cilic and Dimitrov...how many times have they beaten Nadal?

Compare thst with Berdych?
(Chung has just beaten Nole so that qualifies as a tough opponent automatically)

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:19 pm

Another joins the queue.

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Post by bogbrush on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:33 pm

It’s marginal if there’s a difference.

Of far, far greater importance is whether the conditions stay fast.

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:26 pm

Bit scared of Berdy actually, if he is in a good mood, he hits clean and hard and is one annoying fuck to see across the net.

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Post by bogbrush on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:33 pm

Totally agree. He’s like Del Potro in that he can hit through Federer.

I don’t hold with him being dumped on as a choker either.

Federer will need to serve great and be very aggressive on return games, and above all move him around a lot.


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Post by Tenez on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:37 pm

Let's see tomorrow how super-Cilic will destroy Nadal. erm

you know the Cilic that needed 4 sets including 3 TBs to defeat majestic Pablo Carreno, or the Cilic who needed 4 sets also to defeat gutsy Popisil.

Amri the comic ...

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:49 pm

Tenez, may I ask you a serious question?

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:59 pm

DECIMA wrote:Tenez, may I ask you a serious question?
Decima, can you ask serious questions?

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Post by naxroy on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 pm

Nervous about tomorrow

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 pm

@Tenez

What's the current year, month, day, date, and time?

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:13 pm

DECIMA wrote:@Tenez

What's the current year, month, day, date, and time?
I was right once again...You can't ask serious questions, nor can you post serious comments.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm

Tenez wrote:
DECIMA wrote:@Tenez

What's the current year, month, day, date, and time?
I was right once again...You can't ask serious questions, nor can you post serious comments.
Well that would make two of us then, wouldn't it

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Post by Daniel on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:36 pm

bogbrush wrote:It’s marginal if there’s a difference.

Of far, far greater importance is whether the conditions stay fast.

No difference between Berdych and a slam winner?  I beg to differ.  No difference between an unseeded player and Dimitrov?  Come on.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:44 pm

Daniel wrote:
bogbrush wrote:It’s marginal if there’s a difference.

Of far, far greater importance is whether the conditions stay fast.

No difference between Berdych and a slam winner?  I beg to differ.  No difference between an unseeded player and Dimitrov?  Come on.
Berdych has been on great form in the past year though, hence he's at his lowest rank since 2009 (ranked 20). Furthermore in the past 3 years, he's had ONE win against top 5 players. This number may seem small, but that doesn't take into account how impressive that one win was:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/40586997

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Post by Daniel on Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:19 pm

He was so good Djok clearly shat it and had to get the hell out of there.

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:30 pm

True, funny how Djoko always has problems just before a potential Fed/Nadal match, 2 days ago he was flying.


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Post by Jahu on Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:33 pm



Djoko, with a 12y old boy thickness of an arm.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:34 pm

Daniel wrote:He was so good Djok clearly shat it and had to get the hell out of there.
haha for the next 6 months too, that one set of slightly above average tennis from Berdych really did a whole lot of damage

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Post by Daniel on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:38 am

Nadal's draw is easier than before after Edmund won.  I still think Cilic is way harder than current Berdych though.  SFs that both Nadal and Fed would have taken before the tournament, should both progress.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:43 am

Band of comics!

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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:16 pm

Well, how did this work out then?

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:18 pm

bogbrush wrote:Well, how did this work out then?
well, Nadal was so injured not even his easy draw could help...but it did enough so he can keep his number one. Grr

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:24 pm

bogbrush wrote:Well, how did this work out then?

What do you think? Frankly. But we will know even more in the next 2 rounds. Dimi was a joke and let's see how threatening will Cilic, Berdych, Chung will be next. Then we will be able to make a real comparison. So far, before injury, Cilic was 2 sets down, choking that 3rd set TB in splendour.

One thing for sure..The draw was not easy enough for Nadal!  , they will have to give him even easier ones. Cilic and Edmund in Fed's draw next time! You bet!

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:57 pm

There is no attempt from Dimi to hurt Edmund. 90% of his shots fall back in the middle of the court. He s making Kyle look good. Edmund weakness I though was his mouvement...clearly he did not need any here!


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Post by bogbrush on Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:08 pm

Oh guys, you seem to be overlooking that Cilic injured Nadal by the pressure and pace. This injury didn’t come onto the court, it was created by the opponent.

Cilic was clearly a very tough opponent. This match was in the balance before the injury..... then Nadal broke under the demands.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:59 pm

bogbrush wrote:Oh guys, you seem to be overlooking that Cilic injured Nadal by the pressure and pace. This injury didn’t come onto the court, it was created by the opponent.
Cilic was clearly a very tough opponent. This match was in the balance before the injury..... then Nadal broke under the demands.
This is a bit far fetch. Though I agree in principle, Cilic did not injure Nadal in his last 10 encounters. To me it looked clearly that Cilic was on his way out until Nadal lost a step.

But again, beating Nadal has nothing to do with how tough is Cilic. We will now more about how tough compared to Fed's draw in the next 2 rounds.

What we know for sure is that Nadal would have had a cake match v Dimi. He has nothing to hurt Nadal, nor Federer!

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Post by barrystar on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:01 pm

bogbrush wrote:Oh guys, you seem to be overlooking that Cilic injured Nadal by the pressure and pace. This injury didn’t come onto the court, it was created by the opponent.

Cilic was clearly a very tough opponent. This match was in the balance before the injury..... then Nadal broke under the demands.

Agreed - Nadal was probably at less than his best from the previous season, but Cilic did extremely well.  What was interesting was how positively Cilic reacted from the disappointment of that tie-breaker when he missed at least two chances with Nadal absolutely on the rack.

I think that at the end of 2017 Nadal made a similar 'mistake' to Murray's at the end of 2016.  He went for #1 and asked too much of his body and he's still paying for it in terms of not having been able to have the uninterrupted warm-up to AO he'd like.  If that's right I more understand why Murray went for #1 having never been there before than Nadal did when he's been there and is nowhere near any #1 records.  He'll understand his priorities better than me, but I'd think that accumulating slams and, possibly, winning the WTF would be more important than accumulating points on a surface that can cause him difficulties.  I don't understand therefore why he played the China Open, and also possibly Paris, rather than focus on the WTF and otherwise look after himself.

Anyway - he's got a good while to get himself ready for IW/Miame, or at least the clay season.

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Post by Daniel on Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:41 pm

Cilic was the toughest QF opponent Nadal could have had.  He's been getting away with it for ages - but he didn't this time.  Why try to deny the obvious? It was obvious before the match that Cilic had a great chance to win.  And he did.  So, maybe not a "band of comics"  - just one comedian named Tenez.

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