Nadal Questionable For AO 2013

According to the latest update:

Rafael Nadal still has no timetable for his return from a knee injury.

The Spaniard hasn't played since losing in the second round of Wimbledon in June to little-known Lukas Rosol.

The 11-time Grand Slam champion is recovering from a partially torn patella tendon in his left knee.

In interviews with European newspapers Tuesday, Nadal says he's not
sure how soon he'll be back or whether he'll play in the Australian Open
in January.

He could miss the ATP World Tour Finals in London Nov. 5-12, and Spain's Davis Cup final against the Czech Republic Nov. 16-18.

Nadal says "this is a day-to-day thing. I can't predict what will happen."


Very strange, indeed.

thanks to, who else but marvelous Wooffie, we have further updates and a nice long interview he gave to L'Equipe:

I want to come back when I'll be
completely healthy, it's clear for me. I don't want to play anymore with
doubts on my physical condition.”

"Pain due to Hoffa’s syndrome started in Indian Wells, forced me to withdraw for the semi in Miami.”

“It was less painful on clay because of the surface. But from the semis in Roland Garros, my knee was very painful."

“I had to play the 2 last matches with drugs and injections. But I've never played as good on clay.”

“It was not a mistake to play in Halle, but maybe a mistake to try to play Wimbledon. My practicing sessions were awful.”

“I know that multiple injections in my knee are not good for my health, but it's tough not to try anything to play a GS.”

“I seem to be very calm with my health issues, but you have to know
that I had tough moments. Not being able to carry my country’s flag in
the Olympic Games was one of them. It made me sad for 2 weeks. Missing a
GS is tough, but less because it's not only every 4 years.”

“My wish is to play in Rio, but it's in 4 years ...”

"I was taught to resist, to play with pain. Everybody is different, but any high level athlete has to play with pain."
In 2010 & 2011, I didn't play often with pain. After RG, it was
even not a question to bear the pain, I was wondering on every shot if
my knee will resist. I couldn't go on like that."

"Tennis is first of all technical, then physical, and mental when you play to the limits."
"People have been telling me for years to change my game. I run
less, I don't run more than Federer or Djokovic when I face them. My
game is my game, I try shorter points, but I won't change my style. I'll
never "serve-volley", useless to wait for that, guys "
"I didn't have the same physical level in 2009 than in 2005. If you
don't work on new shots, you lose. I've been at the top for 8 years."
"Before my injury, I was No 1 on the Race, I was strong. Why
couldn't I come back as strong as before ? I'm not afraid of my body."
"I want to start the next season in perfect conditions : Doha, and then Australian Open."
"I can't decide to play less on hard courts, because there are 2 GS
on hard courts. I'll try to play more on clay, but I even don't think
that I have many options to do that. You know my opinion on hard courts.
"Football, basketball are not played on hard courts. Business won’t. It's cheaper to build a hard court, than a good clay one."

"My ranking has lowered, but I'm not worried about it. I still love tennis with the same intensity, the same passion."

"Tennis is not business for me. The priority is the court, the game.
Until RG, it was one of my best seasons, I loved how I played. I was
feeling good, I thought that I could win any tournament.”

“The team was strong vs USA, I don't know if I'll be ready to compete for the final. I don't look further than tomorrow."

"The captain makes the decision, it's the team above all. I'm not sure I’m the best player for the final in 2 months."

"I'm very happy for Andy and not surprised at all. I know for many
years that something great would happen to him. Good for UK too."

"I'm very ok on the new "no let rule". But every country has to apply the sane tension to all the nets."

"Ah ah. I was not aware of the new time violation rules, they didn't call me. Maybe they don't wish to (laughing)."

Also on the same topic...


http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/09/long-journey-bad-pins/39556/#.UGIJMBi0bgo

I didnt realize there was another thread on this...
I will delete mine...

http://www.rte.ie/sport/tennis/2012/0925/338975-nadal-recuperation-proceeding-according-to-plan/

Interesting interview. I thought he was fine at the FO and then we learn he was suffering in the semi already.

I really don't like this new net call rule. All that because some abused the time rule!!!!!

Tenez wrote:Interesting interview. I thought he was fine at the FO and then we learn he was suffering in the semi already.

I really don't like this new net call rule. All that because some abused the time rule!!!!!

Nadal's interviews about his injuries are so self contradictory, I just can't believe in anything he says. He keeps making songs about any injury when which wasn't even apparent (remember W 2010, AO 2012 knee explosion etc etc. ) and then after months he wants to say he played through the injury in FO when he didn't even look at all. He clearly said he was all fine after Miami withdrawl in MC and thats how it looked. He played 5 weeks and 2 days of tennis during the clay season and all this while suffering from an injury and none could notice?

Nadal is anything but injured. You have to be a dodo to believe such inconsistent stuff, especially when it has been the case since years.

“It was less painful on clay because of the surface. But from the semis in Roland Garros, my knee was very painful."

“I had to play the 2 last matches with drugs and injections. But I've never played as good on clay.”

Is this the clue to his silent ban? Was he caught then with illegal "drugs and injections"?


I doubt we will ever know.

Tenez wrote:

“It was less painful on clay because of the surface. But from the semis in Roland Garros, my knee was very painful."

“I had to play the 2 last matches with drugs and injections. But I've never played as good on clay.”

Is this the clue to his silent ban? Was he caught then with illegal "drugs and injections"?


I doubt we will ever know.

. Good catch.

""Tennis is first of all technical, then physical, and mental when you play to the limits."

I quite like this thought from Nadal. Very profound.

""Ah ah. I was not aware of the new time violation rules, they didn't call me. Maybe they don't wish to (laughing)."


This one, however, I did not like. Who does he think he is?

He is Nadal.

Amritia3ee wrote:He is Nadal.

Do you think he's throwing his weight around more than he should?

noleisthebest wrote:""Tennis is first of all technical, then physical, and mental when you play to the limits."

I quite like this thought from Nadal. Very profound.

Well he is sidelined for physical reasons, so I m not sure why he thinks, it's first technical. I guess he means that without bending his knees or move, he can't (technically) hit the ball properly.

He definitely is a one-off. I just hope he doesn't get the following, as I can see a huge brigade opting for the aerobic tennis.

noleisthebest wrote:He definitely is a one-off. I just hope he doesn't get the following, as I can see a huge brigade opting for the aerobic tennis.

As opposed to anaerobic tennis

Don't worry he has a far bigger following than Djokovic

Amritia3ee wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:He definitely is a one-off. I just hope he doesn't get the following, as I can see a huge brigade opting for the aerobic tennis.

As opposed to anaerobic tennis

Don't worry he has a far bigger following than Djokovic

That's the bit that really worries and saddens me at the same time. Not for Nole's sake, but for the sake of those who follow Nadal.
What a waste.

Amritia3ee wrote:
As opposed to anaerobic tennis

what is anaerobic tennis?

noleisthebest wrote:

Amritia3ee wrote:
As opposed to anaerobic tennis

what is anaerobic tennis?

That's what I'm thinking.
What is aerobic tennis as well btw?

noleisthebest wrote:
What a waste.

A waste of what exactly?? :chin:

You really don't grasp the concept of different people having different views and opinions do you.
Of course, when a Federer fan says something negative about Djokovic it's all about 'different opinions' etc. (as you specifically said to GP, I can bring out the quote). But that rule doesn't seem to apply to Nadal fans in your book.
Double standards I'm afraid.

I'm not sure if you think you're in some way superior to Nadal fans, or you can't see your own double standards.

Certainly as a Nadal fan I accept different people can support who they like, for their own reasons.

I get all your points (except this :chin: bit, what's all that about?)

Waste of time and effort. Same when people by CDs of rap music, wear their jeans halfway down their knees, get tattooed and pierced all over, watch junk films in cinemas and eat junk food.

So back to double standards once again.

What on earth has that list got to do with Nadal?
Why not add terrorism in the list, you might as well.

Making ridiculous and frankly irrelevant comparisons doesn't mask the fact you can't understand subjectivity.
Or maybe you can, and you are covering it up.
Interestingly a few days ago, this is what you said to GP:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote: There's hardly any talk about the beauty, artistry or uniqueness of Djoko's game. It actually seems that is what's bothering you: he doesn't get the credits or attention you think he deserves. So apparently you're viewpoint is different. But then again: so what?

Exactly!

Double Standards.

It's called being blinkered. Why are you wasting time with these highly intelligent people Amrit?

I will ask you two things Amrit. First why did BB not leave V2? Secondly why Tenez and co never joined MTL?

You remind me of my uncle who once said that the biggest ever torture for him would be if someone locked him in a room and forced him to listen to Chopin.

Im not sure I can answer that wow, you'll have to ask them I suppose.

Anyway what's up? Do you think India can win the WC 2020, Virat in good form.

wow3 wrote:It's called being blinkered. Why are you wasting time with these highly intelligent people Amrit?

I will ask you two things Amrit. First why did BB not leave V2? Secondly why Tenez and co never joined MTL?

and lastly, what are you doing here spouting your usual rubbish and not forming your own clever forum where we can all come and tell you how great it is.

noleisthebest wrote:You remind me of my uncle who once said that the biggest ever torture for him would be if someone locked him in a room and forced him to listen to Chopin.

Perhaps he doesn't like Chopin??

Am I blind, or did you agree with Gallery Play that different people can have different opinions.
Or have you changed your mind since you said that?

BB although a Fed fan and Nadal hater but just did not go on an on like a broken record albeit tenez and co.

Tenez and co would have found very difficult to argue with balanced and knowledgeable posters on MTL, thus never on MTL. This is the safest haven for them where they can go on and on with their senseless drivel and garbage.

Not following t20 much but will relish Indo-Pak final

Another insightful comment from Nadal's interview :

"I can’t pretend not to play on hard courts when two of the Slams are on
hard courts, but there is a mistake with our game. You don’t watch
footballers playing on a hard surface, or basketball players, those
sports with rapid movements.‘It’s
not going to change for me and my generation. Hard courts are very
negative for the body. I know the sport is a business and creating these
courts is easier than clay or grass, but I am 100 per cent sure it is
wrong. I may have to play more on clay than before but there aren’t that
many options.’
Andre Agassi once claimed Nadal’s vigorous playing style meant he was ‘writing
cheques that his body can’t cash’. He has proved the likes of Agassi
wrong before; many will hope he does so again."

noleisthebest wrote:

wow3 wrote:It's called being blinkered. Why are you wasting time with these highly intelligent people Amrit?

I will ask you two things Amrit. First why did BB not leave V2? Secondly why Tenez and co never joined MTL?

and lastly, what are you doing here spouting your usual rubbish and not forming your own clever forum where we can all come and tell you how great it is.

To counter your rubbish and to let you realise that what rubbish you type everyday. Don't you ever get embarassed of ridiculing yourself on every other forum. Have you ever seen reactions on your posts on tennis.com? You are the most ridiculous poster I have seen on any forum but the best part is that it does not affect you. You have continued with your sensless mindless crap for day in and day out.

Get a life! it seems you don't have one

wow3 wrote:BB although a Fed fan and Nadal hater but just did not go on an on like a broken record albeit tenez and co.

Tenez and co would have found very difficult to argue with balanced and knowledgeable posters on MTL, thus never on MTL. This is the safest haven for them where they can go on and on with their senseless drivel and garbage.

Not following t20 much but will relish Indo-Pak final

Interesting.

NITB... any answer to my post at 10:44??

Wow...

Wow - You are really reaching new lows.

Why are you posting and wasting your time here?

Go and spread your knowledge on other forums.

Amritia3ee wrote:NITB... any answer to my post at 10:44??

Still waiting...

What for?

I asked you something at 10:44.

Amritia3ee wrote:I asked you something at 10:44.

This is not v2 and I don't play mind games. That's my answer to you to all those type of questions. You can't take any criticism regarding Nadal and all your negative defensive posts (including that question) stem from my comment that Nadal is throwing his weight around.
So, it's you that can't accept other people's opinions, not I.
I hope that answers your question.

I asked you a direct question, and you dodged it.

Did you change your mind from what you said to Gallery Play.

I don't mind what people think, but I will comment if I see double standards.

Tenez wrote:Wow - You are really reaching new lows.

Why are you posting and wasting your time here?

Go and spread your knowledge on other forums.

0"
How about the lows you and your allies have reached?

wow3 wrote:

Tenez wrote:Wow - You are really reaching new lows.

Why are you posting and wasting your time here?

Go and spread your knowledge on other forums.

0"
How about the lows you and your allies have reached?

Personally I felt NITB's comparisons with Nadal fans and 'people who have piercings' frankly low and insulting.

Wow if you compared Federer fans to:
'When people by CDs of rap music, wear their jeans halfway down their knees, get tattooed and pierced all over, watch junk films in cinemas and eat junk food,'
then Tenez would probably step in and condone you, funny he has not said anything to NITB for that.

wow3 wrote:

Tenez wrote:Wow - You are really reaching new lows.

Why are you posting and wasting your time here?

Go and spread your knowledge on other forums.

0"
How about the lows you and your allies have reached?

Are my lows about the fact that I am as suspect about Murray as I was about Nadal? SO yuo are the one completely biased constantly accusing Nadal but unable to see it for your idol. This site is about being able to talk openly and maturely about what makes tennis such a physical sport nowadays. If you cannot stand the heat, move on ....and out.

Tenez, I can vouch that WOW is a huge Federer fan.

He supports Murray only after Federer. I've seen him post for a few years now, this is certain.

I think he only defended Murray a lot when he felt that double standards were being applied to him rather than Djokovic.

Amritia3ee wrote:Wow if you compared Federer fans to:
'When people by CDs of rap music, wear their jeans halfway down their knees, get tattooed and pierced all over, watch junk films in cinemas and eat junk food,'
then Tenez would probably step in and condone you, funny he has not said anything to NITB for that.

What? can't we express views here? If you think I am one who gets ruled by the politically correct, you certainly do not know me. Here the topic I care is tennis.

That's all well and good, but you are not applying the same rules to WOW as you are to NITB.

Amri,

the problem is that some get emotionally unable to disentangle themselves out of their perception, but take it personally, which is not a sign of maturity, quite the opposite.
That's all fine, but it does not help on forums. It makes it very difficult to have any sort of discussion if people get all overheated and irrational.

As Tenez said it well: if you can't stand the heat, move on!
I know you can despite having your Nadal-sensitive moments.

Everyone can get carried away, just no need to be personal and insulting to any poster here, esp the one who founded the forum and in my opinion is a really genuinely great host.

Amritia3ee wrote:I think he only defended Murray a lot when he felt that double standards were being applied to him rather than Djokovic.

He is the one with double standards. He had a go at me today cause I noted Murray's metamorphosis since 05 while he has been constantly having a go at Nadal dubious diets for the last 3 years. That's hypocritical.

Amritia3ee wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

Amritia3ee wrote:
As opposed to anaerobic tennis

what is anaerobic tennis?

That's what I'm thinking.
What is aerobic tennis as well btw?

Aerobic tennis is the one where you need to have high level of aerobic endurance in order to play it. You stand on that baseline and think: I'll be fine, I can last as long as I need to in order to win this match. I can run and run and run. Like a rabbit as Safin once famously said. Until your knees buckle underneath you.

noleisthebest wrote:Amri,

the problem is that some get emotionally unable to disentangle themselves out of their perception, but take it personally, which is not a sign of maturity, quite the opposite.
That's all fine, but it does not help on forums. It makes it very difficult to have any sort of discussion if people get all overheated and irrational.

As Tenez said it well: if you can't stand the heat, move on!
I know you can despite having your Nadal-sensitive moments.

Everyone can get carried away, just no need to be personal and insulting to any poster here, esp the one who founded the forum and in my opinion is a really genuinely great host.

NITB, the fact is that here you insulted me, not Nadal.
If you say something against Nadal it's ok, we can have a debate etc.
But your comparisons were directly implying Nadal fans, and as Tenex would say
it was 'low.'

Tenez wrote:

Amritia3ee wrote:I think he only defended Murray a lot when he felt that double standards were being applied to him rather than Djokovic.

He is the one with double standards. He had a go at me today cause I noted Murray's metamorphosis since 05 while he has been constantly having a go at Nadal dubious diets for the last 3 years. That's hypocritical.

It may well be
Two wrongs don't make a right though.

Amritia3ee wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right though.

Which wrongs?