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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 3:34 am

RG moves to the second day and its a Wednesday start for Djokovic. Nadal is playing today. The following are the matches for the Prediction game:

1.

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [5]
vs.
Gael Monfils (FRA)
My pick: Berdych

2.

Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) [10]
vs.
Laura Robson (GBR)

My pick: Robson

3.
Sergiy Stakhovsky (UKR)
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Richard Gasquet (FRA) [7]


My take: Gasquet

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Carlos Berlocq (ARG)
vs.
John Isner (USA) [19]

My take: Isner

5.


Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)
vs.
Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)

My take: PHM

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon May 27, 2013 10:03 am

Tough ones you've got for us today, rotla! Aren't early rounds of a slam meant to be easy? Winking

OK then, what must be done - will be done!

Berdych, Robson, Gasquet, Berlocq, Nieminen.


aaaand: vamos Feliiiiiiiii diva

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 10:15 am

noleisthebest wrote:
aaaand: vamos Feliiiiiiiii diva

If Feli wins, my terrible day with of prediction goes worse. I just somehow manage to make the worst picks. Maybe next time after posting my choices, I should edit it and put the exact opposite.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon May 27, 2013 10:18 am

Don't worry rotla!
I'm kicking myself for going against Rao yesterday Sad

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 10:24 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
aaaand: vamos Feliiiiiiiii Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 3559488474

If Feli wins, my terrible day with of prediction goes worse. I just somehow manage to make the worst picks. Maybe next time after posting my choices, I should edit it and put the exact opposite.

You are a sentimental fan. You go for your preferred players. One has to have a stoned heart to play these games....like Sphair! Winking

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 12:35 pm

Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
aaaand: vamos Feliiiiiiiii Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 3559488474

If Feli wins, my terrible day with of prediction goes worse. I just somehow manage to make the worst picks. Maybe next time after posting my choices, I should edit it and put the exact opposite.

You are a sentimental fan. You go for your preferred players. One has to have a stoned heart to play these games....like Sphair! Winking

ya chef


Nadal-Brands started. On serve 3-2

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 12:51 pm

OMG, I think king of clay is seeing Rosol across the net. Brand eerily has a Rosol aura. nadal just double faulted his game away.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 12:54 pm

What's going on, Brand is the playing like king of clay with AGGRESSION. Just took the 1st set 64!!!!!!!! Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 83870220

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 1:08 pm

Yes Nadal will always be scared by hard hitters. That is essentially the only that beats him when one doesn;t have Djoko's stamina.

This is why I was saying that if he plays Rosol, he may not have it easy either.

What a scrapper Nadal is though!

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon May 27, 2013 1:12 pm

Brands has had a great run in the last few tournaments and beat some very good players in Munich (lost to Kholi in the semis there), I was expecting decent resistance from him.

Go Brandyyyyyyyy!!!!! diva

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 1:13 pm

What Brands does is even more impressive that he has DHBH....but we all know that Nadal is going to win over the distance still, don't we?

The strange thing is that the greatest clay courter of all time may have had one of the worse clay game ever...but the best stamina ever for sure.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 1:13 pm

Nadal will most likely recover to win. He's a slow starter. But the point is, has he EVER lost his very first game in RG before? Someone in Vs called Brand "Rosol's twin". Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 2033450363

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 1:17 pm

Sorry, I meant first set (of all his first RG matches).

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 1:24 pm

Feli Lopez won Sad Granollars lost. This is my worst opening in a prediction game ever.

5/6 incorrect predictions.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 1:36 pm

Tenez wrote:What Brands does is even more impressive that he has DHBH....but we all know that Nadal is going to win over the distance still, don't we?

The strange thing is that the greatest clay courter of all time may have had one of the worse clay game ever...but the best stamina ever for sure.

Is he also serving better than Rosol, 5 aces so far to nadal's 1. He's making nadal look really silly. Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 3157886161

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Post by gallery play on Mon May 27, 2013 2:42 pm

Folks, gimme a bit more about the Brands-Nadal match, thnx!
Not watching but I'm very surprised by the score so far.

Did Brands had chances to take the third or is Nadal clearly turning things around? (read: Brands is getting tired)

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 2:57 pm

Yup, GP, you guess it. Same story as with Gulbuis, Dimi. Brands tiring and consistency level drops but nadal can still run 10 times more, faster and hit accurately with perfect focus and consistency. He won't have stood a chance without this type of fitness.

But I don't know how he can beat Djoko having such a hard time vs Brands.

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 3:50 pm

Yes Brand hit simply very hard. FH, BH and seemed to find the time to compose himself and play teh right shot at the reight time. He was 3/0 up in that 2nd set TB and made a couple of easy mistakes with Nadal being a bit lucky with a net call. 2 sets to love could have had a different outcome...yet you knew that it woudl be difficult for Brand to keep that kind of tennis. The shots were simply too hard for Nadal and once again he had trouble handling that pace.

Real shame even if we expected it. I don't think Nadal was playing badly at all. SImply that teh shots are too hard for him to control the game...despite his high margins, spinny balls.

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Post by gallery play on Mon May 27, 2013 3:54 pm

The problem is: matches like this only make Nadal stronger. It confirms he can outlast good tennis

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 4:17 pm

gallery play wrote:The problem is: matches like this only make Nadal stronger. It confirms he can outlast good tennis

Well yes...that's one of the problem. It shows that once again....when moments get tight the riskless player wins 95 % of the time.

This is why I have been saying for years that we should not compare mental strength between an attacking player and a defender. Nadal played gutlessly and in a panick mode for 2 sets while Brands played a gutsy courageous tennis for nearly 2 sets but it's teh gutless player who wins...on clay that is.

It also tells us that Nadal on grass might struggle again.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 5:04 pm

Berdy-Monf is going good. Monf a set a a Break up. Could this be end of RG13 for Berdych? Hi draw is mighty tough one.

Berdych is hitting some great shots, but on longer run Monfs is making him misfire.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 5:11 pm

gallery play wrote:The problem is: matches like this only make Nadal stronger. It confirms he can outlast good tennis

I'd go further to say that he can outlast guys actually playing better tennis than him in the 1st - 2nd set(s). In my mind Gulbuis, Dimi and Brands play better than him even on his turf, shot for shot, when they are equally fresh.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 5:13 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:The problem is: matches like this only make Nadal stronger. It confirms he can outlast good tennis

Well yes...that's one of the problem. It shows that once again....when moments get tight the riskless player wins 95 % of the time.

This is why I have been saying for years that we should not compare mental strength between an attacking player and a defender. Nadal played gutlessly and in a panick mode for 2 sets while Brands played a gutsy courageous tennis for nearly 2 sets but it's teh gutless player who wins...on clay that is.

It also tells us that Nadal on grass might struggle again.

Do you think the outcome would've been different if nadal's match vs Brands today was played on grass?

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 5:45 pm

SR wrote:
Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:The problem is: matches like this only make Nadal stronger. It confirms he can outlast good tennis

Well yes...that's one of the problem. It shows that once again....when moments get tight the riskless player wins 95 % of the time.

This is why I have been saying for years that we should not compare mental strength between an attacking player and a defender. Nadal played gutlessly and in a panick mode for 2 sets while Brands played a gutsy courageous tennis for nearly 2 sets but it's teh gutless player who wins...on clay that is.

It also tells us that Nadal on grass might struggle again.

Do you think the outcome would've been different if nadal's match vs Brands today was played on grass?

It's difficult to say for certain but Brands shots on fresh grass would have been extremely tough for Nadal. He most likely woudl have own his serve even more easily, woudl have lost less energy running around and woudl have had easier balls to put away with more UEs from Nadal.

I think we can be certain he woudl have been a 2 sets to love to Brands and then the pressure woudl really have been on Nadal...even more. Let's not forget that on fresh grass, Nadal struggled v Querrey, Petchner, Haase, Youzhny, Rosol and a young Gulbis. None of those guys have particularly done well on grass when not meeting Nadal.

This is going to make this FO and W more interesting than I thought.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon May 27, 2013 6:26 pm

Berdy has to fight it out in 5 sets i he has to win.

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Post by SayonaRa on Mon May 27, 2013 7:44 pm

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Berdych gone! Many fed fans see him as Fed's most dangerous opponent on his side of the draw. Excellent effort from 2 sets down but Monfils got the job done with the overwhelming home-crowd support.

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 9:00 pm

Glad Monfils won and he showed why he once was world junior champion. He played aggressive tennis when it really mattered. He was unlucky to have to play it over 5 sets. He was so close to win it in 3 or 4.

Berdych not very friendly at the net.

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Post by Tenez on Mon May 27, 2013 9:01 pm

SR wrote:Monfils Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 4052418255

Berdych gone! Many fed fans see him as Fed's most dangerous opponent on his side of the draw. Excellent effort from 2 sets down but Monfils got the job done with the overwhelming home-crowd support.
Not me. Fed's most dangerous opponent is his back. I think Fed has been unlucky of late to play Berdych while under par....including in that last USO where he could not serve properly.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon May 27, 2013 9:40 pm

I don't want to know how I scored today Run

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon May 27, 2013 9:55 pm

Berd out!
I am and am not surprised, Monf is one very tough cookie and has just come from Nice final, I knew he'd be good.
I haven't seen the match but am glad to hear he played attacking tennis, I have always remembered him as an acrobatic counter-puncher...
I loved his and Simon's match I think it was either last AO or USO.

He will be a handful even for Fed.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue May 28, 2013 12:21 am

Watching Monf Berd match highlights, didn't realise it was THAT close, 4 TBs!
Happy for Monf, he was in some dark places during the injury, great he's back, this win in front of his crowd will mean the world to him!

Berd seems to have burnt out and overplayed in the last few months.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue May 28, 2013 12:27 am

Hats off to the French, they deserve all the talented players at the top, there is so much love and passion for their players here, esp the way they cover their matches on TV.
LTA should pay attention and not be in love with their Big boys club mentality....

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue May 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Result day 2:

winners:

1. Monfils

2. Wozniacki

3. Gasquet

4. Isner

5. Neiminen

6. Feliciano Lopez

Points collected :

1. rotla: -33, -10, 7, 19, -33, -33

2. Tenez: -33, 10, 7, -19, 33, -33

3. nitb: -33, -10, 7, -19, 33, 33

4. sphairstake :

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Points table:

1. rotla: -75 -83 = -158

2. Tenez: -57 -35 = -92

3. nitb: 87 + 11 = 98

4. Sphair: 115 - 135 = -20 (missed ) Sorry sphair.

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Post by sphairistike on Tue May 28, 2013 8:01 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Result day 2:

winners:

1. Monfils

2. Wozniacki

3. Gasquet

4. Isner

5. Neiminen

6. Feliciano Lopez

Points collected :

1. rotla: -33, -10, 7, 19, -33, -33

2. Tenez: -33, 10, 7, -19, 33, -33

3. nitb: -33, -10, 7, -19, 33, 33

4. sphairstake :

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Points table:

1. rotla: -75 -83 = -158

2. Tenez: -57 -35 = -92

3. nitb: 87 + 11 = 98

4. Sphair: 115 - 135 = -20 (missed ) Sorry sphair.

That's unfair, rotla! I did not get the stuff in time. Can I please have this round as a bye (+0)? I'll make sure it does not happen again, but I'm in a different location and if the stuff is sent in too late, I cannot give my predictions before the matches start... Thanks in advance. If anybody (nitb Winking) objects, then I'll accept this terrible punishment, but IMHO, I missed already some points by not playing (-0 is conservative Winking)

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue May 28, 2013 8:22 pm

sphairistike wrote:


That's unfair, rotla! I did not get the stuff in time. Can I please have this round as a bye (+0)? I'll make sure it does not happen again, but I'm in a different location and if the stuff is sent in too late, I cannot give my predictions before the matches start... Thanks in advance. If anybody (nitb Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 1071211947) objects, then I'll accept this terrible punishment, but IMHO, I missed already some points by not playing (-0 is conservative Roland Garros 2013: MOTD : Day 2 27/05/2013 1071211947)

I understand you might have missed it due to late submission of the matches. We on ocassion relax our rules, so perhaps for you too, unless nitb or Tenez object. With me its toatally fine.

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Post by sphairistike on Tue May 28, 2013 8:58 pm

OK, thanks. Tenez and Nitb, please be nice! Rose

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed May 29, 2013 12:36 am

OK, to be fair to all we either go by the rules, or we pretend there was no day 2 for any of us and post predictions every day on time Whistle

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 am

I thought Sphair did play day 2....just a bit late so that's fine by me. Her picks should be accounted for.

I am also keen to scrap day 2 if Sphair did not pick any.

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Post by sphairistike on Wed May 29, 2013 4:08 pm

Tenez wrote:I thought Sphair did play day 2....just a bit late so that's fine by me. Her HIS picks should be accounted for.

I am also keen to scrap day 2 if Sphair did not pick any.

I got day 3 right in time, day 2 was posted too late. Day 4 was posted early and got my picks in first! Cheers

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 29, 2013 4:44 pm

Sorry Sphair about the gender mess up.

If yuo say your picks on day 2 were without consulting result...then fine by me and let's count them...but Rotla is the boss of this game so his call.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Wed May 29, 2013 4:59 pm

sphair, what all were ur pick for day 2? I can't find it.

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