Men's Final - FO 2018
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Re: Men's Final - FO 2018
This feels like having a root canal done over seven dentist visits. But we got this far, so let's not give up our hope just yet. Maybe Thiem will find some magic. Good luck to him.
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What’s the weather? Unless it’s drizzly it’ll be obviously Nadal by the middle of the 1st set as the tactic plays out.
If it’s drizzly then Thiem has a chance if he keeps his head.
If it’s drizzly then Thiem has a chance if he keeps his head.
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Thiem's only chance is if he manages to wear Nadal off. When you think about it, he is the only one who had the fitness to challenge him. He has the loopy game to make him run while running himself.
I expect a close match if Thiem keeps his head together but I still expect him to lose.
If it goes to 5, Thiem should win...bar rain interruption!
I expect a close match if Thiem keeps his head together but I still expect him to lose.
If it goes to 5, Thiem should win...bar rain interruption!
Tenez- Posts : 21050
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Oh I think 5 sets it’s Thiems to lose but getting there is the trick.
Nadal is very nervous abd having lost to Thiem a few weeks ago that’ll be on his mind.
I know I’m a cracked record but it’s crucial that the ball doesn’t rear up dramatically. Sadly I see hot and dry is the forecast.
Nadal is very nervous abd having lost to Thiem a few weeks ago that’ll be on his mind.
I know I’m a cracked record but it’s crucial that the ball doesn’t rear up dramatically. Sadly I see hot and dry is the forecast.
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This looks to be the perfect final. I don’t think there is much debate that these two guys are the world’s top two claycourters and it’s the great champion against a younger guy in his first final.
Neither player has been particularly tested on their run to the final. I think Thiem has probably looked slightly the more convincing but he’s also probably had the easier opposition.
I’m going for the upset today. Just have a feeling it will final be a changing of the guard. Thiem to win in 4.
Neither player has been particularly tested on their run to the final. I think Thiem has probably looked slightly the more convincing but he’s also probably had the easier opposition.
I’m going for the upset today. Just have a feeling it will final be a changing of the guard. Thiem to win in 4.
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Nadal (30) vs thiem (100)
Nadal in 3
Nadal in 3
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Tenez wrote:Thiem's only chance is if he manages to wear Nadal off. When you think about it, he is the only one who had the fitness to challenge him. He has the loopy game to make him run while running himself.
I expect a close match if Thiem keeps his head together but I still expect him to lose.
If it goes to 5, Thiem should win...bar rain interruption!
if it goes to 5 sets, it is more than probable that it will be a match in several parts (rain interruptions)
game starts at 15:00 but in truth it will be 15:20 more or less
rain is expected around 18:00 so they have those 2 hours and a half before a probable interruption.
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I decided I’m going to watch after all....because this will be the last RG Nadal is going to win, see...there isa silver lining in every cloud!
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Break back, crush himmmmmmm
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I cannot get any live stream and the nearest sports bar does not open for another 90 minutes. Maybe a blessing in disguise!
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This is going to feel like a wasted afternoon when five years from now he wins his 16th FO.noleisthebest wrote:I decided I’m going to watch after all....because this will be the last RG Nadal is going to win, see...there isa silver lining in every cloud!
summerblues- Posts : 5068
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Pathetique from Thiem! He won;t beat Nadal by outsmarting him or hitting through him. he has to engage in long rallies! It's essential!
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Thiem's got the mad glint in his Austrian eye today, hehe
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summerblues wrote:I cannot get any live stream and the nearest sports bar does not open for another 90 minutes. Maybe a blessing in disguise!
http://totalsportek.live/watch/eurosport-1-hd-live-stream-watch-eurosport-1-online/
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ooooooh, I hope GP is watching and seeing this staredown from Nadal in slo-mo....: "how dare you, who ARE you"
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wow that was one very stupid volley straight back at Nadal.
There goes the point that turned the match.
A bit earlier than I expected, but that was it.
There goes the point that turned the match.
A bit earlier than I expected, but that was it.
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Don't be scared Thiem go for it HARDDDD
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Did you see how Nadal went to the drop shot as soon as the rallies lengthened?
Thiem will only beat Nadal by tiring him!
Thiem will only beat Nadal by tiring him!
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Now you jinxing too? What has the world come to?noleisthebest wrote:There goes the point that turned the match.
summerblues- Posts : 5068
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Way too many UEs from Thiem. He thinks he has to go risky...when he actually doesn;t!
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summerblues wrote:Now you jinxing too? What has the world come to?noleisthebest wrote:There goes the point that turned the match.
no, I really thought so.
He squandered that point and it could have earnt him a break.
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Thx Jahu, but I can never get these European sites to work. No worries, it is fine. If the match is still in progress 90 minutes from now, I will see it from there. If not, then it is probably better that way anyway.Jahu wrote:summerblues wrote:I cannot get any live stream and the nearest sports bar does not open for another 90 minutes. Maybe a blessing in disguise!
http://totalsportek.live/watch/eurosport-1-hd-live-stream-watch-eurosport-1-online/
summerblues- Posts : 5068
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Tenez wrote:Way too many UEs from Thiem. He thinks he has to go risky...when he actually doesn;t!
He is scared of rallying, can't you tell?
He plays with one arm only.
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Can you believe the scum umpire?
If this was a football match the crowd would've mobbed him.
If this was a football match the crowd would've mobbed him.
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Thiem needs to be aggressive. If he allows rally to go neutral, Rafa will take over. It is a fine line Thiem needs to walk.
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He is as aggressive as he can be. Problem is this is Nadal's mudpit and he can always find a way to pin Thiem far inthe BH corner.summerblues wrote:Thiem needs to be aggressive. If he allows rally to go neutral, Rafa will take over. It is a fine line Thiem needs to walk.
And there is the slimeball umpire to help with fake calls just in case.
Thiem can't win this even if Nadal left the court and was not across the net kind of thing....
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Tenez wrote:Did you see how Nadal went to the drop shot as soon as the rallies lengthened?
Thiem will only beat Nadal by tiring him!
Usually i'm not very optimistic concerning Nadal's fitness and the chance of beating it but i reckon next year Thiem can do it.
Have you read something about the trainings regime of Thiem's coach Gunther Bresnik? The guy who coached Gulbis in the top 10.
Bresnik's training methods are beasty, exactly what's needed.
I'm already looking forward to the panic in Nadal's eyes once he realizes he's not going to outlast Thiem.
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Brilliant hold from Thiem, how long was this game?
Nadal's got his work cut out today...I mean sweat.
Nadal's got his work cut out today...I mean sweat.
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If Nadal was human, he would of just send out those 2 serves of Thiem and let him take that game that umpire stole it.
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If only Thiem could serve a first serve! he must have a very low first serve %.
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How much time does Nadal take after a let?!?!?!? This is absurd!!!!
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summerblues wrote:Thiem needs to be aggressive. If he allows rally to go neutral, Rafa will take over. It is a fine line Thiem needs to walk.
There are different kinds of being neutral. What the Sod did so well in 2009 was hitting neutral shots (flat balls straight in the middle) which couldn't be countered by Nadal.
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Nadal is thinking hard...every time camera pans to his face.
He did not expect to work this hard.
He did not expect to work this hard.
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Exactly.noleisthebest wrote:He is as aggressive as he can be. Problem is this is Nadal's mudpit and he can always find a way to pin Thiem far inthe BH corner.summerblues wrote:Thiem needs to be aggressive. If he allows rally to go neutral, Rafa will take over. It is a fine line Thiem needs to walk.
And there is the slimeball umpire to help with fake calls just in case.
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Thiem needs to play better return games. I guess he needs 2 breaks of serve to win a set. Nothing less.
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Turns out NBC gives me 30 minutes free preview without having subscription. So I am bridging the gap until the pub opens.
summerblues- Posts : 5068
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Nadal struggles to time Thiems ball....it has that critical spin and pace.
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Interesting that Nadal is not even trying to run for some of Thiem's shots...which he would've done in the past.
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One would do right now!gallery play wrote:Thiem needs to play better return games. I guess he needs 2 breaks of serve to win a set. Nothing less.
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Only 46% vs 64% Theims 1st serve.
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Nadal is putting all the juice he has into his shots...he knows he must not lose this set.
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Well, that indeed was a very poor return game from Thiem...almost resigned.
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Wilander saying that Nadal is taking long between serve.....but that teh referee should stay out as it woudl make nadal angry and could spur him on.
I disagree with the second part.
I disagree with the second part.
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NBC commentators were also just talking about Nadal's time between points - they were talking very positively about the shot clock. They said that Rafa always takes long but when the match gets tight, he takes even longer.
summerblues- Posts : 5068
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The problem with Thiem is: he's too much of a claycourter. He lacks flat shots, netplay and variety.
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