Re: US OPEN MEN´S FINAL

by gallery play Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:47 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:I just said how i see their games

I know, but I'd like to hear a bit more on Murray, since you obviously like his tennis more, I may have my eyes opened, I must be missing something...

Mwah, it's not like i like his tennis, just opening discussions Winking

by paulcz Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:48 pm

Andy deserved this first set, wanted to win it more than Nole. The second set is decisive one. Andy looks better.

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:53 pm

gallery play wrote:Andy deserved the set, he was better in that TB but i'm not sure you 3 saw it that way

Anyway, i'm about to leave you ("finally!" i hear you guys thinking ) i have to get up early
The tension makes up for the poor quality so it could get interesting

Nighty! It's certainly a great match worth losing sleep.

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 pm

But Murray now is very happy to push the ball more than ever.

by paulcz Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:55 pm

Nole is struggling with FH timing, he is hardly able to play a winner from this wing. If he does not improve his serve no chance to win it today.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:55 pm

noleisthebest wrote:The way I have seen these few games is the wind is disabling Nole's A game and descending to Murray's counter-punching pushing.
He is struggling with serving because of the wind as he has a higher toss than Murray and has to grind, even push. Awful.

I'm really not interested in watching it any more. I'll have a little break and hopefully the wind stops.

Learn to have some grace, some class.

Murray is out-playing Djokovic and dealing with the conditions better.

2011 really was a one-off.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:56 pm

At least Murray did not give a call to boycott to blue clay. Nole cannot adjust to wind, Nole could not adjust to blue clay, nole can whinge and whinge more.

Fed has been the real champion and Andy seems to right heir to Fed's legacy.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:The way I have seen these few games is the wind is disabling Nole's A game and descending to Murray's counter-punching pushing.
He is struggling with serving because of the wind as he has a higher toss than Murray and has to grind, even push. Awful.

I'm really not interested in watching it any more. I'll have a little break and hopefully the wind stops.
Learn to have some grace, some class.

Murray is out-playing Djokovic and dealing with the conditions better.

2011 really was a one-off.

Amrit, this is the class. Laugh

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Funny thing is Djokovic has a negative H2H vs Federer, and Nadal.
Murray will also probably catch up with him soon, 8-7 to Djoko if Murray wins this one.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 pm

The gulf in class at the moment is huge- Djokovic is clueless here.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Out muscled, outmanoeuvred!

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Murray haters have done a Run

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Murray is killing Djoko with that slice.
2011 was a clear one-off.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:01 pm

Could be a bagel here.

Murray is playing more aggressively than Djokovic here.

Their games are pretty similar- but on the whole in the last few years Djoko has been more passive. Early on until 2010 Djokovic was more attacking, but now Murray is.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:02 pm

Djokovic saves the bagel, 4-1.

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:03 pm

wow3 wrote:Murray haters have done a

SO you change your opinion with the scoreboard? 2 points seperated the players in the first set but 2 points is enough to make you see things differently?

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:06 pm

Murray dominating here... this match is being played on his terms.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:11 pm

Tenez wrote:
wow3 wrote:Murray haters have done a

SO you change your opinion with the scoreboard? 2 points seperated the players in the first set but 2 points is enough to make you see things differently?

Tenez, I don't consider you as a hater anyway. When I say hater, it means NHTB-Nole has the best doctor.
Not really, Andy might still lose and I am not celebrating Andy's win. You said that you wont be watching the match any more. Murray is doing to Djoker whhat Djoker did to Ferrer. Djoko will have to do something special to win this one, outnadalling might not work here.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:13 pm

Djokovic is being completely outclassed.
Stat: Nadal has never lost a Grand Slam in straight sets.

Federer has (FO2008), Murray has, and Djoko did in 2007.

Maybe another one coming up for Djoko now...

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:13 pm

Tenez wrote:But Murray now is very happy to push the ball more than ever.

Well Djoko is not playing out of the world tennis or is he?

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:15 pm

Murray is attacking more than Djokovic here... that's clear.

Djoko looks dazed.

by noleisthebest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:15 pm

this is mud-wrestling style of tennis....I can't believe I'm watching USO final!

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:17 pm

noleisthebest wrote:this is mud-wrestling style of tennis....I can't believe I'm watching USO final!

Well Djoko could actually attack rather than sit back and get schooled....

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:18 pm

Murray now misses 2 easy shots, 0-30

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:18 pm

So defensive from Djokovic... but it is finally working.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:21 pm

1 hour plus for the first set, seems very likely now for the second set. Doh

by noleisthebest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:21 pm

The wind has finally stopped a little and you can see the difference in Novak's play immediately!

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:21 pm

noleisthebest wrote:The wind has finally stopped!

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:22 pm

Murray chokes! Djokovic playing very passive, as I said match is on Murray's terms.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:23 pm

noleisthebest wrote:The wind has finally stopped a little and you can see the difference in Novak's play immediately!

Are you watching?
BP down, the wind drifted Murray's forehand long...

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:24 pm

BBC LIVE TEXT: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/19551577

Murray 7-6 (12-10) 5-4 Djokovic*
Oh. Murray's forehand falters twice for 0-30. A ripple of nervous energy makes its way around Arthur Ashe before silence decends. A third forehand into the net from Murray presents Djokovic with three break points and the Serbian breaks back after a Murray forehand, assisted by the wind, bounces long.

by paulcz Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:26 pm

Beautiful game from Nole, so far the best US OPEN MEN´S FINAL - Page 3 1071211947

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:28 pm

It is more of the case Murray losing it than Djoker winning it. Yikes

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:31 pm

It is really painful to watch Murray.

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:31 pm

wow3 wrote:
Tenez wrote:But Murray now is very happy to push the ball more than ever.

Well Djoko is not playing out of the world tennis or is he?

Certainly not but his higher # of UEs shows he is trying a bit harder.

by paulcz Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:31 pm

Andy is really focused and really strong when it matters. So far for Andy

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:32 pm

wow3 wrote:It is more of the case Murray losing it than Djoker winning it.

by paulcz Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:34 pm

Nole´s slice is not really good, no way by playing this

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:37 pm

NHTB HAS A MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB, IF HE WINS THIS THEN HE WILL SURELY BE A GOAT.

ANDY HATERS STAY ON!

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:38 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:this is mud-wrestling style of tennis....I can't believe I'm watching USO final!
Well Djoko could actually attack rather than sit back and get schooled....

I like this one and doing this I am just thinking that we will be cutting each other's throat when Nadal comes back Laugh

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:39 pm

wow3 wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:this is mud-wrestling style of tennis....I can't believe I'm watching USO final!
Well Djoko could actually attack rather than sit back and get schooled....

I like this one and doing this I am just thinking that we will be cutting each other's throat when Nadal comes back

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:40 pm

paulcz wrote:Andy is really focused and really strong when it matters. So far for Andy

He is solid but frankly it's pushing the ball up and waiting for Djoko to miss his smashes and then again on SP, it's Djoko going for a bit too much.

Frankly Murray played very well v Rao but since then he has essentially been waiting for UEs to come his way. He pushes the ball more than ever.

Let's see how Djoko reacts from now on.

by noleisthebest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:41 pm

Time for some nice music:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZOtvyAV_IQ

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:42 pm

Tenez... Djoko is hardly attacking.
He is playing very passively, and when he does step up, he messes up completely. Terrible stuff.

Murray is ahead, and deservedly so.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:45 pm

Massive serving, and brilliant attacking play from Murray 15-40!
40-40 now

by noleisthebest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:46 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:Tenez... Djoko is hardly attacking.
He is playing very passively, and when he does step up, he messes up completely. Terrible stuff.

Murray is ahead, and deservedly so.

Coming from a Nadal fan, your logic is astonishingly consistent.

by Tenez Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:47 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:Tenez... Djoko is hardly attacking.

True cause to attack you have to go for smaller margins and the UEs shows that Djoko has at least tried to attack.

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:47 pm

Tenez wrote:
paulcz wrote:Andy is really focused and really strong when it matters. So far for Andy

He is solid but frankly it's pushing the ball up and waiting for Djoko to miss his smashes and then again on SP, it's Djoko going for a bit too much.

Frankly Murray played very well v Rao but since then he has essentially been waiting for UEs to come his way. He pushes the ball more than ever.

Let's see how Djoko reacts from now on.

I thought you left but good that you are here. I just want to ask you as what is stopping Djoker to push and defend better than Murray.
You talk about legs then not to forget that djoker has the lungs, he lasted 12 hours in 2 days.

by Larry Ellison Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:49 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:Tenez... Djoko is hardly attacking.
He is playing very passively, and when he does step up, he messes up completely. Terrible stuff.

Murray is ahead, and deservedly so.

Coming from a Nadal fan, your logic is astonishingly consistent.

Nadal knows what he is doing. Djokovic looks clue-less out there.
Nadal mentally would never give up like that at 5-6. Remember Nadal has never lost a Grand Slam Final in straight sets, unlike Djokovic.

by noleisthebest Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:51 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:Tenez... Djoko is hardly attacking.
He is playing very passively, and when he does step up, he messes up completely. Terrible stuff.

Murray is ahead, and deservedly so.

Coming from a Nadal fan, your logic is astonishingly consistent.
Nadal knows what he is doing. Djokovic looks clue-less out there.
Nadal mentally would never give up like that at 5-6. Remember Nadal has never lost a Grand Slam Final in straight sets, unlike Djokovic.

Amri,

I don't possess Tenez's angelic patience, so I'll leave you to his education.

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