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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:35 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I find it embarrassing to have to repeat the same stuff all the time.

As do I .... Laugh

noleisthebest wrote:You obviously have some agenda and push it regardless of what anybody you disagree here with say and do it either by ignoring the replies or by diverting the point onto something totally different.

I have no agenda. Let the best player on the day win and in a good match. Winking

noleisthebest wrote:It's difficult, time-consuming, draining and pointless go go around in circles. You may enjoy it, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

I clearly asked it earlier, and quote it again,

noleisthebest wrote:
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... of the accusation that Murray was given preferential treatment. You are not reading my posts in it's entirety. We can stop discussing this, if you are not interested. Are you?

I knew you'd run out of steam.....GSM
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Here is another of your comments...

noleisthebest wrote:
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Veejay wrote:Murray gets an extra day off
A couple of hours tomorrow. I am pretty sure Djokovic will sleep tonight, correct?
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noleisthebest wrote:I look forward to hearing you say something good about Djokovic or Federer, rather than continually try to defend the honour of Anglo-saxon tennis. That's the players' job kind of thing.

Media only make it worse by shoving it down everyone's throat. Nobody's stupid.

I am not defending any one player. I argued, and am still arguing about Nadal and the doping innuendo that I see on OTF. I like both Federer and Djokovic as well as Nadal and Murray. Not a single player is perfect, and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.

I like what each of them brings to the court. I have zero emotional attachement to any Scottish, Serbian, Swiss, Argentinian, Czech or Spanish player. For the record, I still would like Operacion Puerto be made public, in it's entirety. I also would like the French media to stand up for their reporting integrity and rely less on innuendo. Winking

If you attach yourself to a single player, it becomes difficult to make sense of what one observes. May I suggest that you read HM Murdoch's thread on v2, if you feel so inclined.


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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:46 pm

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Not a single player is perfect,
and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.

I don't. I love tennis much more than some players' selfishness. No one is bigger than the sport.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:11 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
laverfan wrote:

Not a single player is perfect,
and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.

I don't. I love tennis much more than some players' selfishness. No one is bigger than the sport.

When looked at from this angle, I am more with NITB. Certainly would not want to "accept all players, just the way they are". That is a dangerous proposition, pretty much invitation for all kinds of abuse.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:19 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
laverfan wrote:

Not a single player is perfect,
and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.

I don't. I love tennis much more than some players' selfishness. No one is bigger than the sport.

When looked at from this angle, I am more with NITB. Certainly would not want to "accept all players, just the way they are". That is a dangerous proposition, pretty much invitation for all kinds of abuse.

Come on SB, you cannot be serious. NITB's logics are flawed, she castigates Murray for being anti tennis but cannot see the same for Djoker. One parameter for Murray and another for Djoker. She is blinkered and hypocrite and I can see that.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:21 pm

great point by Ferret. Come on Ferret!

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:22 pm

Another one open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107 Djoker getting his own doasage of medicine.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:23 pm

wow3 wrote:Come on SB, you cannot be serious. NITB's logics are flawed, she castigates Murray for being anti tennis but cannot see the same for Djoker. One parameter for Murray and another for Djoker. She is blinkered and hypocrite and I can see that.
I was not addressing any of that. smiley All I was referring to was the "accept all players just the way they are" statement.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:23 pm

First set Ferret open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 4052418255 Aggressive Djoker stood rooted to baseline.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:25 pm

Good to see Ferrer win the first game. I could have so easily seen him coming here and letting the first set slip, which would have been pretty sad.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:28 pm

summerblues wrote:
wow3 wrote:Come on SB, you cannot be serious. NITB's logics are flawed, she castigates Murray for being anti tennis but cannot see the same for Djoker. One parameter for Murray and another for Djoker. She is blinkered and hypocrite and I can see that.
I was not addressing any of that. open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 650269930 All I was referring to was the "accept all players just the way they are" statement.

Sorry my bad English. Even I will disagree with that slightly but I strongly disgree on one rule for one another rule for someone else.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:31 pm

Ferrer in trouble right from the start here. Would not be surprised to see Nole take care of him quite quickly. Hope not.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:32 pm

Yeah, Djoker seems to be playing a very aggressive game here, chasing every ball down open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107

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Good umpiring open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 4052418255

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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:39 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
laverfan wrote:

Not a single player is perfect,
and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.

I don't. I love tennis much more than some players' selfishness. No one is bigger than the sport.

When looked at from this angle, I am more with NITB. Certainly would not want to "accept all players, just the way they are". That is a dangerous proposition, pretty much invitation for all kinds of abuse.

They all have the ability to learn and play within established rules of the game. For example, I would suggest watching Murray's post-match interview, where he says that because of conditions, the 20 second rule could have been enforced, but was not.

I have no desire to impose my will on any player. The sport is bigger than one specific player. If Murray-Berdych can play in windy conditions, so can Djokovic-Ferrer.

Looking at this set, Ferrer hit 6+ shots to each corner, and guess who drew the error and got a break. Laugh Attrition tennis at it's best. Winking

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:42 pm

So Murray is a pusher and what aout Djoker who has won all the points vritually gifted to him by Ferret. All he has to do is just to put the ball back in the play. Great tennis.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:43 pm

laverfan wrote:They all have the ability to learn and play within established rules of the game. For example, I would suggest watching Murray's post-match interview, where he says that because of conditions, the 20 second rule could have been enforced, but was not.

I have no desire to impose my will on any player. The sport is bigger than one specific player. If Murray-Berdych can play in windy conditions, so can Djokovic-Ferrer.

Looking at this set, Ferrer hit 6+ shots to each corner, and guess who drew the error and got a break. open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363 Attrition tennis at it's best. open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 1071211947
I agree with all that. It was literally that one statement about accepting players the way they are where I disagree.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:43 pm

summerblues wrote:Ferrer in trouble right from the start here. Would not be surprised to see Nole take care of him quite quickly. Hope not.

WOke up from the kip GO NOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 151447854 open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 273093567

AND YES, IT'S Nole time open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2774444739

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:44 pm

[quote="laverfan"][quote="summerblues"][quote="noleisthebest"]
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Not a single player is perfect,
and never will be. I accept all players with their humanity, just the way they are.


Looking at this set, Ferrer hit 6+ shots to each corner, and guess who drew the error and got a break. open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363 Attrition tennis at it's best. open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 1071211947


Djoker's coach has surely discussed the plan overnight. We can clearly see as who got benefitted more out of this break so unfair on Ferret.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:45 pm

Now ignore mode will be on as hypocrisy has been exposed open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2786941968

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:46 pm

Behold The Best and his glorious talent open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 151447854

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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:47 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Behold The Best and his glorious talent open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 151447854

Where was it yesterday when conditions were adverse? Devil

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:48 pm

laverfan wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Behold The Best and his glorious talent open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 151447854

Where was it yesterday when conditions were adverse? open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 3099823284

Best with dirty tricks, attritional tennis at its best. How many winners by djoker in the second set? probably zero open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:48 pm

This is how a multiple slam winner plays tennis: with heart and fire, not pushing the ball about.
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:49 pm

noleisthebest wrote:This is how a multiple slam winner plays tennis: with heart and fire, not pushing the ball about.
Nole, the Wonderful open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 83870220

Pushing the ball with lungs and legs. Surely Djoker has taken his magic potion for today which is helping him to chase down all those balls.

Pathetic tennis, open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:51 pm

Only thing which is best today is HYPOCRISY!

Even the crowd can see that is firmly behind Ferret, no wonder why open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 123628122

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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:51 pm

wow3 wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:This is how a multiple slam winner plays tennis: with heart and fire, not pushing the ball about.
Nole, the Wonderful open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 83870220

Pushing the ball with lungs and legs. Surely Djoker has taken his magic potion for today which is helping him to chase down all those balls.

Pathetic tennis, open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107

Variety of styles. If this is the future of tennis, so be it. We, as spectators, have a choice. Winking

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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:52 pm

No bagel, bit more respectable.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:55 pm

Great net play by multi-slam winner open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:57 pm

WHAT A POINT!!!!!!!NOLE open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 83870220

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:57 pm

This is not tennis open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107 looks more like sprint as who can run more.

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Ferrer getting into it a little bit.

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Post by Veejay Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Ferrer is turning out to be quite a tough challenge for Djokovic,Djokovic really struggling to close this set out

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:03 pm

I would love to see ferret tiring djoker out and I am sure that egg chamber is no more available.

Attiritional tennis at its best open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 4052418255 and also the Hypocrisy.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:08 pm

This is even worse than WTA open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107 , no effort at all to win points just do splits and keep the ball in play.

No wonder crowd is with Daveed.

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Slicing open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107 open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2786941968

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:11 pm

Murray will be dreaming of being chased by Apache Inidans again after watching Nole dismantling Ferrer WITHOUT the first serve....

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:18 pm

Great tennis, chase, chase and more chase. Tennis at its disgusting best open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 563610107

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:19 pm

Nole trying to end the match as fast as possible.

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Joke oif the day open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:24 pm

NITB, in all honesty, did you really enjoy that last rally?

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Post by Tenez Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:24 pm

paulcz wrote:Congratulatiosn to Andy,who could better adjust his game to the wind.Tomas said that the conditions were so bad that organizers should move that match to another day. He felt his chance but could not rely on his serve, which is a base of his game. His game was just broken up due to this. To play in such a windy conditions is likewise to play when raining. So, next time they wlll play with raincoats and we see a "sliding" show. That was not a good match.

This is what I was saying yesterday. Berdych having such a high throw made his serving particularly more difficult.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:24 pm

summerblues wrote:NITB, in all honesty, did you really enjoy that last rally?

which one?

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:25 pm

Ferrer coming from 30-40 to deuce.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:26 pm

Broken back tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Djoker trying to finish it early open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363 open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363 open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Ferrer at his pushies, retrieviest, ugliest...USO organisers deserve no better open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 4006036031

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Ferrer breaks back! Wow. Not my tpe of tennis these two are playying though Sad

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:28 pm

The effect of magic potion wearig out.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:30 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Ferrer at his pushies, retrieviest, ugliest...USO organisers deserve no better open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 4006036031

Another cracker of a joke. Now blame the organisers open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363

I too have one joke to say. You play shite tennis and wins slams then one day another pusher comes in who plays shiter tennis than you and beats you in your own game open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 2033450363 (you=djoker, some one=Ferret).

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:31 pm

summerblues wrote:Ferrer breaks back! Wow. Not my tpe of tennis these two are playying though open - US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL - Page 5 1371890812
nobody likes watching grinding Ferrer plays. Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points. He needs his first serve back.

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