US OPEN 2012 MEN'S SEMI-FINAL

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:Ferrer breaks back! Wow. Not my tpe of tennis these two are playying though

nobody likes watching grinding Ferrer plays. Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points. He needs his first serve back.

It seems the other way round at the stadium, hardly any support for Djoker.

Seems like MTO time is coming. I am not wrong when I branded Djoker as Nadal version 2.

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

Denial is another form of hypocrisy.

Nole breaks again. A little wobblier this set but should be able to sail home from here.

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

It's not his fault he is having to play in the era of fitness Godzillas such as Nadal. You should be grateful he's got him out of picture and saved tennis

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

It's not his fault he is having to play in the era of fitness Godzillas such as Nadal. You should be grateful he's got him out of picture and saved tennis

That's exactly we say but the criteria and parameters are different for Murray, why? I know you don't have guts to reply to me but I have unmasked you here, nitb.

All in all, good set from Nole. Win one more and be done without too much fuss.

A bit of grinding a bit of counter-punching a bit of lasering the corners....and the job is done. Nice!

Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

wow3 wrote:Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

LOL I know you do. For me it is a bit different. I do not have a strong preference between Andy and Nole, and I will be happy to have a match where they are both fit and ready to go. I will probably be rooting for Andy, but not to the point I would want him to play a tired Nole.

Anyway, does not look like it is going to be long afternoon for Nole.

I think organisers have paid good money to Ferret to lose so they can sell the final as no one will watch Murray- Ferret final.

How lucky Djoker is!

summerblues wrote:

wow3 wrote:Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

LOL I know you do. For me it is a bit different. I do not have a strong preference between Andy and Nole, and I will be happy to have a match where they are both fit and ready to go. I will probably be rooting for Andy, but not to the point I would want him to play a tired Nole.

why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?
Just curious?
I know some here root for Murray because it makes them feel English, what's our reason?

summerblues wrote:

wow3 wrote:Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

LOL I know you do. For me it is a bit different. I do not have a strong preference between Andy and Nole, and I will be happy to have a match where they are both fit and ready to go. I will probably be rooting for Andy, but not to the point I would want him to play a tired Nole.

I too liked Djoko before but unnecessary criticism of Murray by few have forced me to think like this. My arguments are just counter arguments to prove that Djoker is no different than Murray.

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

wow3 wrote:Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

LOL I know you do. For me it is a bit different. I do not have a strong preference between Andy and Nole, and I will be happy to have a match where they are both fit and ready to go. I will probably be rooting for Andy, but not to the point I would want him to play a tired Nole.

why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?
Just curious?
I know some here root for Murray because it makes them feel English, what's our reason?

read for yourself. Now blinkered as well in addition to hypocrite. What a bad attempt to WUM.

Like supporting djoker makes you feel serbian. Grow up ffs

noleisthebest wrote:why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?

That is a loaded question.

I guess I could root for Nole who plays endless points and pushes the ball around with no grace instead...

As I say, it is pretty close for me. They both play similar style, I kind of like them both but I am not particlarly strong fan of either of them.

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?

That is a loaded question.

I guess I could root for Nole who plays endless points and pushes the ball around with no grace instead...

As I say, it is pretty close for me. They both play similar style, I kind of like them both but I am not particlarly strong fan of either of them.

Only to the untrained eye. Murray and Nole are two very different players.

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

wow3 wrote:Sb, I want Ferrer to tire Djoker more because we are going to witness another slugfest tomorrow and it will be advantage Murray if Djoker gets spent today.

LOL I know you do. For me it is a bit different. I do not have a strong preference between Andy and Nole, and I will be happy to have a match where they are both fit and ready to go. I will probably be rooting for Andy, but not to the point I would want him to play a tired Nole.

why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?
Just curious?
I know some here root for Murray because it makes them feel English, what's our reason?

And that's precisely djoker chickened off from Madrid masters alongwith his idol Nadull.

Nole 3:0 and serving

Thats it now we will have to wait for an allround Andy Murray to school djoker in playing real tennis.

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?

That is a loaded question.

I guess I could root for Nole who plays endless points and pushes the ball around with no grace instead...

As I say, it is pretty close for me. They both play similar style, I kind of like them both but I am not particlarly strong fan of either of them.

Mind you, Murray has been trying to copy a bit of Nole's aggression, you can't blame him for trying...

Nole on 27 matches unbeaten streak in hard-court slams.

Everyone's gone quiet. I wonder why

I want Nole to serve it out wih a max one point lost. COME ON NOLEEEEEE

Well done Nole. Won it today without too much fuss. Should be good for tomorrow. Too bad I will not be able to watch

Nole

Smart interview from Nole, avoiding the mudpit.

summerblues wrote:Well done Nole. Won it today without too much fuss. Should be good for tomorrow. Too bad I will not be able to watch

don't worry, you won't miss much, just plenty of bruising boring physical retreiving....

Nole played his average today, but it is still enough to go through Feru. To make it funny, if Feru had +10cm and stopped smoking, the difference is marginal. Feru did not play badly, he tried to get close to the base line and dictate rallies, but when they started to play angles his shorter hand was appeared. Higher Feru would also mean better serve. So, there is no space for smaller player nowadays Smoking makes people shorter

Congratulations to Nole

Novak keeps the tradition of defending USO champions reaching the finals.

Wonderful win for Nole. Another easy one. Andy Murray look out

paulcz wrote:Nole played his average today, but it is still enough to go through Feru. To make it funny, if Feru had +10cm and stopped smoking, the difference is marginal. Feru did not play badly, he tried to get close to the base line and dictate rallies, but when they started to play angles his shorter hand was appeared. Higher Feru would also mean better serve. So, there is no space for smaller player nowadays Smoking makes people shorter

Congratulations to Nole

He played enough to get the job done easily. Very smart match from him.
Taller Ferru = Andy Murray

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

It's not his fault he is having to play in the era of fitness Godzillas such as Nadal. You should be grateful he's got him out of picture and saved tennis

Record count:

Slams-
Nadal 11-5 Djokovic

H2H-
Nadal 19-14 Djokovic

Last 3 matches-
Nadal 3-0 Djokovic

H2H in Slams-
Nadal 4-3 Djokovic

Ouch.

Well done Djokovic.

Ferrer. Did not have enough wind on the court, and in his sails, to trouble Djokovic .

Amritia3ee wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

It's not his fault he is having to play in the era of fitness Godzillas such as Nadal. You should be grateful he's got him out of picture and saved tennis

Record count:

Slams-
Nadal 11-5 Djokovic

H2H-
Nadal 19-14 Djokovic

Last 3 matches-
Nadal 3-0 Djokovic

H2H in Slams-
Nadal 4-3 Djokovic

Ouch.

Djoko has saved tennis? - Praise the Lawd - Djoko is Jeeeeesus of the tennis world! Amen

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Nole will be on top of him soon, dictating and playing shorter points.

Nole did not win his 5 slams by "playing shorter points". Obviously, good for him, he figured out what it took to succeed and executed. But let's not kid ourselves about the style of game he plays.

It's not his fault he is having to play in the era of fitness Godzillas such as Nadal. You should be grateful he's got him out of picture and saved tennis

By cloning and being better version of a mouse trap, the base is still a mouse trap. It is just a different name tag, and perhaps different allegiances and legions of fans.

If you like that, wonderful.

The last time Federer played a 5+ hour match was in Rome 2006 on clay. We know AO 2012 very well, that too on HC.

mikeyM1000 wrote:Djoko has saved tennis? - Praise the Lawd - Djoko is Jeeeeesus of the tennis world! Amen

Amritia may have a different Jesus, Mikey.

To each their own.

mikeyM1000 wrote:Djoko has saved tennis? - Praise the Lawd - Djoko is Jeeeeesus of the tennis world! Amen

Yes Mike imagine 2011 WITHOUT Nole.....how many slams would that have been for Nadal....

noleisthebest wrote:

paulcz wrote:Nole played his average today, but it is still enough to go through Feru. To make it funny, if Feru had +10cm and stopped smoking, the difference is marginal. Feru did not play badly, he tried to get close to the base line and dictate rallies, but when they started to play angles his shorter hand was appeared. Higher Feru would also mean better serve. So, there is no space for smaller player nowadays Smoking makes people shorter

Congratulations to Nole

He played enough to get the job done easily. Very smart match from him.
Taller Ferru = Andy Murray

Nole tried out some transitions to the net with volleys, played slices. When it did not work out well he came back to his patient game and it went in Nole´s favor. Andy would struggle with this Ferru, they would play another +2 hours.

Not easy to play with these "smokers" for anybody

paulcz wrote:

Nole tried out some transitions to the net with volleys, played slices. When it did not work out well he came back to his patient game and it went in Nole´s favor. Andy would struggle with this Ferru, they would play another +2 hours.

Not easy to play with these "smokers" for anybody

I'm glad Nole did the job efficiently today and did not spend too much energy. He should be fully ready for a glorious trophy lift tomorrow

P.S.
hopefully dumb yanks will spell his name correctly on the trophy this time

noleisthebest wrote:

mikeyM1000 wrote:Djoko has saved tennis? - Praise the Lawd - Djoko is Jeeeeesus of the tennis world! Amen

Yes Mike imagine 2011 WITHOUT Nole.....how many slams would that have been for Nadal....

Yeah we can thank him for that, but it's a bit like being rescued from Saddam by George Bush

Just looking through this thread, and I have noticed huge double standards again:

noleisthebest wrote:

summerblues wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?

That is a loaded question.

I guess I could root for Nole who plays endless points and pushes the ball around with no grace instead...

As I say, it is pretty close for me. They both play similar style, I kind of like them both but I am not particlarly strong fan of either of them.

Only to the untrained eye. Murray and Nole are two very different players.

This was interesting, NITB clearly hinting Summerblues has an 'untrained eye.'
Let's get this clear, Summerblues I believe is one of the best posters I have seen, in analysis and description. A better poster than me, I would say.
Now let's go back to Nadal's win over Djokovic in Rome. NITB said the tennis flag flies 'at half-mast' whenever Nadal wins, an interesting opinion.
Then when I questioned the premise of the article I was told that 'Nadal was rubbish' and if I did not accept that 'I was in denial.' When I asked NITB why she thought Nadal was 'rubbish' I got no answer.
Is this the type of eye Summerblues should try to gain? It is unfortunate SB does not have 2020 vision like some of us

noleisthebest wrote:why would you be rooting for gutless Murray who plays endless points and muscles and pushes the ball around with no grace?

Perhaps we can analyse this interesting hypothesis. WOW has already expressed he feels there is double-standards here, and let me investigate this.

We are led to believe-
-Murray and Nadal plays 'pushing' 'endless' tennis.
-Djokovic meanwhile is meant to play 'attacking tennis'
This is simply a ridiculous statement that we are meant to accept.
Of course when Nadal and Murray do something, they should be slated' but when pointed out that Djokovic uses very similar tactics we are told Djokovic was somehow made to do it, and that nothing is his fault. Huge hypocrisy I'm afraid.

[quote="]
We are led to believe-
-Murray and Nadal plays 'pushing' 'endless' tennis.
-Djokovic meanwhile is meant to play 'attacking tennis'
This is simply a ridiculous statement that we are meant to accept.
Of course when Nadal and Murray do something, they should be slated' but when pointed out that Djokovic uses very similar tactics we are told Djokovic was somehow made to do it, and that nothing is his fault. Huge hypocrisy I'm afraid. [/quote]



At least we have a choice to follow or not to follow this comical posts. The best joke was that USO organisers has conspired for djoker's loss. This forum is getting funnier day by day.

Amrit who do you think will win tomorrow?

And I want to make everyone clear that I don't hate Djoker, my arguments were only to prove the hollowness of blinkered posters.

A poster who used to be paranoid about every other poster being HE is actually turning to HawkEye

wow3 wrote:[
Amrit who do you think will win tomorrow?

Am about to post a preview on v2

Amritia3ee wrote:

wow3 wrote:[
Amrit who do you think will win tomorrow?

Am about to post a preview on v2

Post it here as well. You canpost it as a comment on Paul's post, no? For sure

Amritia3ee wrote:
This was interesting, NITB clearly hinting Summerblues has an 'untrained eye.'
Let's get this clear, Summerblues I believe is one of the best posters I have seen, in analysis and description. A better poster than me, I would say.
.

I prefer Tenez's school of thought