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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:48 am

After a very gloomy day3, the tournament waits for no man. Fed's run of 35 QFs ends here. If there is still some interest in this wimbledon left, we should look forward to it.

1. Daniel Brands (GER)
v
Tomas Berdych (CZE) [7]


2. James Blake (USA)
v
Bernard Tomic (AUS)


3. Jesse Levine (CAN)
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Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) [8]


4. Santiago Giraldo (COL)
v
Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR) [26]


Any more matches plz add.


I'm still recovering from Fed;s loss yesterday. Cry 

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Post by N2D2L Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:57 am

Berdych
Tomic
Del Porto
Dolgopolov

Don't worry about Fed, he's a class player who will recover.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:02 pm

Looks like no one interested in wimbledon any more.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:03 pm

Lllodra -Seppi going good. Llodra 4-1 and 1 Break up

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:19 pm

now he is a Break down 5-6* and seppi serving for the set.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:22 pm

No rotla, just came back from my play and catching up now!
Berdych, Blake, Del Potro, Dolgopolov

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:14 pm

Sorry Rotla...as you may know I was busy. Winking

1. Daniel Brands (GER)

2. James Blake (USA)

Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) [8]


Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR) [26]

I have not had a chance to look at the score yet!...but please make my choice void if you think it's fair.

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:06 pm

Q. You played so well in your first‑round win. The All England Club asked you to change your footwear. I'm wondering whether that had any effect on your movement.
ROGER FEDERER: No, it didn't have any effect.
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One who does not complain....but interesting to hear that the pros were asked to play with different soles and that may certainly have afftected his confidence in his grounds shots.

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:19 pm

Looking at Igor Sijsling with Rao and have to say that Rao's move looks like Titanic in a pond. Igor is definitely better player on the court.

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:35 pm

Problem is that in those slow conds the serve is not a weapon. Wimbledon has been doing its best to diminish the role of serve and Rao's game is essentially about serve.

So I am in fact not surprised to see him struggle here.....probably worse than the FO for him nowadays.

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:41 pm

Tenez wrote:Problem is that in those slow conds the serve is not a weapon. Wimbledon has been doing its best to diminish the role of serve and Rao's game is essentially about serve.

So I am in fact not surprised to see him struggle here.....probably worse than the FO for him nowadays.

This grass looks a bit clayish. Rao is the player no. 10, so he should also have anything else than serve. Actually I can not remember somebody who moves so clumsy as he does. That is striking.

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:49 pm

The thing is on those slippery surfaces, the taller people are much more at risk than shorter ones so his mouvement is certainly going to be exposed here.

You had plenty of players ranked 10 and above with just a serve. Roddick to start with. Rao has also a great FH but it seems something is wrong with him atm.

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:01 pm

Tenez wrote:The thing is on those slippery surfaces, the taller people are much more at risk than shorter ones so his mouvement is certainly going to be exposed here.

You had plenty of players ranked 10 and above with just a serve. Roddick to start with. Rao has also a great FH but it seems something is wrong with him atm.
Rodick moved much better than Rao. I just can not see tha Rao's move can be improved enough to do another step up to get on real top.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:07 pm

Tenez wrote:Q. You played so well in your first‑round win. The All England Club asked you to change your footwear. I'm wondering whether that had any effect on your movement.
ROGER FEDERER: No, it didn't have any effect.
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One who does not complain....but interesting to hear that the pros were asked to play with different soles and that may certainly have afftected his confidence in his grounds shots.

They didn't like the bright orange colour of the soles of his trainers and I think the Wimbledon logo holding number 7 of his titles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/wimbledon/10142921/Roger-Federer-banned-from-wearing-new-Nike-trainers-at-Wimbledon-because-of-orange-soles.html

Which is lame because all women players seem to wear colourful shorts under their dresses....

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:12 pm

paulcz wrote:
Tenez wrote:The thing is on those slippery surfaces, the taller people are much more at risk than shorter ones so his mouvement is certainly going to be exposed here.

You had plenty of players ranked 10 and above with just a serve. Roddick to start with. Rao has also a great FH but it seems something is wrong with him atm.
Rodick moved much better than Rao. I just can not see tha Rao's move can be improved enough to do another step up to get on real top.

Rao on hard court is actually a good mover for his size. What we see on grass today might not tell the whole truth. He will never be a chang or Nadal but people not so long ago were saying how well he covers teh ground for such a big size. He even beat Murray twice, including once on clay...and one cannot do that with a serve only.

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:15 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Q. You played so well in your first‑round win. The All England Club asked you to change your footwear. I'm wondering whether that had any effect on your movement.
ROGER FEDERER: No, it didn't have any effect.
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One who does not complain....but interesting to hear that the pros were asked to play with different soles and that may certainly have afftected his confidence in his grounds shots.

They didn't like the bright orange colour of the soles of his trainers and I think the Wimbledon logo holding number 7 of his titles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/wimbledon/10142921/Roger-Federer-banned-from-wearing-new-Nike-trainers-at-Wimbledon-because-of-orange-soles.html

Which is lame because all women players seem to wear colourful shorts under their dresses....

If it is teh colour only, it's fine but do we know whether the white ones had teh same specs as teh orange ones?

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:15 pm

I didn't get to see a single point today Blush but hope to catch up now, Dimitrov seems to be struggling against Zemlja

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:17 pm

Tenez wrote:
If it is teh colour only, it's fine but do we know whether the white ones had teh same specs as teh orange ones?

We can only guess. I don't if he played the first match in the orange ones. He must have trained in those as well.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:18 pm

A heart-breaking fact: Dodig is thorugh to round 3 and Fed is not Wah

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:20 pm

Tenez wrote:
paulcz wrote:
Tenez wrote:The thing is on those slippery surfaces, the taller people are much more at risk than shorter ones so his mouvement is certainly going to be exposed here.

You had plenty of players ranked 10 and above with just a serve. Roddick to start with. Rao has also a great FH but it seems something is wrong with him atm.
Rodick moved much better than Rao. I just can not see tha Rao's move can be improved enough to do another step up to get on real top.

Rao on hard court is actually a good mover for his size. What we see on grass today might not tell the whole truth. He will never be a chang or Nadal but people not so long ago were saying how well he covers teh ground for such a big size. He even beat Murray twice, including once on clay...and one cannot do that with a serve only.

Rao is surely on hc much more stabil and plays with more control than on the grass. After I saw his match with Igor I have to say that his poor move affected his composure too much on the court, much more than I would expect it. He struggled with his move so much, that he hardly went to the net for a volley. His overal performance on the grass is a big disappointment for me.

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:26 pm

paulcz wrote: His overal performance on the grass is a big disappointment for me.

..and for me...but again when I saw how slow it was on Monday....I am not that surprised. As mentioned when you have 2 great servers like Fed and Hanescu pulling only 10 aces in 3 sets between the 2 of them.....on fresh grass...just shows how slow the conds are.

Did you see how far back Slijing was standing v Rao? That would have been unthinkable on grass before. He beat Rao playing clay tennis.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:55 pm

Just my luck....rain delay!

It'd better clear tomorrow Grr

Nole match should start soon.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:36 pm

Strange match. Nole moving a bit cautiously, Rayndols free as a bird. Tie-break.

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:44 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Strange match. Nole moving a bit cautiously, Rayndols free as a bird. Tie-break.

So far it is really weirdish match. Nole is not focused on the game properly, too many mistakes. He does not play with an easiness and coolness yet. Hopefully it is going to be better since the second..

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Post by paulcz Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:49 pm

Tenez wrote:
paulcz wrote: His overal performance on the grass is a big disappointment for me.

..and for me...but again when I saw how slow it was on Monday....I am not that surprised. As mentioned when you have 2 great servers like Fed and Hanescu pulling only 10 aces in 3 sets between the 2 of them.....on fresh grass...just shows how slow the conds are.

Did you see how far back Slijing was standing v Rao? That would have been unthinkable on grass before. He beat Rao playing clay tennis.

Yes, Igor stays further behind the BL, not only in that match. Rao's serve forces a player to stand further, no surprise. Look at the final 2008, where a tennis miracle Nadal stood on return then. Igor was two metres closer the BL. Otherwise Igor is enough intelligent to know what works for him well.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:23 pm

2:0 for Nole.

I suppose this is the "get the job done and avoid any upset" scenario for him. Does it safely and with minimal fuss.

Hopefully will relax and have fun soon.
C'mon Nole, light that morgue up diva

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:40 pm

Nole serving for the match, now.
Lovely point & volley for the end, a big smile and a happy Nole is through! Applause

Next, please!

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:49 pm

Interesting comment from Nole in the post-match interview: the conditions were slower when the roof closed compared to his first match.

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:33 pm

Order of play out for tomorrow. I can't believe ALUND!!!!!! is in round three, and not just that, but playing Ferrer. It doesn't get much worse than that....Wah

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Post by Tenez Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:45 pm

It's bad on CC as well. There is nothing to cheer about.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:20 am

It would be interesting to catch the end of Zemlja-Dimitrov (yet to check what time/court). Dimitrov serving to stay in the match at 8:9.


Just read this paragraph, and sounds very interesting:

"Something to think about: Kubot, Paire, Mannarino, Brown, Almagro, Janowicz, Melzer, Stakhovsky—one of these men will be a semifinalist."

It's interesting as well as exciting, isn't it!
The winner will potentially play Murray for the final. Even more interesting !

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:22 am

Tenez wrote:It's bad on CC as well. There is nothing to cheer about.

Actually, it could get worse....it could rain Laugh / Wah

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:35 am

After reading this, Tomic proves the old saying that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

"The players that I think don't get too ahead of themselves, but focus on their matches, have the best chance of winning," said Tomic. "I think a lot of people were happy when Nadal lost. I think Roger was very happy. I think he got ahead of himself - then things turned around."
As pretty much everybody said on Wednesday: "Ouch."


That was a jibe at Federer as a "revenge" for Federer's AO comment in which he said stg similar about Tomic.
The only difference was that Tomic had previously started boasting he was going to beat Federer in that a/o match. As far as I can remember, he received a bit of schooling in tennis from Fed in that match.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21007980

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:21 am

Raonic lost. He had shown so much promise a 18 months ago and looked the one to take things on for the new young players. But he has gone backwards instead. Very disappointing

I think BC may be right when he say the current crop of new young players are simply not good enough to beat the top guys. Leave physicality, they clearly lack in ability and belief itself.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:24 am

noleisthebest wrote:After reading this, Tomic proves the old saying that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

"The players that I think don't get too ahead of themselves, but focus on their matches, have the best chance of winning," said Tomic. "I think a lot of people were happy when Nadal lost. I think Roger was very happy. I think he got ahead of himself - then things turned around."
As pretty much everybody said on Wednesday: "Ouch."


That was a jibe at Federer as a "revenge" for Federer's AO comment in which he said stg similar about Tomic.
The only difference was that Tomic had previously started boasting he was going to beat Federer in that a/o match. As far as I can remember, he received a bit of schooling in tennis from Fed in that match.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21007980

Typical of the big mouth Tomic. He already thinks that when Fed/Nadal/Djokovic have gone there won't be anyone left so he is guaranteed to win slams in future. He is too cocky for the results he has had till now. I doubt he will ever win even a Masters.

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Post by BlueClay Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:56 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Raonic lost. He had shown so much promise a 18 months ago and looked the one to take things on for the new young players. But he has gone backwards instead. Very disappointing

I think BC may be right when he say the current crop of new young players are simply not good enough to beat the top guys. Leave physicality, they clearly lack in ability and belief itself.

This young crop is pathetic thus far.

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Post by Tenez Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:05 am

noleisthebest wrote:After reading this, Tomic proves the old saying that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

"The players that I think don't get too ahead of themselves, but focus on their matches, have the best chance of winning," said Tomic. "I think a lot of people were happy when Nadal lost. I think Roger was very happy. I think he got ahead of himself - then things turned around."
As pretty much everybody said on Wednesday: "Ouch."


That was a jibe at Federer as a "revenge" for Federer's AO comment in which he said stg similar about Tomic.
The only difference was that Tomic had previously started boasting he was going to beat Federer in that a/o match. As far as I can remember, he received a bit of schooling in tennis from Fed in that match.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21007980

And what is Tomic saying there? if not getting ahead of himself by giving lessons to a 17 slams champion when he has yet to reach a 1/4F on one!?

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Post by Tenez Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:17 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's bad on CC as well. There is nothing to cheer about.

Actually, it could get worse....it could rain Laugh/ Wah

It will it seems!

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:22 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's bad on CC as well. There is nothing to cheer about.

Actually, it could get worse....it could rain Laugh/ Wah

It will it seems!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wah
Now
I'll have to lug the umbrella, too.....

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Post by luvsports! Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:27 am

tomic did reach one qf at wimby '11... but yes agreed, arrogant so and so!

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