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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:38 pm

Looks like all bog names are saving for next week though.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:39 pm

Delpo losing the first set 4-6. This is his best chance to grab a masters to his name. Get up Delboy and fight.. Grr

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:47 pm

Reading the summary on the bbc web site it appears that Murray was serving 30/0 for the match and even had MP until he played "carelessly". It makes you wonder how much he wanted to win Paris. As said earlier looks like they are saving themselves for London.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:14 pm

dp gone

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:26 pm

Tenez wrote:Reading the summary on the bbc web site it appears that Murray was serving 30/0 for the match and even had MP until he played "carelessly". It makes you wonder how much he wanted to win Paris. As said earlier looks like they are saving themselves for London.

You are reading too much into a tabloid. If Murray didn't care about this match, why was he abusing and cursing himself and looking frustrated? He should have been relaxed about the match whatever be the outcome. Wasn't case as I saw.


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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:02 pm

Murray was outplayed, end of.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Larry Ellison on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:04 pm

He tanked.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:44 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:He tanked.

Have you given a thought to tanking yourself Amritia. Tanking as in really "tanking" yourself.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:48 pm

Looks like its not even Raonic who will win this masters. Who's left now to claim the trophy?? Tipsy Yikes ?? What a horrible thought. Run


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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Larry Ellison on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:49 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:He tanked.

Have you given a thought to tanking yourself Amritia. Tanking as in really "tanking" yourself.
Not everyone thinks like you ROTLA Hug

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:51 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:He tanked.

Have you given a thought to tanking yourself Amritia. Tanking as in really "tanking" yourself.
Not everyone thinks like you ROTLA Hug

I was only kidding. Thanks for the Hug . But I don't know why I start to feel mischievous when you are around.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:52 pm

I'm glad we never had prediction game for Bercy

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:54 pm

Tomorrow, survival of the fittest:

Simon-Berdych
Janowicz-Tipsarevic
Tsonga-Ferrer
Llodra-Querrey

I am absolutely loving there are none of the top 4 left.
How about Janowicz - Querrey for a final

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:23 pm

come on polski!

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:31 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Reading the summary on the bbc web site it appears that Murray was serving 30/0 for the match and even had MP until he played "carelessly". It makes you wonder how much he wanted to win Paris. As said earlier looks like they are saving themselves for London.

You are reading too much into a tabloid. If Murray didn't care about this match, why was he abusing and cursing himself and looking frustrated? He should have been relaxed about the match whatever be the outcome. Wasn't case as I saw.


Remember Rotla about MUrrays match in Cincy when he lost to Chardy? You thought that Chardy played better and Murray did not tank.....but 3 weeks later who won the USO?

And now DP gets out too...DP who beat Federer a few days ago. Looks like those top players are focused on WTF....which is good..but bad for Paris.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by summerblues on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:21 am

noleisthebest wrote:When Berd was serving to stay in the match (and you know how important serve is to Berd, and how fussy his prep is), Nishi started disrupting him big time, like stop Berd and walk to towel himself etc.

Ok, not very nice but that does not strike me as so far outside of what many of them do. I think I will still root for him. But not in this tournament anymore Sad

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:26 am

why not in THIS tournament?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by summerblues on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:29 am

noleisthebest wrote:why not in THIS tournament?

Kind of pointless to root for him in this one now that he is gone. I am not even sure who to root for here anymore. Maybe Jerzy? It would be something if he could go deep.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:34 am

summerblues wrote:
Kind of pointless to root for him in this one now that he is gone.

I'll blame it on the lack of sleep. Good night

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by summerblues on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:43 am

Good night.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by laverfan on Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:51 am

Llodra-Tsonga and Janowicz-Simon SF with a Llodra-Simon final and Llodra to win.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:17 am

laverfan wrote:Llodra-Tsonga and Janowicz-Simon SF with a Llodra-Simon final and Llodra to win.

I'd love that too.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by mikeyM1000 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:48 am

A bit gutted Delpo went out - i thought he was on for the hat-trick. Must have been a bit knackered.

C'mon Tsonga. Tsonga-Llodra would be a good one - oif that happens, it's tomorrow, right?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by SayonaRa on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:59 am

Tenez wrote: As said earlier looks like they are saving themselves for London.

C'mon, ten, say it straight, so you think Djoko, murray and delpo all tanked for the wtf?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:38 am

SR wrote:
Tenez wrote: As said earlier looks like they are saving themselves for London.

C'mon, ten, say it straight, so you think Djoko, murray and delpo all tanked for the wtf?

Yes....and if you knew me better you'd know I 'd have no qualm saying it.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:09 am

Winking

Only Ferrer seems relentless. Is it because he thinks he has a great chance to win a TMS1000 while very little to win matches next week?

BTW when are the pools decided?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by SayonaRa on Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 pm

I think you're right, but Ferrer plays the same way no matter. It's like he never thinks, just hit and hit and hit.

I also think Tsonga will win it, also it'd be nice to see Llodra get there.

The thing with the tanking that I don't understand is this: if it's true that they dope, then why do they need the rest? Why can't they keep going like they're supposed to with the aid of PEDs?

"pools", what's that?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by SayonaRa on Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:43 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
laverfan wrote:
SR wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
And he does it!
I'm happy for Querrey, he's a nice guy.
OMG, NITB, a straight set loss. I'm sorry.

What happened?


Querrey d Djokovic 0-6, 7-6(5), 6-4.

Real good match and very well played Querrey. I remember Nadal lost too in similar manner to Davydenko in Doha. Nadal won the first set 6-0 then very closely lost the 2nd in TB and then in a close 3rd lost it. In fact that 3rd was worst, Nadal was a break up and 15*-40 looking for a double break.. then Davy turned it all on its head breaking Nadal twice and winning it. That was a great match. So was this.


Thanks for the summary. So you don't think Djoko tanked?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:51 pm

SR wrote:I think you're right, but Ferrer plays the same way no matter. It's like he never thinks, just hit and hit and hit.

Completely agree. He seems just happy to run after a ball all day.

I also think Tsonga will win it, also it'd be nice to see Llodra get there.


Has Ferrer ever won a TMS? Not sure now. But yes Llodra is one of my favourite player.

The thing with the tanking that I don't understand is this: if it's true that they dope, then why do they need the rest? Why can't they keep going like they're supposed to with the aid of PEDs?
I guess because all drugs have side effects and they need to clear their bodies for longer periods. For instance it's clear that LA coudl have won many other races but chose to concentrate on the most prestigious. But also cause though PEDdo what tehyt are supposed to do, they probably have limitations. Acid lactic for instance accumulate in muscles cells and there is no way they can rid it all every day and allow same performance day in day out all year round. Drugs I guess improve performance and recovery but they cannot completely substract an athlete from basic physiological conditions.

Like there is no drug that can keep you young for ever.


"pools", what's that?
I meant the round robins draw. (who plays who).

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:10 pm

simon dumps out berdych smiley
and tipsy is a set up against polski Sad

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:13 pm

JJ looking a bit flat. Tips definitely not tanking this one.

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Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:21 pm

Perked up now. Impressive hand to eye coordination (according to my theory).

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by laverfan on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:22 pm

http://twitter.com/search/%23finalshowdown

Draws on Saturday.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:29 pm

JJ wild, raw and a tad bit scary in his loud, guttoral fistpumps.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:33 pm

great hold come on polski!!

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:40 pm

SR wrote: Thanks for the summary. So you don't think Djoko tanked?

I'm not much into tanking theory. However I do believe some players don't try to put their absolutely best head and heart into some matches. They may not take that loss with a heavy heart but that doesn't mean they didn't try to win. They might be a bit casual about it.

It was the 2nd round and his first match. Top players don't enjoy losing in their opening match. Infact no one would. The first set went so easy for Djokovic in 20 min and and early break for 2-0 in 2nd, its could easily look for him that he already has the match in his bag. I do think he could be a bit casual from then on, but I won't say he was ready to lose the match before it even started. So no 'tanking' for me.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:46 pm

6-1 2nd set to polski come on!!!

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:47 pm

JJ on fire: the ball, the court , his body are one - all made of the same atoms right now

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:48 pm

luvsports! wrote:simon dumps out berdych smiley

Simon tops my list of the most ugly and talentless among the current players. The only way he gets point is when the oppoent makes an error because Simon bores them to death. He doesn't have any tennis weapons of any kind.

His first serves are around 160-170 KM/h, never looking to make anything out of it.
His ground stroke are slow, low pace safe balls just to keep the rally going. His tennis is so weak he can't even force an error. He just can hope for an error. I can't believe he can have nay fans for this ugly tennis.

Berdych was prepared for it, but alas!! couldn't hold his patience long enough.

I just want to see someone thrash the hell out of this ugly player. Angry

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:50 pm

each to their own i guess.

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Post by Veejay on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:57 pm

Simon tops my list of the most ugly and talentless among the current players. The only way he gets point is when the oppoent makes an error because Simon bores them to death. He doesn't have any tennis weapons of any kind.

I guess this is why some call his a poor mans version of Murray

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by ... on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:19 pm

And JJ is through!!!!!!
I don't know what the problem was, but pretty lame of Tipsarevic to retire at 1:5 down in the third.
He did the same fairly recently, don't get it.

JJ is one very, very, veeeeeeeeery hugnry young man.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:39 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:I'm not much into tanking theory. However I do believe some players don't try to put their absolutely best head and heart into some matches. They may not take that loss with a heavy heart but that doesn't mean they didn't try to win. They might be a bit casual about it.

AT that level, that's all it takes to lose a match and that's what I call tanking.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:40 pm

noleisthebest wrote:And JJ is through!!!!!!
I don't know what the problem was, but pretty lame of Tipsarevic to retire at 1:5 down in the third.
He did the same fairly recently, don't get it.

JJ is one very, very, veeeeeeeeery hugnry young man.

Yes very disgraceful from Tsip-big-legs!

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by luvsports! on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:48 pm

I agree he should have gone on until the end but i thought he was very nice to jj after in congratulating him on the win.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:14 pm

luvsports! wrote:I agree he should have gone on until the end but i thought he was very nice to jj after in congratulating him on the win.

I did not watch the match actually so good on Tsip....though I don't and never liked him.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:25 pm

How stupid is this to start the 3rd semi at 7.30? and the fourth probably not before 9 at the earliest?

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:30 pm

Ferrer would not be a top 20 player without those strings.

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Re: ATP MASTERS 1000: Paris Bercy

Post by Veejay on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:49 pm

Tenez wrote:Ferrer would not be a top 20 player without those strings.

Laugh
I dont think its just the strings...
He seems to beat his opponents more with his athleticism rather then shot making

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