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Post by noleisthebest Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:33 am

After weeks of cruel sun and every muscle and sinew tugged and tested with the blood, sweat and tears of clay, tennis finally finds its soft landing on grass.

This time, it's here with us for one week longer than last year.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:52 am

Nadal is shown to be playing even Queens London. That mean he will be looking to play 2 tournaments in 3 weeks before wimbledon.

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Post by gallery play Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:57 am

Hertogenbosch (i like to hear you to pronounce this.. Big Grin ) booked some nice (grass) players. Maybe scoring some tickets wouldn't be such a bad idea..
Tsonga has withdrawn though

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:31 pm

Top 10 looks a nit different this week Winking

Rank, Name & Nationality Points Week Change Tourn Played
1 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 13,845 0 18
2 Federer, Roger (SUI) 9,415 0 19
3 Murray, Andy (GBR) 7,040 0 22
4 Wawrinka, Stan (SUI) 5,835 5 22
5 Nishikori, Kei (JPN) 5,570 0 22
6 Berdych, Tomas (CZE) 5,050 -2 23
7 Ferrer, David (ESP) 4,490 1 24
8 Raonic, Milos (CAN) 4,440 -2 23
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO) 3,460 1 21
10 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 2,930 -3 20

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Post by Tenez Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:59 pm

the biggest change in the top 100!

87 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT) 600 -58 24

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:09 pm

Tenez wrote:the biggest change in the top 100!

87 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT) 600 -58 24
Had to be, the way he has been playing he shouldn't even be in top-100

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Post by Tenez Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:34 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:the biggest change in the top 100!

87 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT) 600 -58 24
Had to be, the way he has been playing he shouldn't even be in top-100
According to you he should be exactly 87! Nothing more nothing less, isn't? Winking

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:09 pm

The draw is out for Stuttgart. Nadal could be playing Rosol in R1...

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Post by Tenez Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:00 pm

09.06.2015 R32 (8) V Troicki defeats B Coric 62 60
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Yep Coric, on grass the ball travels a bit faster than your legs.

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Post by gallery play Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:05 pm

I watched Nadal-Tomic this afternoon.
Funny match. While Tomic was doing a "Gulbis,-i-can-play-tennis-even-more-careless-than-you", Nadal's hyperactivity was reaching new heights.
Every point he scored there was either a "vamos", "yay" or fistpump. His team was also not exactly the paragon of tranquility.

Expect a very nervous Nadal first week Wimbledon. He'd better be stopped by a lowranked player though.  Because once he's the underdog, and the grass is dry he'll be quite hard to beat.

A fourth round Nadal-Federer is possible right?

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Post by Tenez Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:14 pm

gallery play wrote:I watched Nadal-Tomic this afternoon.
Funny match. While Tomic was doing a "Gulbis,-i-can-play-tennis-even-more-careless-than-you", Nadal's hyperactivity was reaching new heights.
Every point he scored there was either a "vamos", "yay" or fistpump. His team was also not exactly the paragon of tranquility.

Expect a very nervous Nadal first week Wimbledon. He'd better be stopped by a lowranked player though.  Because once he's the underdog, and the grass is dry he'll be quite hard to beat.

A fourth round Nadal-Federer is possible right?

Very true.

As I saw some of it too...Tomic's mouvement was really poor. One can't afford that kind of mouvement versus Nadal.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:50 pm

I haven't seen any tennis this week but am always annoyed with Tomic...so much talent there and so utterly, utterly wasted...lazy legs, no heart.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:23 pm

Btw, what was Nadal like?

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:06 pm

And Nadal breaks Monfils to serve for the match in the second set.

But of course Nadal asked Monfils to wait at BP with a racquet sign. The disgusting is that Nadal was ready, and asked Monfils repeteadly to hold until.....Monfils finally saw Nadal's request when frankly there was no reason for Nadal to delay Monfils serve.

Monfils is a clown and would not have won today but again, Nadal making sure Monfils just got a bit rattled on an important point.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:07 pm

So who is on the other side in the final?

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:10 pm

Thanks for the updates, T.
I hope to catch up tomorrow.

How is Nadal playing, anything "new"?

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:47 pm

Troicki or Cilic.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:21 pm

Tenez wrote:Troicki or Cilic .

"I can't wait for the final!"

Troicki said after beating Cilic.
I echo the sentiment.
Came back just in time! diva

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:24 am

The new ATP website is really useless, I can't even find the shedule of play let alone what time the final starts today!!! Grr
Anyone knows?

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:37 am

.....he, he...where there is a will there is a way Cool

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:45 am

gallery play wrote:Hertogenbosch (i like to hear you to pronounce this.. Big Grin ) booked some nice (grass) players. Maybe scoring some tickets wouldn't be such a bad idea..
Tsonga has withdrawn though

Did you get to see anything?
There is no  clickable link on new ATP website about the tournament, only for Stuttgart.
So frustrating!!!!

Why does everything money touches have to go down the pan.... Angry

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:57 pm

So, my first view of grass since Wimbledon!
Untouched inside the court. Well worn far behind the base-line.

Troicki absolutely bombing his serves in...this is going to be a very interesting Wimbledon, especially in week one!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:59 pm

And another dull commentator saying how Nadal (who is the same age as Trocki btw) is showing signs of age...

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:00 pm

Nadal is now wiping not only his body with the towel, but his racquet, too. ATP 250: Hertogenbosch, Stuttgart 2355573927

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:02 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Thanks for the updates, T.
I hope to catch up tomorrow.

How is Nadal playing, anything "new"?

And to answer my own question.
Nothing new.
Same old.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:07 pm

noleisthebest wrote:And another dull commentator saying how Nadal (who is the same age as Trocki btw) is showing signs of age...
Yep...absurd!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:17 pm

I am now convinced Nadal can't and will never be able to take the ball early.
Even halfway inside the court he had to moonball a CCFH (and have it returned for a smash) rather than take it at shoulder hight and put away routinely.

He is so tense and uncomfortable and Troicki is really letting him off the hook here.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:19 pm

Nadal is quite solid on grass too. Not many mistakes. .

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:21 pm

Th eadvantage of being a left hander is that the sun rarely is a problem at that time of the day.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:23 pm

Tenez wrote:Th eadvantage of being a left hander is that the sun rarely is a problem at that time of the day.
We have a guy in the club who is trying to play left-handed while his right elbow is recovering...

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:27 pm

Troicki..is a bit weak mentally. He won his serve much more easily during the whole set but when it came to TB...he collapsed!

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:28 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Th eadvantage of being a left hander is that the sun rarely is a problem at that time of the day.
We have a guy in the club who is trying to play left-handed while his right elbow is recovering...
Maybe he has 2 left hands!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:32 pm

Tenez wrote:Troicki..is a bit weak mentally.  He won his serve much more easily during the whole set but when it came to TB...he collapsed!

Yes, some are just happy to be in the final...with a different mindset, he could've won the thing.

I don't understand players who allow emotions to suffocate them like that even after all match playing experience, and Nadal has won so many times just because the opponent lacked belief.

I don't know whether to fell sorry for Troicki or think he's pathetic...

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:38 pm

Because Nadal doesn't collapse. He sends the balls back and keep asking questions. That's the beauty of safer shots.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:47 pm

Tenez wrote:Because Nadal doesn't collapse. He sends the balls back and keep asking questions. That's the beauty of safer shots.
Yes...but in this case, there is no reason for Troicki to let it affect his forst serve.psame must have happened to Tomic.
At least Trocki goes for his shots....Tomic has such soft hands and easy power, yet no spirit to drive that talent.

Nadal can't afford to collapse. That third set against Nole in RG was the closest I saw Nadal collapse and it was not a pretty sight.

A joke of a match now...

Viktor, at please try not to make Nadal look good!

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:49 pm

As I said it's the sun which is affecting Troicki serve. He made 2 DFs in the TB while serving against the sun.

and just lost his serve in the 2nd set against the sun again.

Those guys are less professionals that the top players.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:58 pm

David Mercer is often very reluctant to give Nadal too much credit.

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Post by AceofDeath Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:43 pm

In the 2nd set that I got to see it was obvious Nadal still has jitters and weaknesses. First grass title since 2010, the vamos brigade will show their faces again, No? Winking

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:46 pm

Have you? he was pretty solid, strong and excited.

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Post by AceofDeath Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:54 pm

He can't make more than the qtrs in Wimbledon with that type of game. If they are in the same draw half, I think Fed will finally take him again.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:29 pm

AceofDeath wrote:He can't make more than the qtrs in Wimbledon with that type of game. If they are in the same draw half, I think Fed will finally take him again.
I certainly would like to see that!

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:32 pm

Quuens and Halle shoudl be interesting. In particular Queens.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:06 pm

Tenez wrote:David Mercer is often very reluctant to give Nadal too much credit.
Mercer is a shameless Fed fanboy!

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:38 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:David Mercer is often very reluctant to give Nadal too much credit.
Mercer is a shameless Fed fanboy!
Like me! Cheers

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