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Post by luvsports! Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:05 am

GP, this was the first time feds lost to robredo.

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Post by gallery play Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:22 am

luvsports! wrote:GP, this was the first time feds lost to robredo.
Sure. But my point was that Fed needed a very easy win but taking all things into account  that wasn't very likely, despite their h2h!

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:06 pm

Fed's current game is very beatable. In fact his #7th ranking is also a bit high I think. He is playing someone who will be ranked say something like 18-25. Reaching QF on some odd occasions.

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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:06 pm

I think we have to keep things in perspective. Converting 2 BPs out of 16 was really his main problem yesterday. Just convertint one of those 16 in that first set may have changed the momuntum completely.

So to me, at least on yesterday's performance which the only one I saw in full since Wimbledon, his main problem is confidence more than his game. It;s this lack of confidence which made him play the wrong shot way too often, a but like his pre-2003 time.

The other and more important issue is the fact he was not moving well in that 3d set....probably the reason why his serve was not great the whole match.

But again with a slightly more success on BPs he coudl have won that one in 3 convincingly. Something we should not forget to draw a fair and full assessment. Confidence must be pretty low....and understandably so.

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Post by luvsports! Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:26 pm


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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:37 pm

I just read teh beginning of Lydian's post! What a clown!

I like the "I don't accept anyone as GOAT"! As if the world cared about what he thinks! Doh

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Post by N2D2L Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:53 pm

I care what Lydian thinks Hug

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Post by luvsports! Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:09 pm

My post got deleted? RIght...

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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:12 pm

where? on v2? I did not read it indeed. what were you saying?

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:14 pm

Julia Santamaria wrote:I care what Lydian thinks Hug
That says everything.....

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Post by luvsports! Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:15 pm

It was on here. I said something about classic lydian tenez feuds and that I thought Lydian did a good post but there were some things I didn't agree with.

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:16 pm

Tenez wrote:I just read teh beginning of Lydian's post! What a clown!

I like the "I don't accept anyone as GOAT"! As if the world cared about what he thinks! Doh
Oh, T, when will you learn!!!!

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Post by N2D2L Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:17 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Julia Santamaria wrote:I care what Lydian thinks Hug
That says everything.....
Hug

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Post by N2D2L Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:17 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:I just read teh beginning of Lydian's post! What a clown!

I like the "I don't accept anyone as GOAT"! As if the world cared about what he thinks! Doh
Oh, T, when will you learn!!!!
*from Lydian

Winking

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:19 pm

Lydian should join OTF and start learning from Tenez, just like you, Amri
But he is too vain to do it Winking 

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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:30 pm

Lydian has already learnt a lot from me. His only problem is Federer. He doesn;t like him and will do anything to belittle him.

It's so clear on all his posts...despite some effort to appear objective.

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Post by N2D2L Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:33 pm

Tenez wrote: He doesn;t like him and will do anything to belittle him.

Dis.Grace.Ful. Stuff

How dare he try to belittle players he doesn't like Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

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Post by N2D2L Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:34 pm

Lydian is a legendary poster, no doubt about it.

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:59 pm

Tenez wrote:Lydian has already learnt a lot from me. His only problem is Federer. He doesn;t like him and will do anything to belittle him.

It's so clear on all his posts...despite some effort to appear objective.
That's sad and bad.
I don't know how anyone can call him/herself a tennis fan and not be mad about the guy!

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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:11 pm

Julia Santamaria wrote:
Tenez wrote: He doesn;t like him and will do anything to belittle him.

Dis.Grace.Ful. Stuff

How dare he try to belittle players he doesn't like Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
No problem belittling someone you don't like but unfortunately when trying to do this when addressing the best player ever you are likely to lose some credibility cause teh arguments are going to be scarce. Sure you can always criticise his attitude, his arrogance, or else...but trying to diminish the success of a player whose amazing record is based on genius will show some strong biais from the poster.

When I belittle Nadal for instance, I don't say that he is physically crap and that his shots are feable. I say this is his main strength. Now try to have Lydian say that Federer's success is down to his talent and genius....and good luck.

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:42 pm

Since you have advertised v2 here Amri and LS, how about you advertise OTF over there, as well, it would be nice to see some old friends here again, I am pretty sure many of them don't now about us.

Just tell them Tenez and NITB (and rotla, GP and others) are having a lovely forum where there are a lot of interesting and challenging topics being discussed.

I am sure Julius would not mind and would not chop your heads off smiley

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Post by Tenez Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:50 pm

I would say no to having more posters but I have lost interest in talking about tennis. What some of us have been saying for years is now simply common knowledge. Time taking between, doping, strings, lighter racquest , playing better as one ages etc...are subjects down to death and clearly acknowledge by player and the tennis organisations.

Federer getting out of form we are left with a bit of commenting on some poor winning tennis such as those AO, FO, Wimbledon finals and I doubt the US one will be any better, the tennis is ugly but the drama might still be interesting. However we know the remaining players are not going to make it look easy.

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Post by luvsports! Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:10 am

Nitb says yes, tenez says no, which is it to be?

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Post by Tenez Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 am

I meant I would "not" say no......

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Post by luvsports! Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:51 am

ok then, i'll ask smiley

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Post by Tenez Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:56 am

not holding my breath! Winking

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