Rotterdam 2019

I can't help but smile when I remember this time last year.
What a difference a year makes!

This time last year Fed was going for his oldest number one moment and I went there to share it.
It was glorious and so inspirational....like a strong wind that took me to a new world. I carped the New Diem!!!!

This year there is no Fed.
And I won't be going there.


But Tsitsipas, the New Tall Rose will.

Life is beautiful!

Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

Tsits is a born winner, plus a lion just like Fed.
He is too good not to be hopeful about.

Watching Shapo-Stan.
Basically same players, simple, explosive games, firing on all cylinders, dtl etc etc...yet somehow it's not that entertaining to watch. No guile, no finesse....
Still glad to see them both blasting their BHs (and FHs) and that Shapo's had a haircut and looks more like a man now.

I can't believe I was there drinking champers last year!!!

Shapo is not much of a warrior...could learn a thing or two from Ferrer.

great comeback from Shapo for 5:5 (was 2 breaks down)
He needs a Paganini or Gigi to work on his footspeed and... volleys, they are not sharp enough.
Though he just struck a fantastic reflex volley.

and nooooo!!!!just saw that HIS COACH has got that stupid white soft toy out there...I'm outta here...

I'm not watching but this nevrotic superstitious habit is ridiculous. It's a very weak achile heel from Shapo.

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

Tsits is a born winner, plus a lion just like Fed.
He is too good not to be hopeful about.

Born winner, lion..    . I don't know how you spot such qualities in him.

Shall I bring back the David Goffin thread? 

I believe I've seen enough tennis to understand who can become what. For now, he has a long way to cover.

noleisthebest wrote:Shapo is not much of a warrior...could learn a thing or two from Ferrer.

I'll second that. He gives up a lot quicker than he should be. At his age, he has nothing to lose. SO hyw not play like one.

Same league as Zverev despit his impressive resume. Give him a tough situation and he will fold like a piece of rag.

Just started watching Stan-Nishi.

Nice to see Nishi serve and volley, couldn't believe my eyes!
Stan did pass him, so shame Nishi stopped doing it.

Still, first class hitting from the baseline from both.

Should be a great final vs Monf tomorrow whoever wins tonight.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

Tsits is a born winner, plus a lion just like Fed.
He is too good not to be hopeful about.

Born winner, lion..    . I don't know how you spot such qualities in him.

Shall I bring back the David Goffin thread? 

I believe I've seen enough tennis to understand who can become what. For now, he has a long way to cover.

I don't know how you don't!

Actually Nishi is useless at the net.
He's got the hands, just doesn't know how to position himself or when to get there.
Strange...but he should persevere, as he is light-footed.
Camping on the baseline clearly didn't bring him as much joy as he hoped for.

That was a vintage Stanimal!

Simply outgunned timid Nishi who only seems to be able to play in short stretches.

Stan has become a great player.

Saw the final, Good match. Stan needs more composure. He was in a winning position the way 2nd set ended and the 3rd started.

Maybe he was already okay with the result which was more that he thought he would get before the start of the tournament.

Good comeback win for Monfils. He is my most liked grinder.

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

Tsits is a born winner, plus a lion just like Fed.
He is too good not to be hopeful about.

Born winner, lion..    . I don't know how you spot such qualities in him.

Shall I bring back the David Goffin thread? 

I believe I've seen enough tennis to understand who can become what. For now, he has a long way to cover.

I don't know how you don't!

He is playing this week in Marseille. You certain he will win this?

Lion... lmao.  What utter nonsense.  They are tennis players, not marines. 

At least some of them have time on their side to show they're winners.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Don't be too hopeful...Tsitsi gone in the opening round...

Tsits is a born winner, plus a lion just like Fed.
He is too good not to be hopeful about.

Born winner, lion..    . I don't know how you spot such qualities in him.
Shall I bring back the David Goffin thread? I believe I've seen enough tennis to understand who can become what. For now, he has a long way to cover.

I don't know how you don't!

He is playing this week in Marseille. You certain he will win this?

Tsits is 5 years younger than Thiem.
And last week Thiem lost to Schartzman who then lost to Checinatto. On clay.
Just sayin’.....

Tsits is going to win more slams than Thiem.
Not sure what you mean by Goffin thread?

Whether Tsitsipas is going to win more slams than Thiem is a question for the distant future. First let's see if he wins the ATP 250 where he is the top seed. You doged the question clearly shows how confident you are about his chances.

Goffin thread, illl bring it. Read it again you'll know.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Whether Tsitsipas is going to win more slams than Thiem is a question for the distant future. First let's see if he wins the ATP 250 where he is the top seed. You doged the question clearly shows how confident you are about his chances.

Goffin thread, illl bring it. Read it again you'll know.

Which question?
As for Rotterdam, (which is a 500 event btw), maybe he was injured.

This question. 

He is playing this week in Marseille. You certain he will win this?

How about answering it. He plays his match tomorrow. Can he even reach the final? 

As for Rotterdam, (which is a 500 event btw), maybe he was injured.

Injured?? Yeah the cheap injury excuse is readily available. But I'm certain you didnt watch the match. I did.

 Remember during AO, a little nasty side of him using gamesmanship was being discussed? That time I didn't pay much attention to it as he is still young and benefit of doubt shall be given unless its repeated offence. But during that Rotterdam match, he clearly faked an injury in the middle of the game, got the trainer out ( the game wasn't done ). 

Dzumhur was thrown out of focus and loses the game and couldn't get to focus in 2nd set at all.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:This question. 
He is playing this week in Marseille. You certain he will win this? How about answering it. He plays his match tomorrow. Can he even reach the final? 

Sorry rotla, but I don’t follow your logic. What has winning Marseille got to do anything with what I said about Tsits?

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

As for Rotterdam, (which is a 500 event btw), maybe he was injured.

Injured?? Yeah the cheap injury excuse is readily available. But I'm certain you didnt watch the match. I did.
 Remember during AO, a little nasty side of him using gamesmanship was being discussed? That time I didn't pay much attention to it as he is still young and benefit of doubt shall be given unless its repeated offence. But during that Rotterdam match, he clearly faked an injury in the middle of the game, got the trainer out ( the game wasn't done ). 
Dzumhur was thrown out of focus and loses the game and couldn't get to focus in 2nd set at all.

There you go, the guy was injured which proved my point. Glad you saw the match to mention it here.

Shame you read evil into his MTO, though... “clearly faked an injury” is quite a strong statement and I am not sure you understand (and you are not the only one) that an injury doesn’t mean a player needs to be taken out on stretchers to be considered “legit”. It can be as “little” as a pulled nerve in the middle back that is stopping a player from performing at his full potential.

As far as I am concerned, Tsits is a great talent and I enjoy watching him a lot. I don’t think he uses gamesmanship.

Sorry rotla, but I don’t follow your logic. What has winning Marseille got to do anything with what I said about Tsits?

There is certainly no 'logic', by the general definition of the word, in calling him a lion and a born winner. I brought out the point of him winning Marseille because currently, he isn't even certain to win ATP250 or beat even the unseeded. 

If he is struggling to beat smaller opponents, there is no way he is any better than others who are just buying their time, coz eventually, their time will come. I am not finding this wait-for-your-time very exciting about any player. I like players who can create their own space. Fed Nadal, Djokovic, Stan, even Murray have done it. 

The kind of beating Nadal gave him at AO, I'm not certain he is going to recover any soon in their next meeting. He was totally clueless about what is Nadal going to do.

There you go, the guy was injured which proved my point. Glad you saw the match to mention it here.

hahaha... you didn't even see anything and claiming proof of your point. Funny.

Shame you read evil into his MTO, though... “clearly faked an injury” is quite a strong statement and I am not sure you understand (and you are not the only one) that an injury doesn’t mean a player needs to be taken out on stretchers to be considered “legit”.

No madam, kindly keep this high voltage emotionally charged shame for a later day. You didn't even see anything and is trying to build up a case. I saw and there was nothing sort of sudden movement which could have caused any injury. It showed many times on replays, slo-mos. The commentators were talking of not spotting anything which could result in such a sudden stoppage of play. Dzumhur was complaining to the umpire why the trainer was allowed without the game being completed.


And then he didn't even take any MTO. he just called the trainer to break the momentum. And then suddenly he was all running like a hare on the court. 

All this while commentators talking about how seeing a trainer on court disrupts the opponent.

No sign even in the 3rd set. It was an attempt to break Dzumhur's momentum which worked too.

This is the David Goffin thread. Read it.

https://ourtennisforum.forumotion.co.uk/t1452-david-goffin?highlight=david+goffin

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:This is the David Goffin thread. Read it.

https://ourtennisforum.forumotion.co.uk/t1452-david-goffin?highlight=david+goffin

What's the point of reading this thread if Goff is injured? Those things are unpredictable.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:This is the David Goffin thread. Read it.

https://ourtennisforum.forumotion.co.uk/t1452-david-goffin?highlight=david+goffin

What is your point with this thread?

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

Sorry rotla, but I don’t follow your logic. What has winning Marseille got to do anything with what I said about Tsits?

There is certainly no 'logic', by the general definition of the word, in calling him a lion and a born winner. I brought out the point of him winning Marseille because currently, he isn't even certain to win ATP250 or beat even the unseeded. 

If he is struggling to beat smaller opponents, there is no way he is any better than others who are just buying their time, coz eventually, their time will come. I am not finding this wait-for-your-time very exciting about any player. I like players who can create their own space. Fed Nadal, Djokovic, Stan, even Murray have done it. 

rotla, it's just not your lucky week for tennis comments :

noleisthebest wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

Sorry rotla, but I don’t follow your logic. What has winning Marseille got to do anything with what I said about Tsits?

There is certainly no 'logic', by the general definition of the word, in calling him a lion and a born winner. I brought out the point of him winning Marseille because currently, he isn't even certain to win ATP250 or beat even the unseeded. 

If he is struggling to beat smaller opponents, there is no way he is any better than others who are just buying their time, coz eventually, their time will come. I am not finding this wait-for-your-time very exciting about any player. I like players who can create their own space. Fed Nadal, Djokovic, Stan, even Murray have done it. 

rotla, it's just not your lucky week for tennis comments :

And it gets from bad to “worse” as Tsitsipas wins in Marseille!  

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/47348829



P.S.

GO LASLOOOOO (Djere)

And it gets from bad to “worse” as Tsitsipas wins in Marseille!    

No silly, it didn't. 

If Tsitsipas is going to be great player he needs to be winning all(almost) smaller tournaments where he gets chances to move up the rankings and build confidence. Even if he loses, he should take a top guy to beat him.