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Post by PointConstructor085 Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:15 pm

Garbiñe MUGURUZA [3] vs Samantha STOSUR [33]
Maria SHARAPOVA [28] vs Karolina PLISKOVA [6]
Rafael NADAL [1] vs Richard GASQUET [27]
Albert RAMOS-VINOLAS [31] vs Juan Martin DEL POTRO [5]
Fabio FOGNINI [18] vs Kyle EDMUND [16]
Julia GOERGES [11] vs Serena WILLIAMS [33]
John ISNER [9] vs Pierre-Hugues HERBERT [33]
Diego SCHWARTZMAN [11] vs Borna CORIC [33]

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Post by PointConstructor085 Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:17 pm

STOSUR, Sharapova, Gasquet, Ramos, Fognini, Serena, Herbert, SCHWARTZMAN

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:42 pm

Stosur, Sharapova, Gasquet, Delpo, Fognini, Williams, Isner, Schwartzy

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:45 pm

I had some faint hope from Pella, even Bolleli, but Gasquet.....it’s ZERO chance.

He’s got such a loser mentality...

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Post by Tenez Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:18 pm

Garbiñe MUGURUZA [3]
Karolina PLISKOVA [6]
Richard GASQUET [27]you never know! Cool Laugh
Juan Martin DEL POTRO [5]
Fabio FOGNINI [18]
Julia GOERGES [11]
Pierre-Hugues HERBERT [33]
Borna CORIC [33]

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:00 pm

Lets share the workload of points calculation, its a heavy work for 1 person.

I'll do for days 1-2 and post it by tomorrow evening IST.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:02 pm

Garbiñe MUGURUZA [3]
Karolina PLISKOVA [6]
Rafael NADAL [1] 
Juan Martin DEL POTRO [5]
Fabio FOGNINI [18]
Julia GOERGES [11] 
John ISNER [9] 
Borna CORIC [33]

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Post by naxroy Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:16 am

Samantha STOSUR [33]
Maria SHARAPOVA [28]
Richard GASQUET [27]
Albert RAMOS-VINOLAS [31]
Kyle EDMUND [16]
Serena WILLIAMS [33]
John ISNER [9]
Borna CORIC [33]

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Post by summerblues Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:18 am

Good luck, Richard!

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Post by PointConstructor085 Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:54 am

Mikey: Mugu, Shara, Rafa, Delpot, fognini, Booty, Isner, Coric

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Post by PointConstructor085 Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:54 am

Luvsports: Stosur, sharapova, gasq, ramos, fog, serena, Herbert, coric

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:05 am

Forza Fabioooooo! diva jester

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:16 am

noleisthebest wrote:Forza Fabioooooo! diva jester
as soon as I typed this Fognini loses his service game with a couple of DFs....like he's tanking....I am really going to start believing in stupid jinxing Grr Grr Grr

I even wanted to say wouldn't it be wonderful if he somehow by some miracle won this RG....

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:23 am

Amazing (but I can really understand) how Fognini can just turn off from his zone and appear totally not interested.

It's as if the sight of dull expressionless Edmund is boring his funky thunder pants off him!

He is so "off" atm that even the squeaky little foot-fault call (shown on replay to be incorrect) didn't raise his eyebrow...what a guy.... Laugh

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am

And suddenly just as inexplicably as he "disapeared" he is back!
And so is the sunshine, love it!!!!! love love love

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:35 am

Edmund is here to win this match. There is no other thought in his head.

Fabio.....I can just imagine what goes through his head...Laugh

I bet he notices smiles and frowns on clay particles...at times...

Now he walks to the line Edmund's  FH landed a great winner...he can't believe it but nods in approval...the genius in him is ok with it!

And suddenly, after being 1:5 it's 4:5 and Fabio is back on serve.

Changeover....Fabio with towel over his head, having a "quiet" time with himself....
Edmund stretched on the ground receiving MTO/massage...opponent's momentum breaking attempt?

FAbio doesn't care, he is already at the service line, bouncing the ball! Laugh

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:04 pm

tight match it seems.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:07 pm

It's not tight...Fabio's so much better, just fails to be "patient"...that's his Achilles' heel.

Now he is having an MTO and it literally is his heel! Laugh


COME ON FABIOOOO, YOU CAN DOOO IT!!!!! tennisball

btw, shame the crowd is so dead!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:09 pm

I find it hard to support Fabbio. Too erratic. Only when he is close to beat Nadal that I get excited.....but this is rare.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:12 pm

I love Fabio...and really appreciate his artistic flair and fire he brings to matches.
He's literally saved this clay season for me with his Rome performances alone!

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Post by summerblues Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:28 pm

Scoreboard watching day for me.

Schwartzman vs Coric could be an important match - the winner could well end up playing Delpo or Cilic in the SF, with a decent chance to make the final.

Fognini Edmund a difficult call for me.  Fognini is very entertaining when he is on, but he is on rather sparingly.  Edmund has improved a lot this year, he could be more dangerous of the two to the higher seeds.

And good luck Richard!  This could be his belated coming of age.  The day when the boy becomes a man.

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Post by summerblues Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:30 pm

I have never seen this Marterer guy.  Is he any good?  He has advanced quite smoothly.  Does he have any chance in the next round (vs either Rafa or Richard)?

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:50 pm

BRAVO FABIOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Applause Bubbly Magic


I exiled myself to the garden rather than behind the sofa...as every time I  watched he began to lose....


I so hope I see him on Lenglen on Monday!!! love

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:51 pm

summerblues wrote:Scoreboard watching day for me.

Schwartzman vs Coric could be an important match - the winner could well end up playing Delpo or Cilic in the SF, with a decent chance to make the final.

Fognini Edmund a difficult call for me.  Fognini is very entertaining when he is on, but he is on rather sparingly.  Edmund has improved a lot this year, he could be more dangerous of the two to the higher seeds.

And good luck Richard!  This could be his belated coming of age.  The day when the boy becomes a man.
Laugh

Poor Richie Hug

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Post by summerblues Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:03 pm

Not a good start.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:56 pm

I tuned in for the sake of it...it's baaaaad and saaaaad.
Nadal is almost feeling pity for Gasquet...

Looks like there is much more fun with Goffin & Monfils switching to that!
Monfils was a break up in the 4th but Goffin is back.

Monfils has come out of nowhere in this tournament!

Crowd are at their finest Big Grin
Just what Le Monf needs!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:10 pm

Gasquet is depressing. But to be fair Nadal is injecting enough spin to jam any other player.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:14 pm

Great play from Goffin to save two MPs!

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:29 pm

Monfils gets time warning after a long point and then has the cheek to moan to the umpire...of course only to get the crowd revved up...allez Le Goff!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:31 pm

NADAL and THE CRITICAL PACE.

Against Nadal it is important to have enough pace to prevent him to inject his spin. If the conds are not fast enough, the player needs to compensate by hitting harder...otherwise he has enough time to inject his spin and pace.

Someone like Isner has more chance than Gasquet. Even Bolelli ha enough pace.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:36 pm

Goffin levels the match to 2:2.
He is playing so well.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:38 pm

Tenez wrote:NADAL and THE CRITICAL PACE.

Against Nadal it is important to have enough pace to prevent him to inject his spin. If the conds are not fast enough, the player needs to compensate by hitting harder...otherwise he has enough time to inject his spin and pace.

Someone like Isner has more chance than Gasquet. Even Bolelli ha enough pace.

this Morterer has plenty of pace and plays percentage, he is German so shouldn't choke....maybe HE can do it!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:39 pm

Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:39 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Goffin levels the match to 2:2.
He is playing so well.

Good! Monfils gets on my nerve...and so does Goffin BTW to find himself MPs down to him!

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:42 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Goffin levels the match to 2:2.
He is playing so well.

Good! Monfils gets on my nerve...and so does Goffin BTW to find himself MPs down to him!

Is there anyone who doesn't get on your nerves? Laugh

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:03 pm

ATM, not many!

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Post by naxroy Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:16 pm

will they change matches from lenglen to chatrier?

its either that or isner wiill not play today

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:15 pm

Good to see Delpo on form.

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Post by naxroy Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:43 pm

yes, delpo is my main worry for nadal

I cant see an upset in 4th round or even in quarters, but that semi looks like the moment to see what you so much desire

of course little schwartzman is a fighter but I doubt he can do it... and in semis Fognini would be a test too... but he is too irregular for such an achievement.

yes delpo has it all to do it, but it has to be in a perfect day... and probably mixed with a not good day from nadal

also, even if nadal goes through, it should be important how much time he spends in that semi if djokovic, zverev or thiem are waiting in the final

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Post by Tenez Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:05 pm

naxroy wrote:yes delpo has it all to do it, but it has to be in a perfect day... and probably mixed with a not good day from nadal

I don;t know. You tend to think it;s in Nadal's racquet...but to me a game is almost always in the attacker's racquet.

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Post by naxroy Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:14 pm

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naxroy wrote:yes delpo has it all to do it, but it has to be in a perfect day... and probably mixed with a not good day from nadal

I don;t know. You tend to think it;s in Nadal's racquet...but to me a game is almost always in the attacker's racquet.


on clay, its always in nadal´s raquet

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:41 am

naxroy wrote:
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naxroy wrote:yes delpo has it all to do it, but it has to be in a perfect day... and probably mixed with a not good day from nadal

I don;t know. You tend to think it;s in Nadal's racquet...but to me a game is almost always in the attacker's racquet.


on clay, its always in nadal´s raquet
Nope...a few players showed that they could be that boring consistency. Rarely for some I agree but more frequently for others. You know that if Djoko were to find his form, Nadal would not win that FO. Luckily for Nadal Djoko is not there yet.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:48 am

Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:52 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.

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Post by naxroy Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:54 pm

Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.


this is getting ridiculous now

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:11 pm

Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.
And with Nadal playng with a SBH! Winking

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:20 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.
And with Nadal playng with a SBH! Winking

And Gasquet playing left handed.. I'm up for this.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:26 am

Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.

This is so so wrong Tenez. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, every single one. And it showed the last match too where he was beaten in all aspects, winners, volleys, Serve %, everything..

If physicality was the only thing that wins Nadal against Gasquet, then Gasquet should be doing good against other non-physical players. But that too is not the case.

Gasquet would be nothing better on grass than clay against Nadal. He doesn't have the skills of grass tennis. Hios best surface is clay. Doesn't take the ball early and that's why stands way behind the BL just like Nadal.

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:58 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet doesn't hit flat enough.
 Whether he his flat or not. It doesn't matter. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, irrespective of playing surface.

If they play on fast courts, the scoreline will be somewhat better for Gasquet, but he would still lose in st. sets.

Wrong. Nadal is only ahead of Gasquet on the physical side...but that is enough for Nadal to beat him on every surface...and I would like to see a Gasquet v Nadal on fresh grass.
And with Nadal playng with a SBH! Winking

And Gasquet playing left handed.. I'm up for this.
But Nadal isn’t left-handed.

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Post by Tenez Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:49 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:This is so so wrong Tenez. Gasquet is behind Nadal in every aspect of the game, every single one. And it showed the last match too where he was beaten in all aspects, winners, volleys, Serve %, everything...
That's because you do not understand the dynamics of tennis. One may have a great game, if not fit enough, there is nothing one can do. Look at the FO 08 final. Cause federer was not tip top form that year and tired because of a 5 setter semi v Monfils, Federer is completely crushed versus Nadal....even if Federer had many more skills than Nadal. One might be skilled with most players, but when it comes to handling a zippy ball (huge energy injected into the ball), then all the guile is useless. So Nadal's fitness is two folds: Power he puts into the ball and teh forcing of running if one doesn't have that "critical pace" I have been mentioning.

It's really weird you guys don;t see that. Why was Nadal useless on other slams before they slowed everything down?

If physicality was the only thing that wins Nadal against Gasquet, then Gasquet should be doing good against other non-physical players. But that too is not the case.
Because fitness is everything nowadays. remember when young Gasquet was the number 1 junior....not Nadal.

Gasquet would be nothing better on grass than clay against Nadal. He doesn't have the skills of grass tennis. Hios best surface is clay. Doesn't take the ball early and that's why stands way behind the BL just like Nadal.
More non sense I am afraid. There is a considerable long list of average players who have lessoned Nadal on grass, espically first week when grass is/was decently fast, players that Gasquet would typically beat on grass.

Bizarre you can't see it's all about pace v Nadal. Look how confident and good he looks now that he plays on slow courts!

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