ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:10 pm
Murray through playing Stepanek tomorrow.
Fed next against .....oh no....Stan
Fed next against .....oh no....Stan
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:50 pm
Stan is a tough cookie. I'd woudl not take him easily. I know Federer will not.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:55 pm
I know he is.Tenez wrote:Stan is a tough cookie. I'd woudl not take him easily. I know Federer will not.
Fed did look a tiny bit rusty yesterday so....
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:56 pm
Got a lot Sky+ watching tonight.
Ten have you seen that Federer documentary on Sky?
Ten have you seen that Federer documentary on Sky?
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:00 pm
No I have not. Is that a more recent one? I saw an old one of 3 or 4 years ago.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:05 pm
It is. I checked YouTube. Someone put the Rafa one up and not the Fed one. Whats wrong with people!!
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:06 pm
I have just discovered something wonderful!!! Verdsasco has stopped that ridiculous groaning, good on him 
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:23 pm
Federer looking extremely hungry against Stan.
I really want to see him play Murray on Saturday and Nole on Sunday.
I really want to see him play Murray on Saturday and Nole on Sunday.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:33 pm
Great fight from Stan to break Fed.
Not flinching in that base-line forehand exchange, very good!
Not flinching in that base-line forehand exchange, very good!
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:49 pm
Fed may be hungry but he is not moving really well. His first serve is so far off target at times...it's weird.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:58 pm
Well, things are certainly getting better for Fed.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by laverfan Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:00 pm
Is Wawrinka doping, he is certainly serving and hitting very hard, isn't he? He is also up a set. 
Come on Stan you can do it.
PS: Yes, good break back.
Come on Stan you can do it.
PS: Yes, good break back.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:03 pm
I talked too fast.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:05 pm
LF Everyone is doping!!
It was a fair discussion I think which was on another thread which opened up to the possibility of doping in tennis in light of the LA report. Maybe not on the grand scale of program LA found himself running, but the tactics he used to remain un-detected could be used in other sports including tennis.
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by laverfan Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:09 pm
Tenez wrote:I talked too fast.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:10 pm
legendkillar wrote:It is. I checked YouTube. Someone put the Rafa one up and not the Fed one. Whats wrong with people!!
Nothing wrong with being either a Federer or Nadal fan LK
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:11 pm
Amritia3ee wrote:legendkillar wrote:It is. I checked YouTube. Someone put the Rafa one up and not the Fed one. Whats wrong with people!!
Nothing wrong with being either a Federer or Nadal fan LK
I meant in terms of why anyone hadn't uploaded the Federer one
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm
Very entertaining match. No mucking about, the real deal 
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by laverfan Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm
legendkillar wrote:
Everyone is doping!!
It was a fair discussion I think which was on another thread which opened up to the possibility of doping in tennis in light of the LA report. Maybe not on the grand scale of program LA found himself running, but the tactics he used to remain un-detected could be used in other sports including tennis.
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Anyone who beats Federer must be doping, correct, LK? It is just pure legs and lungs.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:13 pm
legendkillar wrote:
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Relax LK, this is OTF, not v2, you are allowed to think!
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:14 pm
laverfan wrote:legendkillar wrote:
Everyone is doping!!
It was a fair discussion I think which was on another thread which opened up to the possibility of doping in tennis in light of the LA report. Maybe not on the grand scale of program LA found himself running, but the tactics he used to remain un-detected could be used in other sports including tennis.
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Anyone who beats Federer must be doping, correct, LK? It is just pure legs and lungs.
I once beat Federer using a lung for a racquet
I then woke up.......
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:14 pm
laverfan wrote:legendkillar wrote:
Everyone is doping!!
It was a fair discussion I think which was on another thread which opened up to the possibility of doping in tennis in light of the LA report. Maybe not on the grand scale of program LA found himself running, but the tactics he used to remain un-detected could be used in other sports including tennis.
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Anyone who beats Federer must be doping, correct, LK? It is just pure legs and lungs.
LF,
can you take your rubbish back to v2 please. Stop carrying on like a spoilt brat.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:15 pm
Stan in the zone and rally enjoying himself on the court, lovely to see.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:17 pm
noleisthebest wrote:laverfan wrote:legendkillar wrote:
Everyone is doping!!
It was a fair discussion I think which was on another thread which opened up to the possibility of doping in tennis in light of the LA report. Maybe not on the grand scale of program LA found himself running, but the tactics he used to remain un-detected could be used in other sports including tennis.
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Anyone who beats Federer must be doping, correct, LK? It is just pure legs and lungs.
LF,
can you take your rubbish back to v2 please. Stop carrying on like a spoilt brat.
The irony
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:18 pm
noleisthebest wrote:legendkillar wrote:
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Relax LK, this is OTF, not v2, you are allowed to think!
So I'm allowed to disagree with what you say?
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:18 pm
legendkillar wrote:Amritia3ee wrote:legendkillar wrote:It is. I checked YouTube. Someone put the Rafa one up and not the Fed one. Whats wrong with people!!
Nothing wrong with being either a Federer or Nadal fan LK
I meant in terms of why anyone hadn't uploaded the Federer one
Maybe Nadal is more popular with youtube users.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:19 pm
I have rarely seen the game played at such a pace. It reminds me the 2007 matches between Blake and Federer at the USO.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:19 pm
Amritia3ee wrote:noleisthebest wrote:legendkillar wrote:
I like to think tennis is clean, but I would suspect if there was purpose and signs players were
Relax LK, this is OTF, not v2, you are allowed to think!
So I'm allowed to disagree with what you say?
You are not interested in tennis, just Nadal worship. Otherwise, you'd be watching this fantastic match now and commenting on it not eating sour grapes and going on and on about the same thing (on the wrong thread)
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:22 pm
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fed not aggressive enough with his forehand...
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 pm
Bhs are hit harder than other players FHs. A very good match played at a very fast pace.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:26 pm
noleisthebest wrote:
You are not interested in tennis, just Nadal worship.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
I wasn't sure if I was interested in tennis, but you've enlightened me, oh self proclaimed majesty.
noleisthebest wrote:Otherwise, you'd be watching this fantastic match now and commenting on it not eating sour grapes and going on and on about the same thing (on the wrong thread)
Doping?
That was LF, LK and Tenez, not me. Anyway aren't we 'allowed to think' on here.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:28 pm
Federer will win this match, bet on it.
They're entertaining the crowd for now, but soon Roger will stamp his authority on this.
They're entertaining the crowd for now, but soon Roger will stamp his authority on this.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:28 pm
For having played with Wilson and now with Yonex I can certify that SHBH are considerably easier with Yonex.
Fed should make the change!
Fed should make the change!
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Larry Ellison Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:29 pm
Tenez wrote:For having played with Wilson and now with Yonex I can certify that SHBH are considerably easier with Yonex.
Fed should make the change!
Changing racket at this stage of his career would be a gutsy move.
I would just stick with that he has.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:33 pm
Tenez wrote:For having played with Wilson and now with Yonex I can certify that SHBH are considerably easier with Yonex.
Fed should make the change!
I agree, he's looking light-weight at the moment. Slower courts are taking away almost any advantage he is able to create with his usual fast pace.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:33 pm
Can anyone think of a match played at a faster pace?
I will check on youtube when it's out, how many seconds per rally on average. I think it beats anything I have recorded before.
I will check on youtube when it's out, how many seconds per rally on average. I think it beats anything I have recorded before.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:38 pm
Amritia3ee wrote:
Doping?
That was LF, LK and Tenez, not me. Anyway aren't we 'allowed to think' on here.
Feel free to think on the appropriate thread, Veejay's got some stuff waiting there for you.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:43 pm
noleisthebest wrote:Tenez wrote:For having played with Wilson and now with Yonex I can certify that SHBH are considerably easier with Yonex.
Fed should make the change!
I agree, he's looking light-weight at the moment. Slower courts are taking away almost any advantage he is able to create with his usual fast pace.
Yes, except that on this occasion, it's Stan hitting faster.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:48 pm
Llayani's loving it all: crowd, atmosphere, tennis , good spirit between players, occassion 
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:49 pm
There is so little difference between Stan and Fed. Yet one has 16 slams, the other has yet to reach the final of one.
Is Stan playing better v Fed than against anybody else? It looks like so. You see him lose to much lesser players regularly but against Fed he is often giving him a hard time.
Is Stan playing better v Fed than against anybody else? It looks like so. You see him lose to much lesser players regularly but against Fed he is often giving him a hard time.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:55 pm
Tenez wrote:There is so little difference between Stan and Fed. Yet one has 16 slams, the other has yet to reach the final of one.
Is Stan playing better v Fed than against anybody else? It looks like so. You see him lose to much lesser players regularly but against Fed he is often giving him a hard time.
This is the best I've seen Stan play. I don't think he'd lose to lesser players if he played like now. There is a clear difference in tonight's match, I am impressed he's going for it despite the 13 losses he's racked up against Fed.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:03 pm
From Super Stan back to just ....Stan. In a tie-break.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by legendkillar Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:05 pm
Something cripsy coming up.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:08 pm
Tenez wrote:There is so little difference between Stan and Fed. Yet one has 16 slams, the other has yet to reach the final of one.
I think this third set explains why
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:37 pm
Order of play out for tomorrow:
Starting at 7AM UK time:
Tsonga-Berdych
Murray-Stepanek
Djokovic-Tipsarevic/Haas
Federer-Cilic
Starting at 7AM UK time:
Tsonga-Berdych
Murray-Stepanek
Djokovic-Tipsarevic/Haas
Federer-Cilic
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by laverfan Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:40 pm
noleisthebest wrote:
can you take your rubbish back to v2 please. Stop carrying on like a spoilt brat.
Why not ban me, NITB? I do not fit this forum's agenda, correct?
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by laverfan Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:49 pm
Haas doing well. 
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by Tenez Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:09 pm
You are free to use this site to express your Mrs Hide side....though frankly while reading you elsewhere in the past, I thought you only had a Hide side anyway.laverfan wrote:noleisthebest wrote:
can you take your rubbish back to v2 please. Stop carrying on like a spoilt brat.
Why not ban me, NITB? I do not fit this forum's agenda, correct?
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by noleisthebest Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:26 pm
laverfan wrote:noleisthebest wrote:
can you take your rubbish back to v2 please. Stop carrying on like a spoilt brat.
Why not ban me, NITB? I do not fit this forum's agenda, correct?
Because you are capable of controlling yourself. A lot of times.
Can't you just be happy that this forum is taking its baby steps after the forum you are a moderator in kicked us out?
BTW, I don't have banning powers, but I wouldn't ban you even if I did.
Wow banned himself with his idiotic ways.
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Re: ATP Matches of the day: Shanghai 2012: (Wednesday) Day 4
by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:50 pm
Ah.. I have been missing not only watching Shangahi, but also OTF. Too much work load, and I couldn't carry on the MOTD or the prediction game. 
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