USO: 2016

Not very excited about it.

I don't know which website is worse now: the official USO or the ATP one.
It has become virtually impossible to follow  tournaments.

The Draw link is dead.

On top of that, Murray will almost certainly be in the final and I have already skipped watching Wimbledon because of its "stellar" line-up.

Raonic is pathetic in every way.

I hope Nole drags himself out his pit and restores the "order".

Delpo got a  WC, which is good.

Federer not playing, and I am not sure he ever will again.

Nadal is just raking as much cash as he can while sponsors are willing to give it to him.
Majority of his fans don't watch him for his tennis anyway...so long as he gives them a good old, humble, sweaty warrior show!

The "new" generation....waiting for the parents to die and get the inheritance...

Tennis a 2 horse race? I know the Agassi/Sampras rivalry attracts criticism, but at least they were polar opposites!

I still can't make my mind up on the exact form of Djokovic. We said wait after Wimbledon and he wins Toronto. Olympics bails out early. Up and down up and down.

I reckon we could see a new winner. Even if you take Djokovic out of the picture, Murray would still be vulnerable to a streaky player.

Enter Stanman!

You'd need someone very fit, it's the best of 5.

I think Nole will regoup.

Or someone with the inane ability to get under Murray's skin, by making their shots and throwing him off rhythm.

Be interesting to see how the draw pans out and which side attracts the dangerous floaters!

Thought this would generate some life on here

Here are Nadal's comments on Nishikori after the Bronze Medal match:

Nadal: "it was not good what did Nishikori at the level of competitive spirit but what upset me is to not act".

that was translation from a Spanish tweet btw.

http://www.tsmplug.com/tennis/rafael-nadal-furious-at-itf-officials-after-losing-bronze-medal-match-at-rio-2016/

More here.

What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

The Special One wrote:What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

Well, the only one that got sucked up so far is you!

I was wondering what Nishi did to draw such an unusual response from Nadal. Quite funny!

legendkillar wrote:Or someone with the inane ability to get under Murray's skin, by making their shots and throwing him off rhythm.

Be interesting to see how the draw pans out and which side attracts the dangerous floaters!

Funny you mention rhythm, I think Murray is a rare baseliner who does not depend on his rhythm, quote the opposite I think.

One of the few who loves playing in strong wind...

The Special One wrote:What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

Read the opening sentence to the first post

People's inability to read a post and demonstrate stupidity knows no bounds no matter which forums I visit 

legendkillar wrote:Thought this would generate some life on here

Here are Nadal's comments on Nishikori after the Bronze Medal match:

Nadal: "it was not good what did Nishikori at the level of competitive spirit but what upset me is to not act".

that was translation from a Spanish tweet btw.

What wrong did Nishi?...beisdes beating Nadal?

legendkillar wrote:http://www.tsmplug.com/tennis/rafael-nadal-furious-at-itf-officials-after-losing-bronze-medal-match-at-rio-2016/

More here.

Oh I see! Nadal got a bit of his own medicine!

Well done Nishi! How many times did Nadal did that to his opponents? Federer in particular!

legendkillar wrote:

The Special One wrote:What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

Read the opening sentence to the first post

People's inability to read a post and demonstrate stupidity knows no bounds no matter which forums I visit 

I've read the opening sentence of the first post, but that doesn't make your post relevant to USO 2016.
Any excuse to suck up!

Also let's be careful before we start accusing people of 'demonstrating stupidity'.

Tenez very principled!!

Unless it's a player not named Nadal doing the 'bad' thing.

Then principles go out of the window. Oops!

The Special One wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

The Special One wrote:What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

Read the opening sentence to the first post

People's inability to read a post and demonstrate stupidity knows no bounds no matter which forums I visit 

I've read the opening sentence of the first post, but that doesn't make your post relevant to USO 2016.
Any excuse to suck up!

Also let's be careful before we start accusing people of 'demonstrating stupidity'.

Right. Sucking up to posters I've debated with over the years. Coming from someone asking for suggestions for a new name

Grow up child!

I stuck it here to get posters posting. That simple.

I think you need to be careful not to keep on 'demonstrating'

The Special One wrote:Tenez very principled!!

Unless it's a player not named Nadal doing the 'bad' thing.

Then principles go out of the window. Oops!

Nadal is the "special one" who broke the rule after every single point of hos career. That is why he gets this special treatment here.

Nadal's idea of being a gentleman on the court is to let the opponent go first in the changeover....





ps
...unless his name is Sir Rosol

Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

Interesting. Djoko is out.....most likely.

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

It could be worse...Nadal coming out?!

legendkillar wrote:
Right. Sucking up to posters I've debated with over the years. Coming from someone asking for suggestions for a new name

Yep, that's right!
And no, that's a false equivalence. No one can seriously argue I post things so people on this forum can agree with them.

The Special One wrote:

legendkillar wrote:
Right. Sucking up to posters I've debated with over the years. Coming from someone asking for suggestions for a new name

Yep, that's right!
And no, that's a false equivalence. No one can seriously argue I post things so people on this forum can agree with them.

Brilliant.

So I post a link without stating an opinion and yet that's interpretated that I've asked for agreement from other posters? Whereas you directly asking for it is not?

Dear oh dear. Keep digging.

I don't need the rub of others unlike you.

The Special One wrote:What's the relevance of that to USO 2016?
Or just an easy attempt to suck up to people who you know hate Nadal.

Nishikori took a 10-15 break between sets. If he had stomach problems and was doing the number 2 I would be very sympathetic, but it's emerged he was having a shower. I don't think it's right to have a shower between sets like that.

To quote one of your previous IDs/names (forgot which one now): ad hominem attack!

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jul/24/thetimes-plagiarism

Pretty bad. Especially when the paying public get the raw deal.

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jul/24/thetimes-plagiarism

Pretty bad. Especially when the paying public get the raw deal.

doping/cheating exists even in the journalism world 
52 instances is pretty serious,thats cheating/stealing and getting paid for it 52 times!
i dont now whats more shocking,the 52 times or the fact that he actually thought that he would get away with it without anyone ever noticing 

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jul/24/thetimes-plagiarism

Pretty bad. Especially when the paying public get the raw deal.

doping/cheating exists even in the journalism world 
52 instances is pretty serious,thats cheating/stealing and getting paid for it 52 times!
i dont now whats more shocking,the 52 times or the fact that he actually thought that he would get away with it without anyone ever noticing 

Ironic that he was exposed by another tennis journalist!

Arguably the worst thing you could do. Almost on par with Piers Morgan!

To me the worst is him trying t creep back from under his rock with this "mystery" pre-USO announcement.

The whole tennis caravan (players, journalists and coaches) have known about it but had to keep quiet since Wimbledon.

Spineless slimeball.

He must have some contacts from his years of journalism, though given the backlash he got on Twitter when all this plagiarism scandal broke it wouldn't be wise to antagonise the tennis community.

noleisthebest wrote:To me the worst is him trying t creep back from under his rock with this "mystery" pre-USO announcement.

The whole tennis caravan (players, journalists and coaches) have known about it but had to keep quiet since Wimbledon.

Spineless slimeball.

it does seem really suspicious like he is tweeting things to try and remain current and relevant 
anyone cant hint at anything or nothing doesnt automatically mean its true

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jul/24/thetimes-plagiarism

Pretty bad. Especially when the paying public get the raw deal.

doping/cheating exists even in the journalism world 
52 instances is pretty serious,thats cheating/stealing and getting paid for it 52 times!
i dont now whats more shocking,the 52 times or the fact that he actually thought that he would get away with it without anyone ever noticing 

Ironic that he was exposed by another tennis journalist!

Arguably the worst thing you could do. Almost on par with Piers Morgan!

what do you mean by that? 
last i remember when he was editor of the mirror he was involved in that scandal with the pictures of the british soldiers in iraq which ended up getting him sacked 
is that what youre talking about?

legendkillar wrote:

So I post a link without stating an opinion and yet that's interpretated that I've asked for agreement from other posters?

Yes, because the implication of the link is obvious. If there was a forum where everyone hated Andy Murray, and people on the forum were always complaining that he swears too much, and then I tried to suck up to them by posting a link to Murray complaining about Kyrgios using the C-word on court (let's imagine he did)- then the implication would be obvious.
You're all about straight talking, let's not pretend otherwise.

legendkiller wrote:Whereas you directly asking for it is not?

Are you seriously saying that any Nadal fan would choose this forum if they wanted a group of people to agree with their views? I know that's not true, you know that's not true, there's no debate there.
I chose my nickname independent of my jovial thread anyway, as you can see, although even if I hadn't it wouldn't have suddenly changed the dynamics of the forum.

noleisthebest wrote:To me the worst is him trying t creep back from under his rock with this "mystery" pre-USO announcement.

The whole tennis caravan (players, journalists and coaches) have known about it but had to keep quiet since Wimbledon.

Spineless slimeball.

Why don't you say it!
Don't be like that magician on Channel 4 (Derren Brown or something), who revealed the lottery numbers 5 seconds after the lottery numbers had been released already.

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

Veejay wrote:

legendkillar wrote:Neil Harman disgraced tennis journalist has announced on Twitter that maybe a twist is coming for the US Open.

Speculation is rife that it's either Djokovic pulling out or Federer coming back!

please let it be federer coming back!!
why is neil harman disgraced?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jul/24/thetimes-plagiarism

Pretty bad. Especially when the paying public get the raw deal.

doping/cheating exists even in the journalism world 
52 instances is pretty serious,thats cheating/stealing and getting paid for it 52 times!
i dont now whats more shocking,the 52 times or the fact that he actually thought that he would get away with it without anyone ever noticing 

Ironic that he was exposed by another tennis journalist!

Arguably the worst thing you could do. Almost on par with Piers Morgan!

what do you mean by that? 
last i remember when he was editor of the mirror he was involved in that scandal with the pictures of the british soldiers in iraq which ended up getting him sacked 
is that what youre talking about?

That and phone hacking.

The Special One wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

So I post a link without stating an opinion and yet that's interpretated that I've asked for agreement from other posters?

Yes, because the implication of the link is obvious. If there was a forum where everyone hated Andy Murray, and people on the forum were always complaining that he swears too much, and then I tried to suck up to them by posting a link to Murray complaining about Kyrgios using the C-word on court (let's imagine he did)- then the implication would be obvious.
You're all about straight talking, let's not pretend otherwise.

legendkiller wrote:Whereas you directly asking for it is not?

Are you seriously saying that any Nadal fan would choose this forum if they wanted a group of people to agree with their views? I know that's not true, you know that's not true, there's no debate there.
I chose my nickname independent of my jovial thread anyway, as you can see, although even if I hadn't it wouldn't have suddenly changed the dynamics of the forum.

Here's some advice.

Look at what I am saying instead of what I am not saying. Don't convolute the argument like you always do.

legendkillar wrote:

Look at what I am saying instead of what I am not saying. Don't convolute the argument like you always do.

I'm not convoluting it, I mean surely the subsequent reaction by Tenez et al. were very predictable, I know you're bright enough and have been on the forum long enough to see that coming from a mile away. Either that or you didn't see the reaction coming, and posted this link rather randomly on an irrelevant thread.

It looks like we won't reach an agreement on this, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

The Special One wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

Look at what I am saying instead of what I am not saying. Don't convolute the argument like you always do.

I'm not convoluting it, I mean surely the subsequent reaction by Tenez et al. were very predictable, I know you're bright enough and have been on the forum long enough to see that coming from a mile away. Either that or you didn't see the reaction coming, and posted this link rather randomly on an irrelevant thread.

It looks like we won't reach an agreement on this, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

Sigh.

This very exchange reinforces my growing dissatisfaction and dislike for tennis forums over a small period of time. I post a link about Nadal. In the very first sentence there is a smiley which is for me an indication this is done in jest and I know the very reaction it will get. I even say it. The very fact you say the forum hates Nadwl suggests that is only their agenda. They would strongly disagree. If you know my posting style over the years, you'd know with that link I was taking the piss. Click bait if you will. You took offence. That's your problem.

As time has gone by, my desire to debate on tennis forums has deteriorated. This is down to a rare few who are incapable of debating or discussing the written word. Like there is something else behind what people post and I have grown tired of having to explain oneself over and over again and even after that these rare posters can't grasp it and revert to their own interpretation. I don't know if that's because they a) they can't read or b) just plain ignorance.

With all that said, I wish you well.

legendkillar wrote:
If you know my posting style over the years, you'd know with that link I was taking the piss. Click bait if you will. You took offence. That's your problem.

I didn't get offended. If it's clickbait taking the piss that's ok, I wasn't offended but do have a right to my opinion. What I was saying, and what you've said now, isn't mutually exclusive.

legendkillar wrote:
As time has gone by, my desire to debate on tennis forums has deteriorated. This is down to a rare few who are incapable of debating or discussing the written word.

To be fair to both of us, even you just admitted this was clickbait, not a serious debate you were starting up.
Lack of reason for debates lately isn't to do with posters, but because the game seems to be stagnating, I mean even the 'young guns' are getting old now.

OK; moving on from that.

NITB- time to spill the beans! Or give us some more clues.

Silent ban! ......up to Sept 1st!

All in good time!

Why isn't Nerdych playing the USA?

Nerdych has got appendicitis:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/08/tomas-berdych-drops-out-of-us-open-because-of-appendicitis/60086/


Draw out on Friday!

this was posted on rogers facebook page with a picture of him and laver together...wonder if this is what being speculated about?

"Hi Everyone-Join me for a special Laver Cup announcement at 9:30 AM EST on the Laver Cup Facebook page. 

[ltr]#LaverCup"[/ltr]

Well, I hope it's not this: 

love that ad!! federer is timeless :P
in the photo wth photo with laver the background says "laver cup" 
sounds like the launch of either a new title/prize or new tournament

noleisthebest wrote:Well, I hope it's not this: 

Excellent. There is an old fashion look about him. he must have made more money with this ads that Nole and Murray put together on court!

Yes, Fed's certainly got the looks...

noleisthebest wrote:All in good time!

Still waiting!
Don't do a Derren Brown... draw tomorrow

Who is Darren Brown?