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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:59 am

All set for the final.

Novak Djokovic (SRB) [50]
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Stan Wawrinka (SUI) [100]


My pick:

1. Stan 'the man' Wawrinka ( JOKER )

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Post by summerblues Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:54 am

There is no other way:

Stan (Joker)

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:38 am

Unlike the previous two, I really look forward to this match.
Conditions should be perfect for play.

After beating Nadal and Murray, I can't see anything and anyone stop Nole now.

Stan has been playing well in Paris, but Fed and Tsonga could not hurt him with their BHs.
Nole used his dropshots so well against Nadal and Murray, they should work even better against Stan.
Stan, the pyjama man (I actually quite like the look) doesn't play well when pushed behind the baseline, but he can impose himself if he starts serving well.

It should be a nice match.

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Post by Polly 81 Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:40 am

Wawrinka (Joker)

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:23 am

Just had a look at comments on Serbian websites....if only you could read them! Winking

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:43 am

It's all about the prediction game! Winking

DjokoDjoker.

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Post by Tenez Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:44 am

I will be missing the first hour or so...... Grr

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:01 am

Tenez wrote:  It's all about the prediction game!  Winking

DjokoDjoker.

Not that anyone had any doubts! Winking

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Post by gallery play Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:14 am

Djoko joker

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Post by gallery play Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:16 am

Tenez wrote:I will be missing the first hour or so...... Grr
Too bad. That's the only part worth while watching

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:45 pm

Tenez wrote:I will be missing the first hour or so...... Grr
Good luck if you're playing! diva

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Post by summerblues Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:09 pm

Good Luck Stan

I expect easy straight sets for Nole, hoping for easy straight sets for Stan.

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:17 pm

Stan (joker). Gung ho as ever Big Grin

HJ: Djoko (joker)

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:18 pm

AH: Djoko (joker)

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:23 pm

Wow, thought I'd try the commentary, what poisoning PR BS from Wilander...no thanks!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:26 pm

Belmondo's aged!

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:26 pm

Good start from Stan. Break now!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:31 pm

Stan belting the ball with all his might from 3m behind the baseline....amazing!

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Post by summerblues Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:41 pm

That was too cheap a way to give up a break.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:42 pm

Very clever play from Nole in this last game sending a super fast shot to Stan's BH.
Stan is good with his BH while rallying but once you attack it, very vulnerable, and I mean attack, not bludgeon...

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:54 pm

After the agony with Nadal and Murray I keep thinking this is just another match, not the final.

I still regularly have nightmares how I need to pass one more exam...had those so many times, I even tell myself in the dream it's a dream, but it doesn't work!

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Post by AceofDeath Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:01 pm

Novak is mentally very strong despite his much weaker groundstrokes. Hoping for Stan to atleast win a set today, he will if Novak level drops like he did in SF zen

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:03 pm

when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:04 pm

AceofDeath wrote:Novak is mentally very strong despite his much weaker groundstrokes. Hoping for Stan to atleast win a set today, he will if Novak level drops like he did in SF zen
Nole can belt the ball as hard as Stan but not non-stop, he just isn't that strong.
Stan does time the ball very well, too.

If I were Nole, I'd start drop-shotting Stan now and then.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:05 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

What makes you say he was robbed, it's very hard to make an error with marks on clay.
I think HE is less accurate esp in those 1-3mm calls.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:07 pm

Nole is making it hard for Stan to play his game.
His serve is really keeping him in.

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:07 pm

Stan hitting on average 11mph faster on ground strokes.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:08 pm

luvsports! wrote:Stan hitting on average 11mph faster on ground strokes.

That's not a surprise.
How long can he maintain it?

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:11 pm

Hopefully for 3 sets to give him the win Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:12 pm

Stan's footwork is not that great on clay.

He looks really very compact and explosive live. More athletic than on TV.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:12 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

What makes you say he was robbed, it's very hard to make an error with marks on clay.
I think HE is less accurate esp in those 1-3mm calls.

Are you even watching?? It was winner and in by more than 5 mm. hawk-eye these days has error % of only 1mm it was clearly in by far more than that. If that point had been stan's the  next 3 points were his too. And the break...

If it was hard to make errors on clay, not hardy agreeing to it. Human error is always going to be more than calibrated machine.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:14 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

What makes you say he was robbed, it's very hard to make an error with marks on clay.
I think HE is less accurate esp in those 1-3mm calls.

Are you even watching?? It was winner and in by more than 5 mm. hawk-eye these days has error % of only 1mm it was clearly in by far more than that. If that point had been stan's the  next 3 points were his too. And the break...

If it was hard to make errors on clay, not hardy agreeing to it. Human error is always going to be more than calibrated machine.

Yes, I am watching and I didn't see that winner was in.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:16 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

What makes you say he was robbed, it's very hard to make an error with marks on clay.
I think HE is less accurate esp in those 1-3mm calls.

Are you even watching?? It was winner and in by more than 5 mm. hawk-eye these days has error % of only 1mm it was clearly in by far more than that. If that point had been stan's the  next 3 points were his too. And the break...

If it was hard to make errors on clay, not hardy agreeing to it. Human error is always going to be more than calibrated machine.

Yes, I am watching and I didn't see that winner was in.
of course. Only that it WAS in and it was shown by the TV hawk-eye...

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:18 pm

Djoko hits 4 shots in "attack" and one blast from Stan makes him scramble desperately, defending for his life. Shotmaking ability and ballstriking stark.

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Post by summerblues Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:21 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Yes, I am watching and I didn't see that winner was in.
Well, obviously smiley

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:27 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:when will RG bring in the old hawk-eye into play... it robbed Stan of a Break in the first set... 

Djo-Murray semis too, Pascal Maria made many errors on line calls. Its really stupid now not to have it.

What makes you say he was robbed, it's very hard to make an error with marks on clay.
I think HE is less accurate esp in those 1-3mm calls.

Are you even watching?? It was winner and in by more than 5 mm. hawk-eye these days has error % of only 1mm it was clearly in by far more than that. If that point had been stan's the  next 3 points were his too. And the break...

If it was hard to make errors on clay, not hardy agreeing to it. Human error is always going to be more than calibrated machine.

Yes, I am watching and I didn't see that winner was in.
of course. Only that it WAS in and it was shown by the TV hawk-eye...
I trust umpire's judgement on clay over hawkeye any day. Unless Nadal is playing Winking

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:29 pm

Stan lacks variety. Power is not enough, esp in these conditions.
His game is the same as Berd's.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Stan lacks variety. Power is not enough, esp in these conditions.
His game is the same as Berd's.
 Does Djokovic has any variety?
  Laugh

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:46 pm

luvsports! wrote:Djoko hits 4 shots in "attack" and one blast from Stan makes him scramble desperately, defending for his life. Shotmaking ability and ballstriking stark.
Yet it's Stan who wins majority of 3+ and 9+ and Nole thise under 3 shots.

What does that say?

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:47 pm

Blinkers on nitb. No way is he berdych. He attacks, takes risks and is a shot maker. Djoko isn't.

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:49 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Djoko hits 4 shots in "attack" and one blast from Stan makes him scramble desperately, defending for his life. Shotmaking ability and ballstriking stark.
Yet it's Stan who wins majority of 3+ and 9+  and Nole thise under 3 shots.

What does that say?

28 winners stan 13 djoko. Says a lot no?

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:50 pm

ALLLEEZZZZZZZZZ

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:51 pm

luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Djoko hits 4 shots in "attack" and one blast from Stan makes him scramble desperately, defending for his life. Shotmaking ability and ballstriking stark.
Yet it's Stan who wins majority of 3+ and 9+  and Nole thise under 3 shots.

What does that say?

28 winners stan 13 djoko. Says a lot no?
But it doesn't answer my question.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:53 pm

luvsports! wrote:Blinkers on nitb. No way is he berdych. He attacks, takes risks and is a shot maker. Djoko isn't.

Yes he does take more risk which is why he is so inconsistent compared to Berd.

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Post by summerblues Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:53 pm

Fair after two sets - better player won each set.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:53 pm

luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Djoko hits 4 shots in "attack" and one blast from Stan makes him scramble desperately, defending for his life. Shotmaking ability and ballstriking stark.
Yet it's Stan who wins majority of 3+ and 9+  and Nole thise under 3 shots.

What does that say?

28 winners stan 13 djoko. Says a lot no?

Do you have that stat for Fed - Stan match?

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:55 pm

Stan hit more winners. Quite a bit more. Can't compare feds and djoko if that's what you mean?

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:55 pm

summerblues wrote:Fair after two sets - better player won each set.

Nole's had his physical slump hitting hard with Stan but he'll get out of it.
Of the two he is a lot more tired after the tough draw and uneven scheduling.

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:02 pm

That's better Novak. Don't defend all the time.

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Post by luvsports! Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:05 pm

Could that be the bit Stan looks back on as the end of his chances?

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