ca chauffe!

When I was telling you capitalism could be as bad if not worse than communism!

Its economy in the long run can only be sustained through expansion, war and chaos...like a cancer spreading. Here NATO which is in effect the US army disguised as a Transatlantic organisation has carried on expanding since WW2 where communism withdrew.

According to Brzezinski's the great Chessbord, NATO has to split Russia in 2 and acquire (invade) Ukraine. Russia has no choice but to stop this expansion which of course is portrayed by our sold media as a Russian invasion.

For those who have children, it's time to worry!

Capitalism is evil

Workers of the world, unite!

Good, hope they split Russia in 400 parts, what good are they to this world? Vodka? Meh.

Next should be China, totally nuked and relived of communism, we can all pay double the price to have Europe made products, no big deal.

Funny enough all anti-capitalists and pro-communists, have never lived in a communist's system, yet they love it, guess Cubans and Venezuelans are happy too with their system 

Long live Capitalism !! Down with social handouts!! You work or you die, simple.

Total bollocks Tenez & Nax. You are confusing free market capitalism with Corporatism.

Free market is about choice and accountability. I define it as a system where everyone has the right to decline any offer made to them. It’s beautiful because at it’s heart you only thrive by offering other people what they will accept. It’s got absolutely F all to do with what you think it is.

Socialism is all about compulsion. It cannot exist unless you are forced to act against your will.

Jahu wrote:Good, hope they split Russia in 400 parts, what good are they to this world? Vodka? Meh.

Next should be China, totally nuked and relived of communism, we can all pay double the price to have Europe made products, no big deal.

Funny enough all anti-capitalists and pro-communists, have never lived in a communist's system, yet they love it, guess Cubans and Venezuelans are happy too with their system 

Long live Capitalism !! Down with social handouts!! You work or you die, simple.

You and I might end up in 400 parts before Russia does! No one has managed to conqueer Russia and She has been the doom of a few former conquerors.

I am not a communist nor anything that has anything to do with ist or ism.

bogbrush wrote:Total bollocks Tenez & Nax. You are confusing free market capitalism with Corporatism.

Free market is about choice and accountability. I define it as a system where everyone has the right to decline any offer made to them. It’s beautiful because at it’s heart you only thrive by offering other people what they will accept. It’s got absolutely F all to do with what you think it is.

Socialism is all about compulsion. It cannot exist unless you are forced to act against your will.

I know your view on this but whatever system you believe in, men or worse money make it work and nothing comes without a side effect.

Now you’re just saying you think humans are bad and need controlling. I guess you were totally in favour of compelling Djokovic to get jabbed.

There’s no wiggle room, either you want to people to live under the rule of the State or you want people to be free to make their own choices limited only by not harming another. That’s the choice, one or the other.

I'm all for giving workers a decent pay & care, i.e Bezos sucks with his quarter of a trillion $ yet pays not even minimum to his workers, but as BB says that's just bad Corporatism.

On the other hand Porsche gave 9.000 euro to each worker as a bonus, VW 5.000 to each, so there are good cases of capitalism too, just load of greed around that socio/communism can not sort.

And yes, Russia will eventually fold or have a revolution and be decimated, only thing keeping Putin alive by not being liquidated by USA, is that dumb Russians need a tough hand like Putin to keep them in line and keep the nukes safe from drunk generals. China will melt at some point too.

So yes, capitalism ROCKS! Idiotic greedy capitalists suck of course.

bogbrush wrote:Now you’re just saying you think humans are bad and need controlling. I guess you were totally in favour of compelling Djokovic to get jabbed.

There’s no wiggle room, either you want to people to live under the rule of the State or you want people to be free to make their own choices limited only by not harming another. That’s the choice, one or the other.

No It's not what I say. I say there is 2 sides to anything. Including men! Dr jekyll and Mr Hyde. Corporatism as you call it, is another creation of man. And to believe in a system which has no downside is a bit naive if you ask me. WWI or WWII were not due to corporatism.

But my main point here, is that capitalism (or free market) can lead to as much if not more chaos than communism ever did.

How could a system governed by Common Law principles where people are free to make offers to others, and the others free to decline them, ever be bad?
Corporatism lives off State regulation. The two are inseparable.

I’m afraid that the option you seem to be endorsing is that a governing person tells them all how to live.

Capitalism isn't perfect and needs some tweaking.  But to suggest we do away with it isn't an answer.  We've all seen where that goes... and it's worse than anything Hitler conjured up.