Aus Open Day 9:

Tenez wrote:

bogbrush wrote:Oh here we go......

And you predicted it!

Djeez, he'll never learn. Or is this being a pro?

Tenez wrote:

barrystar wrote:Thinking of Nadal v. del Potro Wimbledon 2011...

I can give you 10 other cases like that!

Hamburg...the mother of all  (effective) MTO's

Or the "banana in throat" incident against JPM..

OMG Cilic - have you ever heard of rope-a-dope?

Cilic needs to stay calm here, not rush.

noleisthebest wrote:Stupid commentators saying how Nadal rarely takes MTOs because doesn’t want his opponent to see he is injured... !

Who is that commentator? amri?

Cilic needs to learn that 00:40 at 4:1 doesn’t mean he’s won a set and start playing like he is Federer.

reminds me a 5/1 lead Cilic had v Murray at the USO a few years ago.....and of course blew it off.

Important hold there. Very.

Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Why the Hell has Cilic started over pressing?

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Yes, by 155.

nadal is number 1 after AO since he got to quarters

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Looks like he has sadly! by a mere 160points!

Tenez wrote:reminds me a 5/1 lead Cilic had v Murray at the USO a few years ago.....and of course blew it off.

Let’s see if he has learnt from that mistake and serve the thing out!

Tenez wrote:BTW, let's not forget to congratulate Dimi for reaching his 4th 1/4Final at 28.

26

Important for Cilic to break now.

Tenez wrote:

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Looks like he has sadly! by a mere 160points!

It will all be worth it on Sunday!

As bb says, now it's on Cilic's racquet, even down to serving first in the 5th set.

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Let's not count any chickens - you can work it out on here https://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-live-ranking

It's not ranking that counts now, it's the back-and-forth battle to finish with the highest number of slams.

I am glad he broke because I am not sure he would have served it out.

After the miss at 5:5 in TB I thought he would collapse.

barrystar wrote:As bb says, now it's on Cilic's racquet, even down to serving first in the 5th set.

Let’s see what Cilic is made of.

Nadal is faking all these niggles, but at least no more MTOs in the fifth set.

I wonder what otjer tricks he has up that sleeveles top...

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

Tenez wrote:

Jahu wrote:Cilic wins this match, nitb dates me, Nadal wins, I date nitb.

LOL! At last some serious comments!

     Luv you both my children.


BTW who is youngest here? LS? jahu?

I'm almost 35 now, so must not be.

Hahahah, 35 is not a lot man, me can drink now Alcohol in USA 

Cilic officially has 2 balls now!!! Keep it up madafakaaa

Cilic..LOL! Poor guy!

He is clearly injured. No doubt but not as much as Cilic is mentally.

bogbrush wrote:

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Yes, by 155.

If Federer is ever going to be #1 again, I would suggest that his chance will come for a stretch of 1 or 2 weeks after Dubai.  For that to happen (a) He'll have to win this tournament - miles from a foregone conclusion and (b) he'll have to do better than R2 in Dubai and/or Nadal fails to repeat his 300 points for being losing finalist in Acapulco.

well played cilic.

I expected a better outcome for nadal, but it was not meant to be.

Glad for the croatian

I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

barrystar wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

Tenez wrote:Has Nadal earned enough points so that Fed cannot be number 1 shoudl Nadal lose now and the other will it all?

Yes, by 155.

If Federer is ever going to be #1 again, I would suggest that his chance will come for a stretch of 1 or 2 weeks after Dubai.  For that to happen (a) He'll have to win this tournament - miles from a foregone conclusion and (b) he'll have to do better than R2 in Dubai and/or Nadal fails to repeat his 300 points for being losing finalist in Acapulco.

Even Better, he shoudl play a couple of challengers, right after the AO. He can do it on one leg.

Kyle Edmunds must be wetting himself.

bogbrush wrote:I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

I think he just pulled a muscle...in a month time he will be perfectly fine. hence playing the challengers now. He coudl get some good invitation fees too!

Wow. Strange ending. Rafa was unable to hit off his leg so I suppose a retirement was necessary. Too bad.

Tenez wrote:

bogbrush wrote:I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

I think he just pulled a muscle...in a month time he will be perfectly fine. hence playing the challengers now. He coudl get some good invitation fees too!

Maybe - but it can be that when a top athlete pulls a muscle that's a sign of the need to be compensating for something elsewhere - I hope not because much as I don't like Nadal, I don't wish injuries on anyone.

From the bits of what I saw of Edmund, I would not be shocked if he makes the final. He played quite well, in spite of his nose.

If Fed does not win #20 now, he never will.

Crush the madafaka, no mercyyyyy

Edmund v. Chung....

In the era of materialisation of the 20% chance you know it makes sense

gallery play wrote:

Tenez wrote:

barrystar wrote:Thinking of Nadal v. del Potro Wimbledon 2011...

I can give you 10 other cases like that!

Hamburg...the mother of all  (effective) MTO's

Or the "banana in throat" incident against JPM..

yes I remember Hamburg 08! That was terrible. But Also FO 11! Wimbledon 07 Final..and many more!

I think if Fed were to get to #1, the best chance would probably be during the clay court season - even if he does not play. If he collects enough points to be close to Rafa before the clay court season starts and if Rafa then does not quite replicate his last year's results, Fed could sneak to #1 then.

barrystar wrote:

Tenez wrote:

bogbrush wrote:I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

I think he just pulled a muscle...in a month time he will be perfectly fine. hence playing the challengers now. He coudl get some good invitation fees too!

Maybe - but it can be that when a top athlete pulls a muscle that's a sign of the need to be compensating for something elsewhere - I hope not because much as I don't like Nadal, I don't wish injuries on anyone.

His normal pattern is now to vanish for three months. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something going on.
I agree it isn’t like his knee.

barrystar wrote:

Tenez wrote:

bogbrush wrote:I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

I think he just pulled a muscle...in a month time he will be perfectly fine. hence playing the challengers now. He coudl get some good invitation fees too!

Maybe - but it can be that when a top athlete pulls a muscle that's a sign of the need to be compensating for something elsewhere - I hope not because much as I don't like Nadal, I don't wish injuries on anyone.

It's simply stretching too much, especially if dehydrated. He put extra effort on trying to bring back some of those serves like he was trying to hard v Ferrer here a few years ago.

We know he needs to be 120% fit to have a chance at winning anything. He cannot do it within the time rule and with similar fitness as everybody.

Such a shame
Both players I thought were playing really well all throughout, Cilic was really returning superbly.
Not sure what the injury is, but Nadal has 6 weeks from now till Indian Wells, hopefully that's enough time to recover, rest, and then start practicing again.
Federer I think will get to number 1 soon and frankly it's only fair that he gets to number one as well given his level of tennis.

Stay classy, Amrit

barrystar wrote:Edmund v. Chung....

In the era of materialisation of the 20% chance you know it makes sense

I bloody hope so!

bogbrush wrote:

barrystar wrote:

Tenez wrote:

bogbrush wrote:I think Nadal will now be out for a fair while, so Federer needs to win this then turn up somewhere before Indian Wells.

I think he just pulled a muscle...in a month time he will be perfectly fine. hence playing the challengers now. He coudl get some good invitation fees too!

Maybe - but it can be that when a top athlete pulls a muscle that's a sign of the need to be compensating for something elsewhere - I hope not because much as I don't like Nadal, I don't wish injuries on anyone.

His normal pattern is now to vanish for three months. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something going on.
I agree it isn’t like his knee.

Don't agree with what you say about his usual pattern.  The last time he did not play at least one tournament on the 'South America Swing' between AO and IW was 2012.  What seems to change from year to year is the clay/hard balance.

His no. 1 priority will (should) be making sure he is in top form for the European Clay season.

So Fed wins AO, RG and W? This is madness!!!

Wow, I missed the fifth set completely!
Well the teo games of it.

Well done Marine, Careeeeee!!!

Tenez wrote:Cilic..LOL! Poor guy!

What did he do?

noleisthebest wrote:

Tenez wrote:Cilic..LOL! Poor guy!

What did he do?

Won on a retirement?

I still get a bit of pleasure watching Nadal lose, regardless the way he loses. I am over 50 and it is sad...do I care? no!