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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:39 pm

Many attractive matches:

Zverev-Nadal
Dimitrov-Gasquet
Paire-Thiem
Goffin-Karlovic
Simon-Raonic
Ferrer-Agut
Monfils--Kohlschreiber
and of course...
Busta-Istomin


Zverev-Nadal playing in day session, so fastest possible conditions, should be interesting.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:30 am

it's one set all....so I guess it is still open...

Nadal
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Goffin
Rao
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Monfils
Busta

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:30 am

Early NITB...is this because you are on the continent?

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:44 am

Nadal is running him down....But those who thinks Nadal has declined don't have a clue. Zverev is much better than any of those guys Nadal was facing in 2008.

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Post by Jahu Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:34 am

2:1 in sets for Zverev.

Nadal has no depth or power, guess he has gone clean at the end of his career.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:35 am

Amazing retrieving from Nadal....but nowadays it might not be enough.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:35 am

God, Nadal is a piece of shit isn't he?  Fist pumping an unforced error all the time again.  Just the same old defensive crap too.  Just running and moonballing.  Zverev played UNBELIEVABLE to win that tie breaker.  He has about 2x the talent of this pusher.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:36 am

Tenez wrote:Amazing retrieving from Nadal....but nowadays it might not be enough.

Nothing to do with "nowadays". He's coming up against a player who can hit winners and who is playing great stuff. Nadal did lose all the time in those tournaments Federer won 2004-9... You remember?

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:37 am

Jahu wrote:2:1 in sets for Zverev.

Nadal has no depth or power, guess he has gone clean at the end of his career.

Your kidding...he runs like crazy but he is facing players who can handle his spin....before he woudl get 40UEs from it. In fact it did today again. But his poor winner ratio was enough to win him matches in the past. It is not nowadays.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:40 am

Daniel wrote:
Tenez wrote:Amazing retrieving from Nadal....but nowadays it might not be enough.

Nothing to do with "nowadays". He's coming up against a player who can hit winners and who is playing great stuff. Nadal did lose all the time in those tournaments Federer won 2004-9... You remember?

yes I do....he even struggled in those years where he won everything but managed to scrap through a lot of very close match. and he might do again today.....but the difference is that back then only him could last 5 sets with that much running.....now they all do.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:47 am

Imagine how much better Zverev will be when he is 28 29,,,,do you think the rest of teh field will be distanced or they are all going to adapt and move the game to new levels again?

If you want a clue...look at McEnroe/Connors Wimby 84 when we thought this level coudl not be surpassed...

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:13 am

Zverev is not aggressive enough. It's not a bad tactic v Nadal....but if you don't make him run, he will make you run.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:17 am

Fist pumping like a tosser again.  Has there ever been a more ignorant and awful player than this?  He actually thinks he's better than Zverev too.  He's just a retriever lol.

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Post by Jahu Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:18 am

Zverev choked this set, lets see on the fifth, hard to beat Nadal in 5 sets, if you have not taken the first 2.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:20 am

Jahu wrote:Zverev choked this set, lets see on the fifth, hard to beat Nadal in 5 sets, if you have not taken the first 2.

Once that was true.  Nadal isn't the player he was. He's half a step slower and it's getting worse.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:21 am

Nadal can't do forehands like that consistently if his life depended on it.

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Post by Jahu Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:22 am

Seriously this thin russian spy has some speed on his FH.

Nadal cant see the balls flying, Rosol style.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:25 am

All Nadal can do is the same shit he always has.  Defend and hope for errors.  Moonball.  It's tiresome.  Great to see him at Wimbledon again getting his arse handed to him.  He'll prob skip it.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:28 am

Also, Tony coached earlier again - and Nadal is repeatedly being allowed to severely violate the time rule.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:29 am

Also, can someone tell me why they don't do an underarm serve on Nadal?  LOOK HOW FAR back he is!

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:30 am

Tenez wrote: ]Early NITB...is this because you are on the continent?
What do you mean?

I am not on the continent.

Just woke up for the 5th set!


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Post by Jahu Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:30 am

Don't think Zverev can handle this 5th set, he is getting tired and losing his sharpness, now broken again, wtf.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:31 am

Well, Zverev is 19 and will take a couple of years to reach his best. He's lost focus.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:33 am

Daniel wrote:Well, Zverev is 19 and will take a couple of years to reach his best. He's lost focus.
Or maybe the fitter player (Nadal) has drained him. (Either that or he is a superior shotmaker.)

Despite being 11 years older and declined according to your theory.

Plus, you say Nadal is clean.

How does he do it.....

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Post by Jahu Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:37 am

ITS eems Zverev is a bigger moonball, 72 cm to 68 net clearance average.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:38 am

Wow, I didn't realise Nadal has lost so much hair!!!!! Yikes

Didn't he have hair transplant recently?

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:40 am

Nadal is wrecking his own legs.... As usual.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:43 am

Funny how Nadal is going for Zverev's BH exclusively....like he has no plan B.

He must be exhausted, as well.

Davai Zver!!!

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:44 am

When is this pig going to get a time violation?

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:45 am

Nadal is taking HOURS between the points!!!!

This is absolutely DISGUSTING!!!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:46 am

NITB wrote:
Tenez wrote: ]Early NITB...is this because you are on the continent?
What do you mean?

I am not on the continent.

Just woke up for the 5th set!
My mistake i mixed 5.50pm with am...

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:47 am

Nadal pretending that he's looking for a mark.... 

Wasting time.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:48 am

Nadal should have been warned for time violations about 20 times already.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:50 am

Daniel wrote:Nadal pretending that he's looking for a mark.... 

Wasting time.
Or trying to disrupt & disturb server'a rhythm/focus (esp after an ace) ...oldest trick in the book.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:50 am

He's even stopping Zverev from serving now too!

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:51 am

It's amazing how far a slow sliced BH can take you.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:52 am

God I can't stand this ridiculous pusher!

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:53 am

Why didn't he just drop it over the net?????

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:54 am

Daniel wrote:
Jahu wrote:Zverev choked this set, lets see on the fifth, hard to beat Nadal in 5 sets, if you have not taken the first 2.

Once that was true.  Nadal isn't the player he was. He's half a step slower and it's getting worse.

yeah...you have no clue!

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:55 am

Nadal is doing nothing..  He's just putting a racquet out and tapping it back.,  It's pathetic.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:55 am

Tenez wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Jahu wrote:Zverev choked this set, lets see on the fifth, hard to beat Nadal in 5 sets, if you have not taken the first 2.

Once that was true.  Nadal isn't the player he was. He's half a step slower and it's getting worse.

yeah...you have no clue!

One match doesn't make a rule.  Let me know when you get this.  There's a reason why he's been losing more recently. Unless you think Santa Claus did it?

Anyway, you're the fool talking about how his style "won't work now"  lol.  Doh

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:56 am

Daniel wrote:Nadal is doing nothing..  He's just putting a racquet out and tapping it back.,  It's pathetic.

What do you expect him to do?
Play like Federer? Laugh

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:57 am

CALL THE TRAINER.  FFS! Is this guy dumb???

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:59 am

Daniel wrote:CALL THE TRAINER.  FFS! Is this guy dumb???
You can't get a trainer for cramps.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:59 am

Look at Nadal strutting around the court.  Rubbing it in.  I hate this animal. And it's only lucky genetics that's led him to be this fit after 5 sets.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:59 am

NITB wrote:
Daniel wrote:CALL THE TRAINER.  FFS! Is this guy dumb???
You can't get a trainer for cramps.

Nor could nadal - but he did 100x by just lying.  So pretend to fall or cruckle.  Do what Nadal does!
All he has to do is fall over slightly - instead of looking like a gormless fool with cramp.  Make no mistake about it, Nadal would have.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:00 am

Wow, Nadal still running down even volleys from the opposite end of the court...

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:02 am

Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:02 am

Daniel wrote:
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Daniel wrote:CALL THE TRAINER.  FFS! Is this guy dumb???
You can't get a trainer for cramps.

Nor could nadal - but he did 100x by just lying.  So pretend to fall or cruckle.  Do what Nadal does!
All he has to do is fall over slightly - instead of looking like a gormless fool with cramp.  Make no mistake about it, Nadal would have.
I don't remember ever seeing Nadal cramp, maybe during the AO 2012 trophy ceremony.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:04 am

Nadal is able to go from defense to attack cause Zve is just not aggressive enough.

But like most defender Zve has a strong mind.

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