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Post by Larry Ellison Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:57 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe Blake got bagelled in the second. What a distorted picture the score gives.
Tennis is like that, it accentuates and emphasises the mental aspect of the game.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:08 am

I can't believe Raonic went for the T with 2nd serve (and double-faulted). He's really realxed.
Blake really needs to take it to him and fast!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:12 am

oh that was a terrible miss at the net....

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Post by Tenez Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:14 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
I think Murray is also in a open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 563610107 state if he is watching!

No, Murray will absorb Raonic's serve no problemo. And when his serve is being returned well, Raonic begins to panic and goes for the lines....and that's usually the beginning of the end. No plan B. Can't play without serve.

Honestly Rao is playing too well. He woudl have beaten Murray tonight easily. Murray had trouble with Lopy's serve...imagine Rao's. Besides Rao is moving extremely well. The way he broke Blake again in that 3rd set was amazing for such a tall guy. Dodgy if you ask me!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:15 am

Maybe Blake should try and receive the serve a bit more behind the base line. On the line clearly not working.

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Post by Larry Ellison Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:16 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
I think Murray is also in a open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 563610107 state if he is watching!

No, Murray will absorb Raonic's serve no problemo. And when his serve is being returned well, Raonic begins to panic and goes for the lines....and that's usually the beginning of the end. No plan B. Can't play without serve.

Honestly Rao is playing too well. He woudl have beaten Murray tonight easily. Murray had trouble with Lopy's serve...imagine Rao's.
No chance. Murray would up his game when needed.

Tenez wrote:Besides Rao is moving extremely well. The way he broke Blake again in that 3rd set was amazing for such a tall guy. Dodgy if you ask me!
You get suspicious at everything Yikes

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:18 am

Tenez wrote:
Honestly Rao is playing too well. He woudl have beaten Murray tonight easily. Murray had trouble with Lopy's serve...imagine Rao's. Besides Rao is moving extremely well. The way he broke Blake again in that 3rd set was amazing for such a tall guy. Dodgy if you ask me!

I'm still not convinced by Raonic. Blake does not defend well and is making Raonic look better than he is in my opinion. Raonic has had zero pressure from Blake.
I didn't watch Murray Lopez, but my guess is that he just wasn't pumped for that match as he usually handles Lopez well.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:22 am

And Blake finally BBREEEEEEEEEEEEEAKSSSSSSSS open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 151447854

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Post by Tenez Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:23 am

Blake's waking up...a bit late for me...open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 3803388186

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:27 am

I have just recognised a bloke in the crowd!!!!! the same one from IW who was taking his shirt off and exposing his grey-haired chest and a beer belly open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 563610107

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:27 am

Tenez wrote:Blake's waking up...a bit late for me...open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 3803388186

no it's not!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:33 am

I really like the non-Ashe NY crowd.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:34 am

USo providing the best of the tennis amongst all slams. Good job organisers.

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:40 am

TIE-BREAK! Come ooooon Jaaaaaaames!!!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:47 am

So sad for Blake. He played his heart out. Hope to see him after USO.
Raonic unchallegend on his serve, look forward to him playing Murray.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:54 am

Come on Sam, knock him out.

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Post by laverfan Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:40 am

The Querrey-Berdych match is almost 2 hours for 2 sets. More than likely it will a 5-setter, which means 5 hours. Winking

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Post by summerblues Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:40 am

Am I imagining it or do players come forward a bit more often this year than usual?

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:55 am

open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 3885497126 open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 3157886161 Laverfan 5/6, wow another topscore

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Post by SayonaRa Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:02 am

summerblues wrote:Am I imagining it or do players come forward a bit more often this year than usual?
No, I see that too. It seems to be the trend. I think Fed inspired it
when he started revamping his game with Anacone and playing more s
& v. As he started winning more with that new aggressive approach,
others follow (the leader)

I remember Fed was the one who
"invented" the deadly drop-shot and the first to used it to advantage (I
think in Madrid'o9? beating rafa). Soon everybody tried to follow (the
leader). Djoko now has his own signature drop shot.

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Post by SayonaRa Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:04 am

I only got 2 right. Beginner's luck gone. open - US open 2012: ATP Matches of the Day: Day 6 - Page 2 3391208243

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:20 am

Results day 6:

[3] A Murray (GBR) d [30] F Lopez (ESP) 76(5) 76(5) 46 76(4)


rotla: -3
tenez: 3
nitb: 3
laverfan: 3
wow: 3
sphairistike: -3
SR: 3

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[6] T Berdych (CZE) d [27] S Querrey (USA) 67(6) 64 63 62

rotla: 6
tenez: 6
nitb: 7
laverfan: 6
wow: -6
sphairistike: -6
SR: -6

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[12] M Cilic (CRO) d [17] K Nishikori (JPN) 63 64 67(3) 63

rotla: 12
tenez: -12
nitb: 12
laverfan: 12
wow: -12
sphairistike: -12
SR: -12
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[15] M Raonic (CAN) d J Blake (USA) 63 60 76(3)

rotla: -15
tenez: -15
nitb: -15
laverfan: 15
wow: -15
sphairistike: -15
SR: 15

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[16] G Simon (FRA) vs [23] M Fish (USA)

rotla: -23
tenez: -23
nitb: 23
laverfan: 23
wow: 23
sphairistike: 23
SR: -23

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M Klizan (SVK) d [32] J Chardy (FRA) 64 64 64

rotla: -33
tenez: -33
nitb: -33
laverfan: -33
wow: 33
sphairistike: -33
SR: -33

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Standings as on 2-Sep-2012:

Points:

rotla: 35 -56 = -21 Cry
tenez: 99 -74 = 25
nitb: 261 -4 = 257
laverfan: 6 + 26 = 32
wow: 89 +26 = 115
sphairistike: 249 -46 = 203
SR: 50 - 56 = -6



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No. of correct predictions

rotla: 17/30 + 2/6 = 19/36
tenez: 19/30 + 2/6 = 21/36
nitb: 23/30 + 4/6 = 27/36
laverfan: 17/30 + 5/6 = 22/36
wow: 20/30 + 3/6 = 23/36
sphairistike: 22/30 + 1/6 = 23/36 ( Is it still easy sphair Laugh ? )
SR: 5/6 + 2/6 = 7/12


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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:23 am

Tenez wrote:
Honestly Rao is playing too well. He woudl have beaten Murray tonight easily. Murray had trouble with Lopy's serve...imagine Rao's. Besides Rao is moving extremely well. The way he broke Blake again in that 3rd set was amazing for such a tall guy. Dodgy if you ask me!

Beaten Murray?. well. Murray won't have played against Raonic the way he did against Lopez. Lopez is a handicap on the backhand wing. He can't even hit 2 consecutive shots without making an error. Thats that first thing a tactical player will attcak. Players like Murray who play tactical game rather than going for glorious risky shot-making will easily take advantage of that, and thats what happened yesterday. A bit risky, but totally worth and pays off most of the times. 3 Tb sets, and the match in his pocket. Who cares about the fact that Lopez won 8 more points in total, had more BPs, and won more breaks etc. Murray won't worry about his own struggles against Lopez's serve or himself being broken many times. Tactical players don't care about any of those. As long as the tactic worked, he is all fine.

So I don't think Murray would have employed the same tactics against Rao.Against Raonic, he will have totally diffent ones. Lots of those slices, many drop-shots, long risk free rallys bh-2-bh.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:25 am

rotla where are the murray points?

I have ssen them. Very few smiley

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Post by Tenez Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:59 am

So I don't think Murray would have employed the same tactics against Rao.Against Raonic, he will have totally diffent ones. Lots of those slices, many drop-shots, long risk free rallys bh-2-bh.

Raonic's shots on those relatively fast HCs are simply too fast to slice and drop shot.

Rao has the game to blast Murray off court and I think he will just do that. The only thing that can beat Rao is Rao's nerve. I know I am not doing well on those predictictions cause there are a lot of players had I not watched but I saw Rao v Blake and he was pretty impressive. Murray willl suffer.

And didn't Rao beat Murray last time they played on clay?

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Post by Larry Ellison Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:04 am

Yes he did Tenez... but a Grand Slam is different to Masters. Murray's intensity will be different.

I think Murray will win, I'm 95% sure.

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