Australian Open 2013: Matches of the day : Day 12 25-Jan-2013

But it's very different than Wimbledon. He may win a set but I cannot see him through in such slow conditions. Even his best shots are returned. Conds simply don't suit him.

Tenez wrote:But it's very different than Wimbledon. He may win a set but I cannot see him through in such slow conditions. Even his best shots are returned. Conds simply don't suit him.

Aye, but if your Andy how much will the failed conversion on BP's affect him. Some of it can be in the mind. Especially with Murray more than most.

legendkillar wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:Scorewise we can already make up our minds. Fed just not win matches with his serve under constant pressure

o ye of little faith... tis not he who starts but finishes the race....

Tis very true. Look at Wimbledon. Murray romped the first set and in the 2nd couldn't convert the BP's and Federer pounced like a panther on the opportunity and the rest they say is history.

You can't compare this to Wimbledon indoors.

Murray set -1 with a Service winner. Fed needs to get his act fast.

gallery play wrote:Fed hasn't hit a single ace throughout this set...

He has....but they were just returned!

Tenez wrote:But it's very different than Wimbledon. He may win a set but I cannot see him through in such slow conditions. Even his best shots are returned. Conds simply don't suit him.

oh, Tenez said what i said first..how bizar.. not!

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:Scorewise we can already make up our minds. Fed just not win matches with his serve under constant pressure

o ye of little faith... tis not he who starts but finishes the race....

Tis very true. Look at Wimbledon. Murray romped the first set and in the 2nd couldn't convert the BP's and Federer pounced like a panther on the opportunity and the rest they say is history.

You can't compare this to Wimbledon indoors.

The match turner was that 2nd set which wasn't indoors.

You can't compare this to Wimbledon indoors.

Indoors? To much fuss is made out of this indoors thing I believe. The first 2 sets were played outdoors. Still the indoor doesn't make such a vital change as to clearly start favouring one. It wasn't even a windy day.

Now a DF... Fed hasn't had a single comfortable game till now.

legendkillar wrote:

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:Scorewise we can already make up our minds. Fed just not win matches with his serve under constant pressure

o ye of little faith... tis not he who starts but finishes the race....

Tis very true. Look at Wimbledon. Murray romped the first set and in the 2nd couldn't convert the BP's and Federer pounced like a panther on the opportunity and the rest they say is history.

You can't compare this to Wimbledon indoors.

The match turner was that 2nd set which wasn't indoors.

euhm, as a fed fan i would like to confirm that but Fed was under pressure in that second set too. The break at the end of that set came out of nowhere (a typical 5 minutes of brilliance of Fed at the very right time). The real turnaround came when the roof closed.

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

gallery play wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:

gallery play wrote:Scorewise we can already make up our minds. Fed just not win matches with his serve under constant pressure

o ye of little faith... tis not he who starts but finishes the race....

Tis very true. Look at Wimbledon. Murray romped the first set and in the 2nd couldn't convert the BP's and Federer pounced like a panther on the opportunity and the rest they say is history.

You can't compare this to Wimbledon indoors.

The match turner was that 2nd set which wasn't indoors.

euhm, as a fed fan i would like to confirm that but Fed was under pressure in that second set too. The break at the end of that set came out of nowhere (a typical 5 minutes of brilliance of Fed at the very right time). The real turnaround came when the roof closed.

As a Murray fan the 2nd set being lost turned the match entirely. Similar to the missed FH against Nadal in the 2nd on BP in semi the year before. If Murray could've taken the 2nd set to a TB the match might have ended differently. To me the roof had little impact in momentum shift in that match. Federer producing 2 magic points from nowehere turned that match.

gallery play wrote:
euhm, as a fed fan i would like to confirm that but Fed was under pressure in that second set too. The break at the end of that set came out of nowhere (a typical 5 minutes of brilliance of Fed at the very right time). The real turnaround came when the roof closed.

But turnaround was not because of the roof.

Commentator saying that Murray could pull a lorry with those legs

And Fed fires his first ace! Preceded by a gorgeous BHDTL

Fed´s game is limited from his back. If Murray is not able to win it, then he is hopeless mental case. I must laugh at Andy´s dodgedness when he wants to retrieve shots which are definitely lost.

noleisthebest wrote:And Fed fires his first ace! Preceded by a gorgeous BHDTL

His BH DTL has to very good today. Murray is constantly keeping the plug there.

To me it looks like Fed's playing in his 3rd gear.

paulcz wrote:Fed´s game is limited from his back. If Murray is not able to win it, then he is hopeless mental case. I must laugh at Andy´s dodgedness when he wants to retrieve shots which are definitely lost.

Yes, that's why he's where he is. Always been like that, still not relaxed with himself, still has stg to prove...

Does Murray carry 4pound weights around his ankles during his matches, too or just during his training?

Wilander saying that Murray has better hands than Federer "softer hands".

noleisthebest wrote:Does Murray carry 4pound weights around his ankles during his matches, too or just during his training?

I honestly don't know. Given his right ankle only has one ligament left, I would be surprised if he would risk applying more weight. When his career finishes I would be amazed if he could walk without problems as I understand it many former NBA pro's who wore ankle supports weaken their ankles to the point they were like glass and injured with ease.

Tenez wrote:Wilander saying that Murray has better hands than Federer "softer hands".

Not good enough to lift 17 slam tropheys, though

Wow, Murray actually wins a point by moving to the net and volleying.....

Tenez wrote:Wilander saying that Murray has better hands than Federer "softer hands".

Mats tasted some good wine together with a blond

now those were good hands in that point form Murray, I have to admit!

I think Fed hasn't won the first point on any of his service games till now. Is it?

Murray has to keep his focus 100% all the time if he wants to win this. Formidable task.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:I think Fed hasn't won the first point on any of his service games till now. Is it?

didn't notice. I'm expecting to Murray to start easing off slowly from now on.

Murray has been serving fantastic.

Murray 71% on first serves in and 69% won on it.

Winners:

Murray: 27
Fed: 13

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Murray has been serving fantastic.

yes, his service motion is technically very compact, the toss is low and he leans into it with ease. Fed needs to turn his forehand on a bit at this stage of the match.
Murray needs to start feeling the pressure. Nole is very good at doing that to him.

noleisthebest wrote:Murray has to keep his focus 100% all the time if he wants to win this. Formidable task.

Actually, Murray needs to keep this match where it is now, it's Fed who needs to do something special. Of course he's more able to do something special than anybody else but he needs a fit and loose body, and that's the uncertain part.

The thing is all those good hands and great shots can be done because of those amazing pair of wheels, huge upper boody and absurd guns.

I find it annoying that commentators do not talk about it as the main reason why a guy like Murray can look so good. He is everywhere with time to spare.

Tenez wrote:The thing is all those good hands and great shots can be done because of those amazing pair of wheels, huge upper boody and absurd guns.

I find it annoying that commentators do not talk about it as the main reason why a guy like Murray can look so good. He is everywhere with time to spare.

Absolutely.

So now despite all his power, speed and "soft hands"...let see whether Murray can keep his cool when serving to stay in the set. The mind is going to be tested there. Expect very hard first serves.

Tenez wrote:So now despite all his power, speed and "soft hands"...let see whether Murray can keep his cool when serving to stay in the set. The mind is going to be tested there. Expect very hard first serves.

Indeed. It's ok having the power and speed, but without a ice cold driver in his brain it is of no use.

Fed should've nailed that point instead of letting Murray in

Fed had chances that game, Murray was nervous indeed and played passive. I think he can't afford that if it gets to a TB

Awesome volley from Fed!

Finally a luv game for Fed... I think the first of the match for him.

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Winners:

Murray: 27
Fed: 13

Yes but winners include aces and unreturned serves....so...it helps.

Tenez wrote:

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Winners:

Murray: 27
Fed: 13

Yes but winners include aces and unreturned serves....so...it helps.

I understand that, but even then Murray has hit more Ground stroke winners.

legendkillar wrote:

Tenez wrote:So now despite all his power, speed and "soft hands"...let see whether Murray can keep his cool when serving to stay in the set. The mind is going to be tested there. Expect very hard first serves.

Indeed. It's ok having the power and speed, but without a ice cold driver in his brain it is of no use.

Exactly

Love seeing Fed fly forward and pummel that ball

How many TIMEEEESSSSSS

I'll surely die from caffein poisoning Either that or from a tie-break heart failure....

What A point!
that backhand should be framed and displayed in a museum!!!!!

Ohh boy that was close...

noleisthebest wrote:I'll surely die from caffein poisoning Either that or from a tie-break heart failure....

LOL!!! nitb