Aus Open Day 7

Nadal has found a second breath...

That happens when your opponent loses his edge.

bogbrush wrote:

Slippy wrote:I reckon I’ve probably heard of every man in the top 200 or so and would recognise most of them. However, I’ve never heard of Kontaveit before reading this article and she’s seeded (and I see knocked out Ostapenko). 

Dimitrov v Kyrgios is the standout match by some way. Kyrgios should win but the pressure on him will be immense.

But. but..... it’s equally valid and well worth equal pay.

The smarter girls know what really makes you a star in the game.i bet Genie Bouchard out-earns those unknown people some have said are top 4 players.

Yeah, there’s arguments either way on equal pay. I just get annoyed when organisations like the BBC pretend as though there’s no reason at all why women playing on their own tour could, perfectly fairly, receive less prize money. My favourite was the female darts player complaining they weren’t paid enough - at a sport where men theoretically have very little advantage and women can play on the men’s tour. 

Not sure about Bouchard though. I’m sure she’s making a lot more than someone like Svitolina. I’m guessing though her endorsements would sky rocket even higher though if she ever won a match! Seems to me she’s had some sort of mental issue with her game rather than taking a relaxed approach because she’s quids in anyway.

6 BPs wasted in that 4th set alone.

Schwartzman is 26 in the world for a reason - he’s a fantastic player but he was redlining early on and it was always going to be hard to maintain that level against Nadal. I will say now though, having now watched both of them play, that Nadal has absolutely no chance against Federer in a night match. He’d be relying on Fed to have a total shocker. If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.

NADAL TENNIS ACADEMY....who wants to learn such a sweaty and ugly tennis. Do they provide the magic potions which go with this kind of games?

Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.

I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.

Just watched a bit of Edmnd....He has not got the legs to play Nadal.

Slippy wrote:

bogbrush wrote:

Slippy wrote:I reckon I’ve probably heard of every man in the top 200 or so and would recognise most of them. However, I’ve never heard of Kontaveit before reading this article and she’s seeded (and I see knocked out Ostapenko). 

Dimitrov v Kyrgios is the standout match by some way. Kyrgios should win but the pressure on him will be immense.

But. but..... it’s equally valid and well worth equal pay.

The smarter girls know what really makes you a star in the game.i bet Genie Bouchard out-earns those unknown people some have said are top 4 players.

Yeah, there’s arguments either way on equal pay. I just get annoyed when organisations like the BBC pretend as though there’s no reason at all why women playing on their own tour could, perfectly fairly, receive less prize money. My favourite was the female darts player complaining they weren’t paid enough - at a sport where men theoretically have very little advantage and women can play on the men’s tour. 

Not sure about Bouchard though. I’m sure she’s making a lot more than someone like Svitolina. I’m guessing though her endorsements would sky rocket even higher though if she ever won a match! Seems to me she’s had some sort of mental issue with her game rather than taking a relaxed approach because she’s quids in anyway.

I was being sarcastic, I don’t see a single argument to justify equal pay.

It may have come to attention of the forum that I like a good argument now and then and this is an easy one.

It’s simply this: there are two types of tournament

- the open one where any human being capable of the highest standard of play is eligible. This is the premier tournament and should have the top pay. Anyone can apply to enter the pre-qualification process.
- a series of entry-restricted tournaments for those whose physical limitations prevent them from succeeding in the main event. These include wheelchair-confined people, the aged, juveniles, and women. These should certainly all receive equal pay at a lesser level than the main event.

I got the sarcasm . I mainly agree with you. Certainly don’t disagree to the extent I’m going to waste time arguing about it!

Good to see Fed playing in the day tomorrow. Winning the Australian should, at least to some extent, involve dealing with day time conditions.

Slippy wrote:Good to see Fed playing in the day tomorrow. Winning the Australian should, at least to some extent, involve dealing with day time conditions.

Why? The final is in the evening..

Dimi hit 29 DF's in the previous rounds..strange stat..

Nice first game here. 2 shotmakers, yet very different ones.

Com'n Nick!

Tenez wrote:

Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.

I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.

That's all theoretical nonsense. Every Federer fan wants Nick to beat NAdal. 

Kyrgios won his first match against Nadal, Djoko and Fed..
Do we have an underachiever here or what?

4-3 Dimi
Good match!

If Nick serves well, what can you do?

The thing with Nick is that he stops trying when he gets 30-0 or 40-15 behind. Quite comforting for the serving player

If it goes on like this, in 5 hours time we'll be looking at 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 20-20

Have to say, Dimi is not being outhit like he was bound to be.

Tie break. Nick has won 4 and lost none so far..


edit: and just did now

Based on this match there's no evidence that Kyrgios would beat Nadal or even Federer. His returns games are too flat.
Dimi wins most of the neutral rallies, his footwork is simply better. I guess Nadal would exploit Nick's static game. Dimi has it at least in him to turn it to a marathon again, against Nadal.

And Dimi gets the break in the second set. That was some louzy netplay by Nick. He's gliding down to the occasional irritation mode..

gallery play wrote:

Tenez wrote:

Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.

I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.

That's all theoretical nonsense. Every Federer fan wants Nick to beat NAdal. 

Yes cause what's most important is Nadal not winning more slams.

This is big boy hitting.

And of course Dimi chokes when he serves for the second set. Under pressure his first serve drops under the 190 k/ph range and his second transforms into an Aranxta Sanchez serve. 

Those guys can hit the ball but none have it in him to win the AO, not a chance.

Hmm, this looked to be heading to a familiar Kyrgios’ meltdown and comfortable defeat but, instead, he’s broken back and gone 6-5 up. New year, new Nick?

And Dimi chokes as usual while serving for the second set.

Dimitrov is impressing me. Very tough and amazing physicality.

As Pete says.......

Kyrgios has the wow factor but not often enough. Dimi is the more solid and complete player.

I think that Kygios will be a better match up v Nadal than Dimi. The advanatge of having Dimi is that he will tire Nadal for the final.

Not much anyone could have done with Kyrgios in that set. He surely can’t do that for two more sets?

Kyrgios mouvement is so bad.

Tenez wrote:I think that Kygios will be a better match up v Nadal than Dimi. The advanatge of having Dimi is that he will tire Nadal for the final.

That seems to be the case, but only for some parts. But he'll serve Nadal way too many free points. 

Both will lose to NAdal anyway. They just don't have it in him to beat Nadal over 5 sets. So i prefer Dimi, he'll at least keep on trying

Tenez wrote:Kyrgios mouvement is so bad.

Yes, can you imagine how that will be exploited by Nadal?

Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.

Kyrgios is hitting some FH's of the caliber that screwed Delpo's wrist..

DECIMA wrote:Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.

The jury is still out, but if i was you i would fancy a Kyrgios win

gallery play wrote:

DECIMA wrote:Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.

The jury is still out, but if i was you i would fancy a Kyrgios win

Yeah that’s how I see it at the moment too.

This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.

DECIMA wrote:This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.

Dimi's serve is shaky. He used to average around 200 km/ph, today he hardly hits 190 average.
His second serve is plain weak

gallery play wrote:

DECIMA wrote:This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.

Dimi's serve is shaky. He used to average around 200 km/ph, today he hardly hits 190 average.
His second serve is plain weak

Good point. And Kyrgios second serve is insane, he can take the game out of the returners hand completely.

Crowd's really getting in to this, Dimi might be in trouble..

Grigor's coach makes it clear: extend the rallies

Ramos bottling the language.

If Dimi plays like that he will get a chance...teh problem is when he will that chance he will F*** it up!

Yeah, if that was my son I’d have left by now and told him not to be such a tosser.

Unreal defence by Dimitrov. Just got enough back.

Holy crap what a miss, and at BP!!

YESSSSSSS!

Very glad for Dimi.

Surely a choke coming up now