Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 7

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:43 pm

Kurgios is gutless.
You've heard it here first. Winking

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:46 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:But this is a later round and he's just beaten a big server.
I think he can take Stan out as well (if Stan beats Goffin)
He might at that and take out the only serious challenge to Djokovic on his way to final. Kyrgios was less likely to take out Wawrinka.

I need to see a bit more of this new confident Stan on grass, but I don't think Stan is as dangerous in it as on clay or slower hard.
Fed and maybe Murray are bigger challenges for Nole, esp if he has a tiring SF.

I am pretty sure we may have the repeat final kine up from last year.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:47 pm

Thiem is actually a properly gutsy young player.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:49 pm

Ivo-Murray starting, perfect timing!

by Autumnleaf Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:52 pm

I remember Wawrinka from last year's QF match and he was tough. He is a very uncomfortable match-up for Novak, presumably on any surface, but I guess we will see. Big Grin

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:54 pm

Yes if I were to bet on someone to take Djoko out, it woudl be Stan, not Gasquet...as much as I like him.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:57 pm

Yes, I know media have been pumping that story, but Stan only beat Nole once properly (in AO)
He would have not beaten him in RG has Nole not been tired.

But they play have good matches now that Stan has fixed his FH.

Cilic is tougher for Nole on grass, but I've no idea who's in whose half of draw...

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:05 pm

luvsports! wrote:Castle isn't commentating on Gasquet. It's Inverdale and Fleming.

Inverdale back on BBC?
They all sound the same...

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:06 pm

It's clear that the Murray match was schedule with the sun position in mind.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:07 pm

Murray looking a bit weird atm...Ivo sending him bullets and not just in the form of serves.

Who says he's just a serving tree Winking

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:08 pm

Tenez wrote:It's clear that the Murray match was schedule with the sun position in mind.

Yes, but nit helping him much...what's the matter with his FH?

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:10 pm

Karlovic should not approach the net with those slices...Murray passes him with ease every time!

Just wasted a potential break point like that.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:12 pm

Murray passing well....and he has to.

by Autumnleaf Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:14 pm

Matches vs. guys like Karlovic must be so frustrating. There's simply nothing anyone can do when he's found his rhythm on the serve.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:15 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Karlovic should not approach the net with those slices...Murray passes him with ease every time!

Just wasted a potential break point like that.

But they are not easy under pressure....but of course...that's where this modern string technology helps hugely. Before 2000 Karlo woudl have been unstoppable at Wimbledon and USO. I think he would have had a very good chance on clay too.

We are looking at the "greatest" player of all time......in every sense! Winking

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:16 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:Matches vs. guys like Karlovic must be so frustrating. There's simply nothing anyone can do when he's found his rhythm on the serve.

Yes but as frustrating as seeing the ball coming back v Nadal and Djoko? Not sure!

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:18 pm

Federer's latest on hawkeye:

"What I struggle with is I don't think it's 100 percent accurate. Let's say 99 percent, fine. It's still not 100 percent, in my opinion. I still see calls I don't quite understand.
But it's fine to have it... because you ... don't want to lose at Wimbledon because of one bad call or a missed call by someone. "What I don't understand is if we have Hawkeye, why do we keep playing in the nighttime when Hawkeye is not available anymore? That's where I disagree with supervisors or tournaments, that they push it too far every single time."

Didn't know it was unavailable in night matches...

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:23 pm

Yes...and in this interview he also mentions how dark it was in 2008 final. I think he is still very annoyed with it...and understandably so.

The BBCi player is messing up on my side.....is it my laptop or the beeb?

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:27 pm

Tenez wrote:Yes...and in this interview he also mentions how dark it was in 2008 final. I think he is still very annoyed with it...and understandably so.

The BBCi player is messing up on my side.....is it my laptop or the beeb?

It's the beeb.
It keeps turning itself off for me on the red button.
Watch it on the normal BBC channel.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:30 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Karlovic should not approach the net with those slices...Murray passes him with ease every time!

Just wasted a potential break point like that.
But they are not easy under pressure....but of course...that's where this modern string technology helps hugely. Before 2000 Karlo woudl have been unstoppable at Wimbledon and USO. I think he would have had a very good chance on clay too.

We are looking at the "greatest" player of all time......in every sense!

Are you sure?
Strange he had a relatively late start, being two years older than Fed.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:32 pm

What went through Murray's brain to be sending those loopy FHs right into Ivo's striking zone Doh

Mind you, that was a pathetic BH volley from Karlovic...

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:36 pm

If Ivo loses this set it he will only have himself to blame.

Looks like he isn't able to bend those knees...

This is looking like a women't match Laugh

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:41 pm

I quite like the pressure of big servers TBs. It's something I missed recently.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:42 pm

Well Murray took the set deservedly.

Can't wait for Fed-Agut, though...

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:42 pm

noleisthebest wrote:What went through Murray's brain to be sending those loopy FHs right into Ivo's striking zone

Mind you, that was a pathetic BH volley from Karlovic...

Murray won't be winning Wimbledon serving like that. Works v Karlo but won't work v DJoko.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:46 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:What went through Murray's brain to be sending those loopy FHs right into Ivo's striking zone

Mind you, that was a pathetic BH volley from Karlovic...
Murray won't be winning Wimbledon serving like that. Works v Karlo but won't work v DJoko.

Absolutely, I can't believe he won this set...more like Karlovic gifted it to him.

Unusually poor FH.
Very tense for obvious reasons, but more weaponless than ever.

He's reverting to trusting his BH only again I reckon.

What do you think?

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:49 pm

Well he did not make many mistakes really. I thought he played well...just served badly.

Karlo was unlucky on that volley. I guess he did not expect his shot back.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:06 pm

Yes, but he missed many volleys...too many.

Just does not look sharp with them today, serve is keeping him alive only, although Murray broke him...

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:07 pm

Time to have a look at Stan Goffin.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:21 pm

Tenez wrote:
Polly 81 wrote:Tenez, you've done it again! You need to pick between Djokovic and Anderson!

Thanks! I have had too much drink! I am just sobering!

BTW...it might not be clear but I picked Djoko.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:41 pm

Tenez wrote:
Tenez wrote:
Polly 81 wrote:Tenez, you've done it again! You need to pick between Djokovic and Anderson!

Thanks! I have had too much drink! I am just sobering!
BTW...it might not be clear but I picked Djoko.

Sober even under the influence of alcohol...amazing!

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:44 pm

noleisthebest wrote:

Sober even under the influence of alcohol...amazing!

Oh yeah!

Good match between Goff and Stan.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:45 pm

Some very gutsy play from Goffin!

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:47 pm

Nice to see Karlo with proper sponsor;s gear.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:50 pm

Do you think the ball bounces differently in this totally grass free patch around the middle of baseline as opposed along the greener side/corner parts?

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:59 pm

Oh yes it would bounce very differently.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:59 pm

stan living and dying by the sword here...one if the rare watchable SBH vs DBH matches, and courage pays off in the end!

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:59 pm

Great TB between Stand And David.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:00 pm

noleisthebest wrote:stan living and dying by the sword here...one if the rare watchable SBH vs DBH matches, and courage pays off in the end!

It was gutsy from David as well.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:03 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:stan living and dying by the sword here...one if the rare watchable SBH vs DBH matches, and courage pays off in the end!
It was gutsy from David as well.

It was...but that point in which he was passed turned it around.
Excellent tennis.

His returning could be better.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:05 pm

wow..Karlo takes his set.....coudl have been 2 sets to 1 for karlo had he not messed up all those big points in that 1st set TB.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:05 pm

Tenez wrote:Oh yes it would bounce very differently.

How differently, higher in the middle?

In week two when even the green grass loses its speed, would it just slow the ball down or bounce higher?

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:08 pm

Tenez wrote:wow..Karlo takes his set.....coudl have been 2 sets to 1 for karlo had he not messed up all those big points in that 1st set TB.

Murray's got to have his physical slump...although this was not that physical a match.
You can make money on him winning matches in 4 sets.

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:10 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Oh yes it would bounce very differently.

How differently, higher in the middle?

In week two when even the green grass loses its speed, would it just slow the ball down or bounce higher?

It woudl check in a bit more...but worse is that impossible to know how it woudl bounce differently....depending on whether it bumps into grass roots or not.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:10 pm

Funny how with Stan-Goffin you get nice tennis but it gets boring after a while where with Ivo-Murray boring tennis but plenty of thrill.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:13 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Oh yes it would bounce very differently.

How differently, higher in the middle?

In week two when even the green grass loses its speed, would it just slow the ball down or bounce higher?
It woudl check in a bit more...but worse is that impossible to know how it woudl bounce differently....depending on whether it bumps into grass roots or not.

So in theory you could send deep balls down the middle and make the opponent nervous?

by Tenez Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:21 pm

noleisthebest wrote: So in theory you could send deep balls down the middle and make the opponent nervous?

Certainly. It's not theory....that's what they try to do.

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:24 pm

One of these days I'm going to serve standing on a chair...just to see what it's like to be Ivo!

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:26 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote: So in theory you could send deep balls down the middle and make the opponent nervous?
Certainly. It's not theory....that's what they try to do.

I'll never forget Olympic final in Wimbledon, the baseline was full of holes, visible from half way up the stands...you could sow potatoes in those grooves, I am serious!!!

by noleisthebest Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:32 pm

I hope everyone saw that hawkeye robbery!

Poor Ivo....

Poor, poor Ivo.

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