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Re: Day 11 - Wimbledon

Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:30 pm

Interesting how Nole's struggling with Richie's 2nd serve...just aced him with it now!
Imagine if the 1st serve was working...must be the shoulder.
Serve is such a fascinating shot: so many things can go wrong, yet when one is relaxed, it feels the simplest thing on earth!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:30 pm

Yes I think Gasquet is suffering on his serve.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:31 pm

Federer woudl be so much more deadly if he was able to pull pacy BHs like Gasquet and Stan.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:33 pm

Djoko's 71% first serve av at Wimbledon.....it's only high cause again he drops his pace by 10% at least in his first serve. So it's a "safe first serve again!.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:35 pm

Tenez wrote:Federer woudl be so much more deadly if he was able to pull pacy BHs like Gasquet and Stan.
It's the technique, Richie (and Stan) have shorter follow-through and take it earlier I think.

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Re: Day 11 - Wimbledon

Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:45 pm

And here goes the 10 games of Gasquet with one set to spare.

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Re: Day 11 - Wimbledon

Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:46 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Federer woudl be so much more deadly if he was able to pull pacy BHs like Gasquet and Stan.
It's the technique, Richie (and Stan) have shorter follow-through and take it earlier I think.
No they don't take it earlier on average.....but they simply hit it harder. Fed tries to control it and cut down the UEs..hence more spinny.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:50 pm

Tenez wrote:And here goes the 10 games of Gasquet with one set to spare.
I was just going to say Winking

Imagine if Richie won that TB...and he could have so easily!!!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:54 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Federer woudl be so much more deadly if he was able to pull pacy BHs like Gasquet and Stan.
It's the technique, Richie (and Stan) have shorter follow-through and take it earlier I think.
No they don't take it earlier on average.....but they simply hit it harder. Fed tries to control it and cut down the UEs..hence more spinny.

From what I saw with Richie, it's his technique, he hits it more in front of himself, in a pushing away movement, not brushing upwards like Fed.

But despite that, Fed is quicker while striking it and has softer and more mobile wrists esp on his half-volleys.

To me his and Richie's are the top two.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:07 pm

Wow, didn't Nole turn on the heat after that overruled hawkeye call?
So he plays his best tennis when angry, interesting!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:08 pm

In terms of safe power, Stan is the better one...at least outside grass.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:09 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Wow, didn't Nole turn on the heat after that overruled hawkeye call?
So he plays his best tennis when angry, interesting!

No, he plays his best tennis when the pressure is off..when he is 2 sets to love up!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:12 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Wow, didn't Nole turn on the heat after that overruled hawkeye call?
So he plays his best tennis when angry, interesting!

No, he plays his best tennis when the pressure is off..when he is 2 sets to love up!
Yes, but in that particular situation it was pure anger. I won't translate what he was yelling out after that 1mm hawkeye overrule...

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:13 pm

Tenez wrote:In terms of safe power, Stan is the better one...at least outside grass.

I'd still take Fed's one..any day!
Closely followed by Richie's.

You?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:14 pm

yes why was he upset? Does he suspect HE was rigged?

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:14 pm

Would Richie have beaten Murray today?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:15 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:In terms of safe power, Stan is the better one...at least outside grass.

I'd still take Fed's one..any day!
Closely followed by Richie's.

You?

Well I'd take 17 slams v 2. But if I had the choice to pick between Fed and Stan's powerful BH, I'd take Stan. Now if that meant losing the quick hands of Federer in the process, I'd stay with Fed's BH.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:17 pm

Tenez wrote:yes why was he upset? Does he suspect HE was rigged?

I think so. Pretty strong language.

He also kind of had enough of Richie and wanted to show him who's the boss.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:18 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:In terms of safe power, Stan is the better one...at least outside grass.

I'd still take Fed's one..any day!
Closely followed by Richie's.

You?

Well I'd take 17 slams v 2. But if I had the choice to pick between Fed and Stan's powerful BH, I'd take Stan. Now if that meant losing the quick hands of Federer in the process, I'd stay with Fed's BH.

Well, in essence, it's the choice of being a ball player or a ball basher.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:19 pm

Going to watch les Blues in Davis Cup at Queens next week?

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Wow, what a super classic S&V point from
Gasquet!
On Nole's serve!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:22 pm

Actually, Richie has a nice combination of both pace and feel on his BH.
Not a bad compromise at all!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:25 pm

I could've sworn that serve from Gasquet was in, yet the hawkeye showed it 2mm out...looks like the organisers are un a hurry for the main show...

Still, I enjoyed this match, Richie's put himself back on the map!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:26 pm

And I am glad he proved most including Henman wrong!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:32 pm

noleisthebest wrote:.., in essence,  it's the choice of being a ball player or a ball basher.
Bashing the ball with a SHBH is pure talent. Nothing else.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:33 pm

Novak through in straight-forward style.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:35 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I could've sworn that serve from Gasquet was in, yet the hawkeye showed it 2mm out...looks like the organisers are un a hurry for the main show...

Still, I enjoyed this match, Richie's put himself back on the map!
Well we know HE is not 100% correct.....we have yet to prove it is being manipulated.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:02 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:.., in essence,  it's the choice of being a ball player or a ball basher.
Bashing the ball with a SHBH is pure talent. Nothing else.

True, but it's his gutsiness that won him everything.
Verdasco's another one with a great powerful shot (FH),but hasn't git much to show for it...

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:04 pm

Funny what emotions can do to you....Winking

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:11 pm

Oh noooo, the pre-match Murray hype overdrive Angry
If someone who knew nothing about was listening, he'd think Murray's at least as good as Fed .

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:19 pm

Murray returns all the serves! Impressive!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:21 pm

Tenez wrote:Murray returns all the serves! Impressive!
That would be the easy bit for him.
Let's see how he serves.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:23 pm

I liked that swatted FH from Fed!
We need more of those!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:24 pm

No bothced overheads from Federer...he even slices them in!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:25 pm

Weather in Wimbledon has been fantastic this year!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:29 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Weather in Wimbledon has been fantastic this year!
Yes..quite breezy though.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:30 pm

I can see now why Fed is having to spin his FH...the flat ones just cam't control all that muscled spin coming from Murray's racquet.

Looks weird. Or are those bad bounces on bald grass patches that are disturbing his timing?

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:32 pm

What a volley...and the whole point!!!!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:32 pm

What a point!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:33 pm

but 3 UEs from federer...he coudl have won that game easily.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:35 pm

Tenez wrote:but 3 UEs from federer...he coudl have won that game easily.

Yes, all on the FH!
Bad bounces?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:36 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:but 3 UEs from federer...he coudl have won that game easily.

Yes, all on the FH!
Bad bounces?
Don't think so....wind ...or simply over aggressive.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:38 pm

It doesn't look windy on TV, quite the opposite.

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:40 pm

I can't stand all this wheezing and grunting...so unmanly.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:41 pm

It's really bizarre to see a huge body like Murray move as well....sheer power.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:43 pm

Fed's serve is amazing today!

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:44 pm

Tenez wrote:It's really bizarre to see a huge body like Murray move as well....sheer power.

Yes...but it's not nice to look at, so much effort.
Just looks plain stupid to see a tennis player sprint headlong from corner to corner.
He is worse than Nadal.

I actually really like Nadal's footwork, the only natural part of his game.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:50 pm

Murray has now more power than Fed on teh FH...Impressive.



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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:53 pm

What a BH pass from Federer! tennisball

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Post by ... on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:54 pm

And Maestro schools the apprentice 1:0! Bubbly

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