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Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:05 pm

With Joker of course.

Garbine Muguruza (ESP) [20]
v
Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [13]

Serena Williams (USA) [10]
v
Maria Sharapova (RUS) [20]

Jamie Murray (GBR) [13]
John Peers (AUS) [13]
v
Jonathan Erlich (ISR) (20)
Philipp Petzschner (GER)

Rohan Bopanna (IND) [13]
Florin Mergea (ROU) [13]
v
Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) [20]
Horia Tecau (ROU) [20]

No idea who some of those double players are.

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Post by Polly 81 on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:02 am

Radwanska
Serena (Joker)
Murray/Peers
Bopanna/Mergea

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:16 am

1. Radwanska 
2. Sharapova (JOKER)
3. Murray/Peers
4. Rojer/Tecau

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Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 10

Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:36 am

I haven't seen much of Murray (except against Karlovic, and was not impressed. His FH was loopy and toothless.)

How has he been playing?

Can't wait for the semis tomorrow!

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:45 am

Interesting that Nole mentioned Richie's fitness as the only thing he improved compared to last 2-3 years.
I didn't notice as he still looks his unathletic old self... but he must have done .
Maybe that was the "belief" that kept him in the battle in the fifth set last night.
Good on him!

Anyone remembers that epic Stan-Richie 5 setter in RG a few years ago? That was such a heartbreaker he lost after being two sets up. One of the best matches that year.



I didn't see the "Nole screaming at ballgirl" incident, but it seems that British media are rearing their ugly head again.

I wonder if they'll try anything against Federer...fortunately, he does not give them a lot to play with.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:44 am

noleisthebest wrote:I haven't seen much of Murray (except against Karlovic, and was not impressed. His FH was loopy and toothless.)

How has he been playing?

Can't wait for the semis tomorrow!
But as usual, the FH is not there to score points nowadays but to keep rallying and force rallying....hence the loop, coupled with a powerful CC BH, Federer is going to cover lots of ground. Scoring points is tough enough but scoring points while being worried about saving energy doesn't make the task easier.

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:47 am

But in Murray's case, his best tennis is when he muscles rather than loops his FH.
He's been playing like that for a few years now.

Maybe he didn't need it so far...pretty easy draw.


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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:50 am

I must say, it would be horrible for someone with such poor serve like Murray to beat Federer.
I don't even want to think about it!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:51 am

noleisthebest wrote:
I didn't see the "Nole screaming at ballgirl" incident, but it seems that British media are rearing their ugly head again.
It's actually quite telling the way he behaved under pressure...again. I think the media are right to point it out. Especially since he has always been keen to show that he was cool flairplay and relax......easy to build an image when things are fine....but when it gets tougher, the real nature comes back. At least Murray is not pretending.




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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:57 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
I didn't see the "Nole screaming at ballgirl" incident, but it seems that British media are rearing their ugly head again.
It's actually quite telling the way he behaved under pressure...again. I think the media are right to point it out. Especially since he has always been keen to show that he was cool flairplay and relax......easy to build an image when things are fine....but when it gets tougher, the real nature comes back. At least Murray is not pretending.

Come on T!
Let's not kid ourselves here...


He said he yelled out at himself in frustration and the girl happened to be in the way...apologised, end of story, why bring it back in the press conference two days in a row?

Murray on the other hand, F-bombs, insults his box, the whole world understands what he says and papers are quiet...

I have no problem with letting out verbal frustration, only how media deal with it.
I read how Pascal Maria gave Pospisil time violation yesterday...did Murray get any?

Then the patetic hawkeye abuse against Karlovic...you may defend it as much as you like, not me.

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Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 10

Post by Autumnleaf on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:15 am

Garbine Muguruza (ESP) [20]
Serena Williams (USA) [10] - joker

Jamie Murray (GBR) [13]
John Peers (AUS) [13]

Rohan Bopanna (IND) [13]
Florin Mergea (ROU) [13]


Don't know what happened in the Djokovic incident exactly, but if it's true what the papers wrote he did scream at the girl for the towel because she didn't bring it quick enough for his taste. He seems to be the person who gets angry when frustrated, see racket smashes in RG final and also some other place this year already (Doha?). This while comfortably being No. 1, quite surprising, I'd expect him to be more relaxed.


Murray also gets angry and screams, but he doesn't seem as intimidating, might be a matter of looks. He looks more ridiculous than scary imho. 


Agree that the time violation was somewhat partial, though Pospisil did marginally go over the limit more so than Murray and it IS a time violation and can be punished at umpire's discretion as the players know. It's not like Pospisil did nothing wrong. 


Hawkeye is a bit different as the rules are clear in that you are not allowed to challenge after playing the ball. Wawrinka e.g. did not challenge on a ball that went wide in the QF because he had played it. So this is an error in judgement by the umpire imho, similar to the one in the USO 09 final.


Don't think umpires will pull something like the SF though. Likewise I'd be surprised if British press wrote something bad about Fed, he is a favourite in Britain as well.

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Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 10

Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:18 am

Have you watched it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkINSRpeSw

He clearly is shouting at her asking for the towel. But it's weird as it seems that even the BBC wants to make sure it is not spread all over youtube.

Yes, Murray is also under the influence of too much steroids and testosterone. he is a nasty piece but he does not pretend he is someone else much.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:20 am

Mug, serena (joker), erlich, tecau

AF: Rad (joker) williams, peers, bopanna

T'OT: aggie seena (joker) peers, bopanna

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Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 10

Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:22 am

Autumnleaf wrote:
Don't think umpires will pull something like the SF though. Likewise I'd be surprised if British press wrote something bad about Fed, he is a favourite in Britain as well.
It will be difficult to fault Fed but in subtle way like v karlo or Posp the tournament might want to push Murray over Federer.

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:22 am

Tenez wrote:Have you watched it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkINSRpeSw

He clearly is shouting at her asking for the towel. But it's weird as it seems that even the BBC wants to make sure it is not spread all over youtube.

Yes, Murray is also under the influence of too much steroids and testosterone. he is a nasty piece but he does not pretend he is someone else much.  
No...just saw it now, indeed that looks bad.
He is so tense, I don't remember him being this neurotic in the past. I think it's the pressure Boris puts him under.
He can't try and be someone he is not.

Still, media are clearly trying to do some damage, taking it to press conferences two days in a row.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:19 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Have you watched it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkINSRpeSw

He clearly is shouting at her asking for the towel. But it's weird as it seems that even the BBC wants to make sure it is not spread all over youtube.

Yes, Murray is also under the influence of too much steroids and testosterone. he is a nasty piece but he does not pretend he is someone else much.  
No...just saw it now, indeed that looks bad.
He is so tense, I don't remember him being this neurotic in the past. I think it's the pressure Boris puts him under.
He can't try and be someone he is not.

Still, media are clearly trying to do some damage, taking it to press conferences two days in a row.

As the title comes closer the fangirl in you slowly but surely wins the inner battle.
Like i knew it would Winking

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:26 pm

He, he...methinks you like to be right all the time.

No, not a fangirl, just freedom amd truth fighter Cool

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:30 pm

noleisthebest wrote:He, he...methinks you like to be right all the time.

No, not a fangirl, just freedom amd truth fighter Cool
Like to be or are right? Big Grin

It's the tendency of a forum i guess: have your say

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:37 pm

Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?

I admit I can't stand that kind of things, it's a terrible, ruthless world out there on the court and especially behind the close doors.

I am just trying to point them out.

Not that much will change, but it makes me feel better smiley

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:41 pm

In fact, I do believe that by talking and being vigilant things may change!

Maybe not as fast and as much as we'd like, but at least we keep them on their toes!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:54 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:02 pm

Corruption is everywhere but i find it hard to imagine how they arrange these things without leaking or making it too obvious. It's much easier to put something in someone's drink, fi Murray's opponant..

This ain't a perfect world but if you really want to see a conspiracy, you'll find one. You'll always find arguments to back up your prejudiced thoughts.
No one can disagree with that.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:06 pm

T, about your example: that is weak arbitration. That Ref probably felt the pressure of the 15.000 spectators. (which is a bad thing of course)
Dunno if he got instructions to do that.


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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:06 pm

The problem I have is, are certain players made aware they can abuse rules before their matches or are they just trying their luck...

I may be wrong but I have a feeling Murray has been given a very long leash and he knows it.

I saw Federer challenge silly calls in two tournaments (small ones) in 2013, once was I think in Bastaad (he lost that match anyway, played with terrible back pain) the other can't remember where but it was against Monfils.

It looked like he could not go wrong with challenges...in the first instance I don't think he was aware of it, against Monfils I think he was.

But they are just my observations...and I can't help noticing them.

Nadal is very sly, and with him all is done well before the match so he doesn't have to get his hands dirty...but we saw his true face when he threatened Bernardes....and all that followed.

I am not kidding myself that the world is just and all are equal on the tour, even players speak about it...just that fans seem to be so dismissive and thinking what lovely, whiter than white sport we have!

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Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:05 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

That was my hang up about it. He had 2 bites at the cherry to win that point!

Again who was in the seat? Garner!!

Who could forget US Open 2009 Final.

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:12 pm

Just saw the end of Aga-Muga...happy for Muga, nice, composed girl.
When asked who was going to win the second semi didn't go through the PR motions...just said - Serena, she is 25:1 against Sharapova...

Will be a good final on Saturday.

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:15 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

That was my hang up about it. He had 2 bites at the cherry to win that point!

Again who was in the seat? Garner!!

Who could forget US Open 2009 Final.

I could! Yikes
Was it Fed-Delpo?
What happened?

I know Garner was bad with Nole-Roddick once or twice.

He surely is "a player" among umpires...

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:17 pm

Actually, is anyone excited about ANOTHER Serena-Maria match....Dimi? Run

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Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:21 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

That was my hang up about it. He had 2 bites at the cherry to win that point!

Again who was in the seat? Garner!!

Who could forget US Open 2009 Final.

I could! Yikes
Was it Fed-Delpo?
What happened?

I know Garner was bad with Nole-Roddick once or twice.

He surely is "a player" among umpires...

It was indeed smiley

Delpo went wide on a shot. Both players walked back to the change of ends. Delpo right before passing Garner challenges and Garner allows him. Federer not impressed had a pop at Garner because of the timing. The ball was out, but again the time between the call and challenge was ridiculous. Must've been about 15 seconds.

There was the time Federer was playing Wawrinka at IW I think and he challenged his own serve after missing a half volley on the return and the umpire (can't think who it was) didn't allow it and Federer called for Lars the match referee.

I like Tenez was annoyed Garner allowed the challenge after Murray played the ball.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:44 pm

gallery play wrote:T, about your example: that is weak arbitration. That Ref probably felt the pressure of the 15.000 spectators. (which is a bad thing of course)
Dunno if he got instructions to do that.
GP, I have been watching Wimbledon or sport for too too long not to notice patterns. It doesn't go back to teh Murray/karlo match....you may remember Tim henman v Paul Haarhuis awful successive line calling. It's not poor referring, it's "professional" referring. They are there to give what the crowd wants. No different than doping but it's just another way of reaching the desired goals. Pospisil was also given time penalties at crush times....despite averaging 25s. Do you think the referee would have had the same attitude towards Murray? Even McEnroe and Henman were shocked.


And it's essentially because people don't think of it or don't suspect..that cheating is actually abused. The devil is in the detail.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:48 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

That was my hang up about it. He had 2 bites at the cherry to win that point!

Again who was in the seat? Garner!!

Who could forget US Open 2009 Final.
It was Garcia....a french referee whereas at the USO 09 final it was a different one...an american one.....can't remember his name.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:48 pm

Tenez did you even make your picks today?

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:50 pm

Also when Posp got his tv's he was over 25 seconds and the 2nd one he was over 33 seconds.
Murray should have got one too mind.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:53 pm

gallery play wrote:Corruption is everywhere but i find it hard to imagine how they arrange these things without leaking or making it too obvious. It's much easier to put something in someone's drink, fi Murray's opponant..

And surely the USO seeds draw for 10 years was very grotesque. When ESPN showed that the chances for top seeds not to have a player ranked higher than 60 or so in the first round was 1 in a million!

none of us suspected such a tournament like the USO would mess around the draws....yet they clearly did. proven, fact, red handed, like LA! That's why we need to keep conspiring....cause if we don't they certainly will.


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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:54 pm

luvsports! wrote:Tenez did you even make your picks today?
...oops I did not. ....

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:56 pm

With Joker of course.

Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [13] I know she lost but that is where my vote woudl have been. I like her.

Serena Williams (USA) [10] - Have not seen the score yet....nor have I seen any other result.

Jonathan Erlich (ISR) (20)
Philipp Petzschner (GER)

Rohan Bopanna (IND) [13] Joker
Florin Mergea (ROU) [13]

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Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:58 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Anyway, what did you make out of those 11 footfaults Ivo was given against Murray in 2012?
Or that amazingly convenient 2mm hawkeye challenge the other day?
I k now you are not asking me but the problem I have there is not so much the 2mm HE error (it seems) but the fact that Murray was allowed to challenge when clearly he tried to pass Karlo first. Again when Stan tried to do the same yesterday teh referee told him it was too late...and rightly so.

That was my hang up about it. He had 2 bites at the cherry to win that point!

Again who was in the seat? Garner!!

Who could forget US Open 2009 Final.
It was Garcia....a french referee whereas at the USO 09 final it was a different one...an american one.....can't remember his name.

Nah it was Garner in both.

Garcia did the match yesterday. smiley

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:01 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Nah it was Garner in both.

Garcia did the match yesterday. smiley
What do you mean in both? I thought you meant the Karlo/Murray match of yesterday and USO09.

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:05 pm

Now I remember...


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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:12 pm

ATP has gone too commercial unfortunately.
Full of beurocrats and mediocre ladderclimbers...

Would Fed be interested in steadying that ship once he retires?

I can't imagine him sitting at home staring at Mirka and the children all day...

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Post by ... on Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:42 pm

Order of play out for tomorrow!
Nole-Richie first on at 1PM:


Novak Djokovic (SRB) [1] v Richard Gasquet (FRA) [21]
                                     &
Andy Murray (GBR) [3] v Roger Federer (SUI)[2]


Je suis tres excited!!! Big Grin Somersault diva

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Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:11 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
Nah it was Garner in both.

Garcia did the match yesterday. smiley
What do you mean in both? I thought you meant the Karlo/Murray match of yesterday and USO09.

That's correct.

Is that what you were relating to?

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Re: Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 10

Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:14 pm

Poor Richie. No rest for the wicked!

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