Wimbledon Prediction Game: Day 2

Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) 33
v
Andy Murray (GBR) [3]

Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) 33
v
Rafael Nadal (ESP) [10]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [6]
v
Jeremy Chardy (FRA) 33

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [13]
v
Gilles Muller (LUX) 33

Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR)33
v
Kyle Edmund (GBR) 33


Elias Ymer (SWE)33
v
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) [23]


Luca Vanni (ITA)33
v
James Ward (GBR)33


Dustin Brown (GER)33
v
Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE)33

And don't forget to play the other game too....it's an easy one pick for the whole tournament. So far only SB and I have entered!!!!

Andy Murray (GBR) [3]

Rafael Nadal (ESP) [10] 10 points is a lot!

Jeremy Chardy (FRA) 33

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [13]

Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR)33
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) [23]


Luca Vanni (ITA)33, Lucky losers usually go far.

Dustin Brown (GER)33

Murray, Bellucci, chardy, muller, dolgo, Karlo, Ward, Brown

AF: murray nadal berd tsonga edmund karl ward dustin
TO'T: murray nadal birdbrain tsonga dolgo karl ward dustin

Murray
Nadal
Berdych
Muller
Dolgo
Karlovic
Ward
Brown

Murray
Bellucci
Berdych
Muller
Dolgopolov
Ymer
Ward
Brown

Andy Murray (GBR) [3] - good luck to Kukushkin
Rafael Nadal (ESP) [10] - good luck to Bellucci, don't believe he can win though
Tomas Berdych (CZE) [6]
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [13] 
Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR)33
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) [23]
James Ward (GBR)33
Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE)33

Stuff(y) Wimbledon!
I am watching Rublev-Gianessi on bet365...playing a challenger in Padova....on clay!

How is he playing?

He played well in the first set which he won easily.
In the second, struggling physically and that's where his footwork is letting him down.
Losing cheap points just because he hits the ball out of position, although he is on the ball, but doesn't do the little adjustment steps.

Still, very exciting to watch, so much fire.

oops, forgot to post. But i think none of the listed are finished

Murray
Nadal
Berdych
Muller
Dolgo
Ymer
Ward
Brown

1. Murray
2. Nadal
3. Chardy
4. Tsonga
5. Dolgopolov
6. Karlovic
7. Ward
8. Lu

Great to see relaxed, healthy Dolgo enjoying himself!

Quick hands, light feet...it doesn't get much better than that.

I have just seen the most blatant hawk-eye error...showing the wrong mark.
Fortunately, did not affect the score much.

Nadal-Bellucci...blasphemy on grass.

I simply can't believe the level of bashing.

Tennis is dead.
And buried.

I tell you I don't think I have ever seen such a slow Wimbledon.

balls are huge. Wait until grass is replaced by dust and cooler temps (less ball pressure) and it's going to be a mud fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZb4DrC78-A

They were not hitting as hard but the ball was travelling as fast if not faster. It even looks to me visibly smaller.

Yes...but it really is the spin they can all now hit it with, too...it's baaaad!

Nadal makes it look worse than clay, and that's on fresh grass.
Dolgo with his fast flat hitting on the other hand, made it look fantastic.

I dunno...it's so disappointing and upsetting.

I've got tickets for CC tomorrow, but unless there is a decent match on (which it doesn't seem there will be) , I may just sell both and just walk around the grounds.

noleisthebest wrote:Yes...but it really is the spin they can all now hit it with, too...it's baaaad!

Nadal makes it look worse than clay, and that's on fresh grass.
Dolgo with his fast flat hitting on the other hand, made it look fantastic.

I dunno...it's so disappointing and upsetting.

But to put spin, you need time. If the ball was pacier and skidding, they woudl not be able to put as much spin on the ball.

Tenez wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Yes...but it really is the spin they can all now hit it with, too...it's baaaad!

Nadal makes it look worse than clay, and that's on fresh grass.
Dolgo with his fast flat hitting on the other hand, made it look fantastic.

I dunno...it's so disappointing and upsetting.

But to put spin, you need time. If the ball was pacier and skidding, they woudl not be able to put as much spin on the ball.

Yes, which is why Nadal stands so far back.

I know the balls are horrible. They bounce like mad to start with. The ones I got from Pouille's coach are the official ones: big, heavy and dead.

Tenez wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZb4DrC78-A

They were not hitting as hard but the ball was travelling as fast if not faster. It even looks to me visibly smaller.

Plus the racquets were smaller.

It's exasperating to see professional super athletes in their youthful prime play with two hands, light 100"+ racquets...with big, high bouncing balls...
Is that all they've got to show for after hitting the ball 3 hours a day for the last 20-25 years of their lives?
Safely, as hard as they can time after time, is that what tennis has come down to?
And then they want more time between the points...

In a way, I feel sorry for them as they are ruining their bodies, not enjoying the play...most would like to change things, but can't.
The game has hit the brick wall, but what do the pink jacketed posers in royal box care about that...

We are in for a serious crisis in a few years.
No amount of hype will put bums on seats to watch tennis that is coming.

Thing is nitb. Tennis is more popular and more profitable than ever.

Thanks to Federer.
You watch what happens once he retires.

They're leeching off the past for now. It won't last. 

ETA: Just watching Coric - Stakh. Who'd pay money to watch Coric scramble around the court? Hopefully he'll lose.

Maybe but I think the fairweather fans love the retrieval era.

I don't think many are into retrieval tennis, more into winners.

Autumnleaf wrote:They're leeching off the past for now. I won't last. 

ETA: Just watching Coric - Stakh. Who'd pay money to watch Coric scramble around the court?

He's got the caramel eyes, shame about not being humble...

noleisthebest wrote:He's got the caramel eyes, shame about not being humble...

 He's pretty I guess in a boyish way, but it probably won't last into his manhood.

He breaks in the third. 

STAT OF THE DAY:

Fed v Dzumhur : 25 games, 133 points played in 1h07mn: 30s per point, 2mn38s per game on average

Nadal v Bellucci: 28 games, 166 points played in 2h10m therefore more than an extra hour for 3 more games. 4mn38s per game; 47s per point on average.

Refererence match
Brown v Lu: 4 sets, 12 more games than Rafa played in 3 less minutes than Rafa's game. 32s on average!!!


When will it stop

luvsports! wrote:Thing is nitb. Tennis is more popular and more profitable than ever.

Uhhh..not so sure. It doesn't take long for a sport to lose some popularity.

In the US, a big tennis market, tennis lost some serious momentum.

A couple of Djoko v Cilic finals and you see what happens.

Tenez wrote:STAT OF THE DAY:

Fed v Dzumhur : 25 games, 133 points played in 1h07mn: 30s per point, 2mn per game on average

Nadal v Bellucci: 28 games, 166 points played in 2h10m therefore more than an extra hour for 3 more games. 47s per point on average.

Referer
Brown v Lu: 4 sets, 12 less games than Rafa played in 3 less minutes than Rafa's game. 32s on average!!!


When will it stop

I reckon it may stop once Nadal retires...maybe.
BTW, nice stat job!

noleisthebest wrote:
BTW, nice stat job!

Yes though I got them wrong....edited now.

Tenez wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:
BTW, nice stat job!

Yes though I got them wrong....edited now.

For me, it was the length of rallies combined with how hard they were bashing the ball.
I am shocked Nadal can get away with it on basically day one of grass.
Mind you, Bellucci's variety is non-existant, he was a perfect opponent for Nadal.

Kukushkin from 5-3 down, now 6-5 and serving for the set! Insane, high risk shot making!

From 30-0, Kuk broken  . Tiebreak.

Murray at its pushing best!