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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction game day 15 Men's FINAL

Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:18 pm

Stan has the momentum. HAS TO BREAK NOW!

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:21 pm

How you can say Stan is like Berd nitb, is beyond me!

3 insane winners from Stan on such low % shots. Blinkers.

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Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:21 pm

This is the greatest rivalry in tennis for me Bubbly

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Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:28 pm

Oh myyy effing lord SHOT OF THE MATCH

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:30 pm

Stan has to serve for the set. How much does he want this?

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:35 pm

Unreal tennis from Stan. Could this have a happy ending against all odds? Dare we dream?

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:36 pm

summerblues wrote:Unreal tennis from Stan.  Could this have a happy ending against all odds?  Dare we dream?

Don't say it SB! Please!!!

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Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:39 pm

Well, that game was just what Novak needed. Stan must keep his aggression on his serves.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:48 pm

That was poor from Stan to start the set.

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:57 pm

Huge game here. Every game is huge!

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:05 pm

Biiigg tennis from Novak. Sving 2 bp's and then holding. 
Will that get him going?

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:09 pm

0-40. This could be the end for Stan.

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:12 pm

WHAT A HOLD!

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:19 pm

Will Stan choke now? It is his to take.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:25 pm

Yes yes yes yes yes he did it!!!!!!


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Post by DECIMA on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:28 pm

ALEZZZZ

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:30 pm

I LOVE TENNIS! I LOVE STAN THE MAN!

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:32 pm

What a shame.
Really sad for Nole.

Didn't watch after second set, only the very last game now.
He was completely and utterly dead both in the legs and arms.

Despite the brainwashing "he is the fittest" propaganda, he is only human.

At least he thrashed Nadal...Winking

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:32 pm

luvsports! wrote:I LOVE TENNIS!
One of the most encouraging results in a long time.

Here's to more like this one Bubbly

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:35 pm

So, we did get our ABN wishes this time around!

And we have a SHBH RG champ too!!!

Just unreal. With a little luck, Nole will never win FO now.

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Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:37 pm

Win or lose Novak still has class at the end. A great match between 2 amazing players. Sad for Nitb Sad

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:40 pm

Feel sorry for you, Nitb. I think i'm as passionate viewer as you so i can only say: i know how it feels

Damn, i even feel sorry for Nole now i see his tears.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:41 pm

But holy cow! What a performance from Stan!!!

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:41 pm

Commiserations Novak and a wonderful ovation from the crowd. Deserved.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:46 pm

That BH down the line which led to the final break is probably the best tennis shot ever hit (given the circumstances).

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:56 pm

Of course I am happy fir Stan, he must have played a great match.

A nice, humble guy.


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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:57 pm

I thought Stan started the match ok but not great.  But as the match progressed he was becoming more and more comfortable and hitting better and better.  From the third set on, it was all one way traffic.

Still, I half expected him to buckle under pressure as he was serving for the match.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:06 pm

Stan... you beauty... Somersault Somersault Somersault you truly saved tennis. It was for too long that percentage play based on fitness was winning. It was just no longer a game of talent and skill and shots but just keep the ball in play till an error ocurres.  Its time to show that risk shot maker can win slams.. and how.  

What a player Stan ' the man' is.  Magic

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:19 pm

gallery play wrote:That BH down the line which led to the final break is probably the best tennis shot ever hit (given the circumstances).

It was great. But I've not lost the memory of the one Fed hit the the 4th set TB at wimbledon 2008 finals to save the MP. It was maybe a bit better for me... considering how much spin and angle Nadal can generate with the left hand.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:20 pm

Oh...NOOOOOO!!! I lost in the prediction game!!!! Sad Sad Sad headhurts Wah Wah Wah Wah ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

So glad for Stan...It amazing!!!!! Feel sorry for Djoko somehow as he certainly deserves a FO but it's a great day for tennis! and that's what matters!

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:21 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
gallery play wrote:That BH down the line which led to the final break is probably the best tennis shot ever hit (given the circumstances).

It was great. But I've not lost the memory of the one Fed hit the the 4th set TB at wimbledon 2008 finals to save the MP. It was maybe a bit better for me... considering how much spin and angle Nadal can generate with the left hand.

Yes and to save championship point!

BUT WHO CARES ABOUT THAT NOW, STAN THE MAN IS A LEGEND!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:22 pm

AceofDeath wrote:Win or lose Novak still has class at the end. A great match between 2 amazing players. Sad for Nitb Sad
Agreed! Djoko lost with class and that is very important!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:24 pm

I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:30 pm

luvsports! wrote:Commiserations Novak and a wonderful ovation from the crowd. Deserved.

Actually, that's where Nole needs to be schooled from nitb: no tears...just suck it up man and speak English next year.
That crowd doesn't deserve your heart.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:32 pm

Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking

Seriously: given his shotmaking ability he's a huge underachiever. I'd say he's the best shotmaker around.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:36 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Commiserations Novak and a wonderful ovation from the crowd. Deserved.

Actually, that's where Nole needs to be schooled from nitb: no tears...just suck it up man and speak English next year.
That crowd doesn't deserve your heart.
Nole actually got more support than Stan. Which is strange because almost every rally lived and died on Stan's racket. He made the match today.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:37 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
gallery play wrote:That BH down the line which led to the final break is probably the best tennis shot ever hit (given the circumstances).

It was great. But I've not lost the memory of the one Fed hit the the 4th set TB at wimbledon 2008 finals to save the MP. It was maybe a bit better for me... considering how much spin and angle Nadal can generate with the left hand.
But that shot didn't led Fed anywhere. It didn't matter after all.
That's a big difference with Stan's shot

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:41 pm

Djokovic- Wawrinka
Winners: 30-59
Unforced errors: 41-45


Truly amazing to double Djoko's winners and equal djoko's ue's

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:56 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking

Seriously: given his shotmaking ability he's a huge underachiever. I'd say he's the best shotmaker around.
Tennis is bit more than just shot-making. Stan often lacks belief and focus in matches.  And its the same playing just about anyone on tour, not just top rankers. He has lost a lot of matches from winning position just because of nerves. He still hasn't reached where someone like Fed/Nadal/Djokovic are when it comes to mental strength. But so glad he has managed to do it on a few occasions.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:58 pm

gallery play wrote:Djokovic- Wawrinka
Winners: 30-59
Unforced errors: 41-45


Truly amazing to double Djoko's winners and equal djoko's ue's
This says Stan has 60 winners to Djo's 30.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day20/1701ms.html?promo=sumscores

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:18 pm

Today showed he's anything but mentally weak. I'd say it's his big frame which cost him many matches. He usually loses the long matches. Take a look at this:

AO 2015  Djoko 6-7(1), 6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 0-6
USO 2014 Nishi 6-3, 5-7, 6-7(7), 7-6(5), 4-6
Wimbledon 2014  Federer L 6-3, 6-7(5), 4-6, 4-6
USo 2013 Djoko  6-2, 6-7(4), 6-3, 3-6, 4-6
AO 2013 Djoko 6-1, 5-7, 4-6, 7-6(5), 10-12
Wimbledon 2012 Melzer 6-3, 6-7(2), 6-2, 4-6, 6-8
RG 2012 Tsonga 4-6, 6-7(6), 6-3, 6-3, 4-6
USO 2011 YOung 6-7(7), 6-3, 6-2, 3-6, 6-7(1)
USO 2010 Youznhy 6-3, 6-7(7), 6-3, 3-6, 3-6
Wimbledon 2010 Istomin 7-6(5), 1-6, 6-2, 6-7(4), 3-6

However, the same big frame helps him to hit a awful lot of winners..

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:35 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:He still hasn't reached where someone like Fed/Nadal/Djokovic are when it comes to mental strength.
He was clutch today. The hold from 0-40 was immense.

I was impressed with how he took the loss of the first set - no panic at all, just went about his business and as the match progressed was getting more and more solid with his shots.

He is the only SHBH in the current game that I can think of that is able to stay in the rallies with DHBHs.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:07 pm

AceofDeath wrote:This is the greatest rivalry in tennis for me Bubbly

I like it, too.
When Stan turns up, those matches are really good.

What upsets me is that Nole had not a single day's rest before the final. That was very unfair on him, and not the first time.
He was totally spent after the second set.

He'll recover in every way very quickly once adrenaline runs its mad course.

I'll keep that bottle of champers until he wins it. Winking

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gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking
I was never in doubt, but again, Djoko was quite tired and under par. Don't you think?

Seriously: given his shotmaking ability he's a huge underachiever. I'd say he's the best shotmaker around.
he has the best "modern" SHBH game on SLOW COURT. I agree. He is the only one who can hit through the slow pace from both sides. But I am pretty sure that Fed will beat him again soon when fit...regardless the surface cause Fed is still the best shot maker by far...when fit.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:19 pm

gallery play wrote:Djokovic- Wawrinka
Winners: 30-59
Unforced errors: 41-45


Truly amazing to double Djoko's winners and equal djoko's ue's
Yes for that very reason, Stan is really a great player.

I remember 4 or 5 years ago, Stan had a very close game v Fed and already then I saw Stan's genius. I had the feeling that if Stan had played anyone else he would have won. and Today he did confirm that.

You should read the thread I had with Paul..where I argued a year or 2 ago that Stan was a better player than Djoko. So this is not news to me.

My only problem with Stan is that he has not got those quick hands,.....but Nowadays no-one has as they are not really needed.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:24 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking

Seriously: given his shotmaking ability he's a huge underachiever. I'd say he's the best shotmaker around.
Tennis is bit more than just shot-making. Stan often lacks belief and focus in matches.  And its the same playing just about anyone on tour, not just top rankers. He has lost a lot of matches from winning position just because of nerves. He still hasn't reached where someone like Fed/Nadal/Djokovic are when it comes to mental strength. But so glad he has managed to do it on a few occasions.

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Yes but Rotla as I said many times, nerves for shot makers like Stan are not the same as nerves for those retrievers.

Stan for instance today had lots of pressure to cross the line when serving at 5/4 in the 4th....had he not Djoko woudl have probably won in 5. That's the huge difference between an attacker and a retriever.....on those slow surfaces.

Stan is as strong as one can get with such risky, powerful shots, using a SHBh, therefore with a smaller sweetspot.

Ask Nadal and Djoko to play one SHBH, and you will see their mental strength collapse!

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AceofDeath wrote:What upsets me is that Nole had not a single day's rest before the final. That was very unfair on him, and not the first time.
But he coudl not blast Murray of the court. He accepted those long rallies and chose to inflict Murray those long rallies as well to kill Murray in the 5th.

Djoko is now the one who thrives on those long rallies....so it is again only fair he pays the price for it over the distance.

To me that was actually pretty fair. Stan would not have played those 33 shots rallies with Murray. He may have lost earlier maybe but he would have lost fresher.

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Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking
I was never in doubt, but again, Djoko was quite tired and under par. Don't you think?

That's not what i would conclude. Let's say Stan had failed to serve it out, who would have won the fifth? You know Djoko would not have been too tired to win the fifth...

Stan's shots were overwhelming for Djoko, he was a spectator today. I think he'll blame himself for being too passive but he actually did what he did all year: playing steady, bringing back as much as possible but today it wasn't enough. A bit like RG semi 2011 actually.

We've seen in the past that if Djoko really tires, he'll play all or nothing. But today he chose till the very end to wait for Stan to miss. Stan didn't miss.

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Tenez wrote:
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Tenez wrote: But I am pretty sure that Fed will beat him again soon when fit...regardless the surface cause Fed is still the best shot maker by far...when fit.
Not anymore. Had he gone for the shots Stan did today, he would have produced 80 UE's

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:05 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I played tennis from 10am to 5pm...in scorching temps. Then had a couple of beers watching the last set and a half of that final in my club.
I am dead but will catch up later after a 3rd BBQ in 2 days!!!!

And did the part you saw finally convince you how great Stan is? Winking
I was never in doubt, but again, Djoko was quite tired and under par. Don't you think?

That's not what i would conclude. Let's say Stan had failed to serve it out, who would have won the fifth? You know Djoko would not have been too tired to win the fifth...

Stan's shots were overwhelming for Djoko, he was a spectator today. I think he'll blame himself for being too passive but he actually did what he did all year: playing steady, bringing back as much as possible but today it wasn't enough. A bit like RG semi 2011 actually.

We've seen in the past that if Djoko really tires, he'll play all or nothing. But today he chose till the very end to wait for Stan to miss. Stan didn't miss.
I agree that Djoko would have probably won in the 5th.....but he still looked tired in this last set and a half I saw. Really tired actually....and frankly not surprisingly. Stan's shots certainly contributed hugely in Djoko's burn out. But I think Nadal and Murray played their part too. How coudl it be otherwise?

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