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Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:54 am

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [50]
vs.Stan Wawrinka (SUI) [30]

Novak Djokovic (SRB) [30]
vs.Andy Murray (GBR) [60]

Women's Doubles - Semifinal
Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) [10]
Lucie Safarova (CZE) [7]
vs.Andrea Hlavackova (CZE) [20]
Lucie Hradecka (CZE)

Casey Dellacqua (AUS) [20]
Yaroslava Shvedova (KAZ)
vs.Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) (10)]
Elena Vesnina (RUS)


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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:55 am

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [50] Jocker

vs.Andy Murray (GBR) [60]

Women's Doubles - Semifinal
Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) [10]
Lucie Safarova (CZE) [7]


Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) (10)]
Elena Vesnina (RUS)

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:25 am

1. Stan 'the man' Wawrinka  (JOKER)
2. Andy Murray 
3. Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) [10]
Lucie Safarova (CZE) [7]


4. Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) (10)]
Elena Vesnina (RUS)

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by summerblues on Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:51 am

Wawrinka (joker)
Djokovic
Hlavackova/Hradecka (though I do not understand points system for this match)
Makarova/Vesnina

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:06 am

Djoko
Stan (joker)
Hlavackova/Hradecka
Makarova/Vesnina

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Post by Polly 81 on Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:53 am

Wawrinka (Joker)
Djokovic
Mattek-Sands/Safarova
Makarova/Vesnina

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:29 am

Wawrinka, Nole (joker), Makarova/Vesnina, Sands/Safarova

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:30 am

rotla, please don't forget to add points for up to today! smiley

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:43 am

Tsonga (joker), djoko, hladjklasdlkfsaljaova, dellacqua

HJ: Stan, Novak (joker) safarova, vesnina

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:50 am

AH: Tsonga (joker), djoko, hla/hra, del/shve

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:22 pm

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [50]
Andy Murray (GBR) [60] - joker

Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) [10]
Lucie Safarova (CZE) [7]

Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) (10)]
Elena Vesnina (RUS)

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:23 pm

Thta's the problem with Stan...he might win.....but not that good at handling pace. Easy when it's a weak Federer or Nadal but as soon as the ball is hit a bit harder the UEs are pouring thick.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:32 pm

Early break stan! What a bh!

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 13 Friday Semi Final

Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:34 pm

Stop your Wawrinka critisizm T!

He produces jawdropping shot after jawdropping shot. It's by far the most exiting player of the tour. Wilander said it too yesterday: the most exiting player since peak Federer

Who cares he has a weakness?

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Thumbs Up

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:44 pm

6' Stan outhitting the 6'2 Tsonga. Very impressive.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:48 pm

I feel so sorry for both players having to play with this awful ball.

Hopefully, now that Nadal is out of the picture we'll never have to see it again...

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:49 pm

First set Stan!

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:02 pm

gallery play wrote:
He produces jawdropping shot after jawdropping shot. It's by far the most exiting player of the tour. Wilander said it too yesterday: the most exiting player since peak Federer
Who cares he has a weakness?

Yes, Stan is gutsy and exciting, but nowhere near as exciting as Fed.
He is almost an exclusive baseliner.
The conditions suit him better, that's all.

Can you imagine him serving and volleying on clay?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:05 pm

gallery play wrote:Stop your Wawrinka critisizm T!

He produces jawdropping shot after jawdropping shot. It's by far the most exiting player of the tour. Wilander said it too yesterday: the most exiting player since peak Federer

Who cares he has a weakness?
Please, allow me a bit of patriotism. Whistle

let's be clear. He is my favourite player amongst the 4...except that I would want Tsonga to win a slam.

I still main that Stan can inject power but is usually not that good at handling it himself .

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:12 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:Stop your Wawrinka critisizm T!

He produces jawdropping shot after jawdropping shot. It's by far the most exiting player of the tour. Wilander said it too yesterday: the most exiting player since peak Federer

Who cares he has a weakness?
Please, allow me a bit of patriotism. Whistle

let's be clear. He is my favourite player amongst the 4...except that I would want Tsonga to win a slam.

I still main that Stan can inject power but is usually not that good at handling it himself .

I know, i would support a dutch fellow at any rate Winking

But look at Tsonga, take away his serve and what's left? He lost his appeal long time ago

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:16 pm

Tsonga is a funny player...once he gets going he's hard to stop, the only thing is - he is finding it hard to get going these days.

These balls are taking all he's got away from him.


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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:17 pm

Since Norman came along, Stan never hit this big. I've watched matches vs feds before (fo'11, aus '11 etc) and Stan never outhit feds. It was very even and the feds fh was lethal.

Even since '13 - Stan has leathered the ball and clearly has outhit Feds. So noticeable in their matches at MC '14, wimby '14 and O2.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:20 pm

Well, I chose who I wanted to win today and it looks like it's not going to happen.

@luvsports Wawrinka is a completely different player now, a transformation not unlike to Djokovic 2011.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:30 pm

Drug induced me thinks, though of a diffo concoction.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:32 pm

gallery play wrote:But look at Tsonga, take away his serve and what's left? He lost his appeal long time ago
Don't get me started on Tsonga. erm  He stands too far back and is worse than Stan in terms of handling pacy shots.

Believe it or not I am very shared on this match. I think Stan will have a better chance in the final.....except that the crowd can certainly play a huge role....hence Tsonga may actually have a better chance in the final.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:33 pm

Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:34 pm

luvsports! wrote:Since Norman came along, Stan never hit this big. I've watched matches vs feds before (fo'11, aus '11 etc) and Stan never outhit feds. It was very even and the feds fh was lethal.

Even since '13 - Stan has leathered the ball and clearly has outhit Feds. So noticeable in their matches at MC '14, wimby '14 and O2.
I am not that sure about that. I remember very close sets between those 2 before Norman...with Fed edging essentially in the mind.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:39 pm

luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.
Either he is clean or his doctors are not very good.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:41 pm

luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.

"was" indeed.

This is 21st century tennis, decade 2.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:42 pm

Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.
Either he is clean or his doctors are not very good.

Or it doesn't work with his style of play, just like with Tsonga and others.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:44 pm

Tsonga's got that rampant "Ali" look in his eyes! Laugh
Fasten your seat belts!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:44 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.
Either he is clean or his doctors are not very good.

Or it doesn't work with his style of play, just like with Tsonga and others.
Fed woudl have benefitted quite a bit from steroids as well as EPO.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:45 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...
Hmm, it seems it's still possible to make huge gains by going on a (different? better?) regime, see Wawrinka. There will be big differences in what kind of drugs players consume, some might not dare to take the more experimental stuff, while others might not care that much. (like during the beginning of epo, when it was considered dangerous)

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:47 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...
Hmm, it seems it's still possible to make huge gains by going on a (different? better?) regime, see Wawrinka. There will be big differences in what kind of drugs players consume, some might not dare to take the more experimental stuff, while others might not care that much. (like during the beginning of epo, when it was considered dangerous)
I know virtually nothing about drugs, but I know what a clean tennis player can do.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:49 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Show me a player in top 20 who is not on something and I'll show you a sexy 100 year old...

I thought most here were of the belief that feds was clean.
Either he is clean or his doctors are not very good.

Or it doesn't work with his style of play, just like with Tsonga and others.
Fed woudl have benefitted quite a bit from steroids as well as EPO.

Well he obviously has, but not as much as the others who rely on outlasting.
Just look at Cilic.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:49 pm

How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:50 pm

What's going on with Stan?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:51 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?
Because I play myself.

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5-0 in the TB. Sad

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:51 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?
Because I play myself.
The limit is one set.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:53 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Well he obviously has, but not as much as the others who rely on outlasting.
Just look at Cilic.
What is so obvious about it? he is more like fine china than provencal clay pot to me.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:54 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?
Because I play myself.

That isn't proof at all.

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Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:56 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?
Because I play myself.
Well, unless you are a world class player, that doesn't mean you know. Even then it's tough, because physical limits DO differ between human beings.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:57 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Well he obviously has, but not as much as the others who rely on outlasting.
Just look at Cilic.
What is so obvious about it? he is more like fine china than provencal clay pot to me.

I was not comparing depth of their game, nobody comes close to Fed there...just the short points style of playing.

Cilic also piled on muscle which made the difference in the weight of his shots.

With Fed...I suppose just the energy to last and compete in long rallies.
It's far too physical for him to be clean now even with all the talent.

Esp week in week out.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:58 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Autumnleaf wrote:How would you know if you don't know who plays clean and who does not and moreover suspect that everybody is on drugs?

Where is the limit for clean players?
Because I play myself.
Well, unless you are a world class player, that doesn't mean you know. Even then it's tough, because physical limits DO differ between human beings.

You don't have to be a world class player to know what's physically possible and what's not.
It's quite easy, in fact.


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Post by Autumnleaf on Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:00 pm

^^ I don't think so. What's the limit for 100 m? What's the limit for 10.000 or for climbing Alpe d'Huez?

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:02 pm

Waw can't stand the heat

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^^ thought that too.

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