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Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 9 1-June-2015

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:32 pm

gallery play wrote:I'm a bit dissapointed in Cilic. I expected him to win today.
I only saw the first game....and Ferrer was able to return his serve with lots of ease....and Bh to bh Ferrer was by far the more solid.....in those 5 points I saw!

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Post by luvsports! on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:33 pm

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Tenez wrote:LS can you see the difference in talent between Chardy and Murray? Without Murray's additional muscles, it woudl be 62 62 62 for Chardy!

Pal you don't need to convince me of that. I have been of that train of thought for years.
I know you have Winking. But I remember you asking once what coudl explain such different trajectory between those 2.

Even Murray great volleys and drop shots are a lot to do with his arm's strength.

Good memory. One in the litany of questions i've asked you over the years!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:39 pm

it must be so gutting for Chardy to see the way Murray went as they were of the same build when young.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:48 pm

Tenez wrote:it must be so gutting for Chardy to see the way Murray went as they were of the same build when young.
Yes, but Murray got so much support from LTA, almost a card blanche...and similar to Nadal, he got his head down and worked hard. And did all it took to get the "edge".

Talented people find it difficult to push themselves to and beyond their limits. Some simply don't want to. It's a big step into soulless land with no return...
Just look at Stakh...

Chardy may be gutted, but he sleeps well.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:07 pm

Is it just me or did I just hear Nadal get booed as he entered the court?

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:12 pm

So it's Murray-Ferrer. Whoever wins that will be spent in the SF.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:14 pm

Frankly I doubt the winner of Nadal Djoko will be any fresher.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:15 pm

So it's this Damien umpiring today....let's see how good he is.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:17 pm

Tenez wrote:Frankly I doubt the winner of Nadal Djoko will be any fresher.
The winner of that one will still be favourite.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:20 pm

Well. Sock's hope are cut very short!

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:20 pm

Wow, Nadal in his beastly super-spin mode...
May work today, but this is just his thin veneer facade.

A couple of long rallies from Nole and he'll start to panic.


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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:22 pm

yes..he hits very hard....but will he be able to keep it up?

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:22 pm

Tenez wrote:Well. Sock's hope are cut very short!

Let's hope he's a slow starter!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:25 pm

So Nadal has clearly extended his time between 1st and 2nd serve. As teh commentators were saying it took Nadal 4 minutes to serve after 2 let serves.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:32 pm

It's going to be tough for Djoko actually. I think he should win....but not guaranteed.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:35 pm

Tenez wrote:It's going to be tough for Djoko actually. I think he should win....but not guaranteed.
I can't wait to see it.

But I don't envy Nole...dealing with Nadal in this magically resurrected super-beast mode, is going to cost him.

Look at poor Sock, I bet he's already spent half his tank.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:41 pm

very good commentator on Eurosport. Saying that Nadal goes over time but also that Sock is starting to get used of Nadal's spin. I have stressed that it was extremely difficult to get used to his spin and it takes some to finally being able to time it properly.....and ususally it gets easier as teh match goes on as he gets tired and injects less spin...

..but we are not there yet.

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:45 pm

Tenez wrote:very good commentator on Eurosport. Saying that Nadal goes over time but also that Sock is starting to get used of Nadal's spin. I have stressed that it was extremely difficult to get used to his spin and it takes some to finally being able to time it properly.....and ususally it gets easier as teh match goes on as he gets tired and injects less spin...

..but we are not there yet.
I hope you're right. But for now it seems once again they managed to transform him to a war machine just in time (not watching though so keep those updates coming)

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:46 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:very good commentator on Eurosport. Saying that Nadal goes over time but also that Sock is starting to get used of Nadal's spin. I have stressed that it was extremely difficult to get used to his spin and it takes some to finally being able to time it properly.....and ususally it gets easier as teh match goes on as he gets tired and injects less spin...

..but we are not there yet.
I hope you're right. But for now it seems once again they managed to transform him to a war machine just in time (not watching though so keep those updates coming)
Yes...he often starts all his matches like that. It's part of breaking the spirit of his opponent.

I don't have much hope for Sock...though.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:59 pm

Seeing Nadal bludgeon the ball unnecessarily just shows me he's low on confidence.
He knows he's got Sock under control physically and can afford to be generous with wasting energy.

Seriously, only Nole can stop him here...either Ferrer or Murray will be dispatched in max 4 sets, like last year.

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Post by luvsports! on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:17 pm

Sock being put back in the draw...... 

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:20 pm

11 years and Nadal is still going.....impressive!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:32 pm

Regardless of nadal's form...bit disappointing from Sock as I was more impressed by Chardy's FH than Sock's for sure.

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:59 pm

Nadal TV on BP. Cue meltdown on V2.

Hope BB and LS get out alive! Laugh

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:13 pm

Another one...On BP! 2nd serve...

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:22 pm

legendkillar wrote:Nadal TV on BP. Cue meltdown on V2.

Hope BB and LS get out alive! Laugh
I am missing those wars! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:23 pm

Those extra secs are so crucial for nadal!

he woudl never take the risk of losing a first serve...if it was not.

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:24 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Nadal TV on BP. Cue meltdown on V2.

Hope BB and LS get out alive! Laugh
I am missing those wars! Winking

Winking I know you're a man of unlimited patience when exchanging views with posters, but I would be confident that even you would be reduced to banging your head against a wall with a illogical debate over there!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:26 pm

Nadal is raining sweat. I have always said that a big part of Nadal's stamina relies on bluffing.

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:27 pm

Interestingly on the 2 BPs he was warned on he went over by 6 seconds and this one he went over by 14 seconds! 

Sock sneaks the 3rd set.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:28 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Nadal TV on BP. Cue meltdown on V2.

Hope BB and LS get out alive! Laugh
I am missing those wars! Winking

Winking I know you're a man of unlimited patience when exchanging views with posters, but I would be confident that even you would be reduced to banging your head against a wall with a illogical debate over there!
I'll give it a glimpse as "TheMessi". (you knew that was my pseudo for a short while....didn't you?)

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:28 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal is raining sweat. I have always said that a big part of Nadal's stamina relies on bluffing.

The match he played the part raround after 2 sets he looked like he had been in a sauna!

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:29 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Nadal TV on BP. Cue meltdown on V2.

Hope BB and LS get out alive! Laugh
I am missing those wars! Winking

Winking I know you're a man of unlimited patience when exchanging views with posters, but I would be confident that even you would be reduced to banging your head against a wall with a illogical debate over there!
I'll give it a glimpse as "TheMessi". (you knew that was my pseudo for a short while....didn't you?)

I would dare you to enter the TV debate Winking

I did see over there, but didn't guess it was you. Had me fooled.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:33 pm

Sock making the mistake to cut the points shorts.....but doesn't realise he got Nadal into trouble by making him run!

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Post by luvsports! on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:35 pm

Me after a sesh on the tv thread... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Md0Rl8zvlc

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:41 pm

Laugh

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:45 pm

Just tuned in. What's Sock's first serve percentage? 2%?

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:50 pm

I understand Nadal got 2 TV's? It's not like he now hurries up between the points, does he?

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:51 pm

But what is so complicated to understand? It's a rule! It's very purpose is to make the game of tennis less physical and more of a racquet game which was the purpose at the beginning.

Why not widen the court for Nadal as well, only for Nadal of course? It's the same debate. Having 5 s extra is like having a bigger court to aim at.

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:53 pm

Sock blows 3 bp's. Over to Chartier, this is too annoying

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:54 pm

Tenez wrote:But what is so complicated to understand? It's a rule! It's very purpose is to make the game of tennis less physical and more of a racquet game which was the purpose at the beginning.

Why not widen the court for Nadal as well, only for Nadal of course? It's the same debate. Having 5 s extra is like having a bigger court to aim at.
I think you missed my point

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:55 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:But what is so complicated to understand? It's a rule! It's very purpose is to make the game of tennis less physical and more of a racquet game which was the purpose at the beginning.

Why not widen the court for Nadal as well, only for Nadal of course? It's the same debate. Having 5 s extra is like having a bigger court to aim at.
I think you missed my point
LOL! No you missed mine! It was aimed at the nadal fans of v2! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:57 pm

gallery play wrote:I understand Nadal got 2 TV's? It's not like he now hurries up between the points, does he?
he did a bit towards the end of the 3rd set but you are right....he still plays the same now and of course too a break between the set..went to his changing room for refuelling!

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:58 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:But what is so complicated to understand? It's a rule! It's very purpose is to make the game of tennis less physical and more of a racquet game which was the purpose at the beginning.

Why not widen the court for Nadal as well, only for Nadal of course? It's the same debate. Having 5 s extra is like having a bigger court to aim at.
I think you missed my point
LOL! No you missed mine! It was aimed at the nadal fans of v2! Winking
Big Grin
Gimme a break! just came back from work and trying to catch up on what's happening Winking

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:59 pm

I think Djoko will get him on Weds. Especially knowing that Nadal tires. But Djoko can have some big slumps as well.

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:00 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:I understand Nadal got 2 TV's? It's not like he now hurries up between the points, does he?
he did a bit towards the end of the 3rd set but you are right....he still plays the same now and of course too a break between the set..went to his changing room for refuelling!
yeah, looks like he shows the ref who's really the boss out there...At least, i know he likes to think that

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:02 pm

Tenez wrote:
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Tenez wrote:But what is so complicated to understand? It's a rule! It's very purpose is to make the game of tennis less physical and more of a racquet game which was the purpose at the beginning.

Why not widen the court for Nadal as well, only for Nadal of course? It's the same debate. Having 5 s extra is like having a bigger court to aim at.
I think you missed my point
LOL! No you missed mine! It was aimed at the nadal fans of v2! Winking

The problem you have Tenbo is that the Nadal fans over there think 2 wrongs make a right. Because other players do it and don't get penalised is justification for Nadal to get away with it too. I like Murray, he got TVs and got punished and handled it with humility even when he had a right to feel hard done by on the second. It's not to say that he shouldn't be penalised because others get away with it.

Nadal actually did just get on with it in this match, but the post match interview will be interesting. Winking

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:03 pm

As I was saying Sock tries to shorten the points this what everybody does when starting to feel ahead of Nadal and that is the big mistake. The key is not to go for winners but to make him run.

This is what Djoko does very well.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

legendkillar wrote:..Nadal actually did just get on with it in this match, but the post match interview will be interesting. Winking
Yep...At the end only he will only accept Toni as referee!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

Gasquet is a tragedy!

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